BuffAlone Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: In my opinion he is a guard. Trying to make him a center hurt him, and he played better when the Jets played him at guard. I would have no issue with him being our starting right guard. Sign Morse and Daryl Williams. I will say this, Long is not a zone player, so I hope that this means we are going to more of a power run attack. If that's the case, maybe Miller gets re-signed. He played much better in that scheme than in a zone. Just a thought... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: I was and still am hoping we go for Paradis. This is a good add for competition and depth at least I guess. Unless they brought him in to play G I doubt they go after Paradis, especially because I don’t think Beane is the type to overpay in Free Agency and Paradis will be way over paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: In my opinion he is a guard. Trying to make him a center hurt him, and he played better when the Jets played him at guard. I would have no issue with him being our starting right guard. Sign Morse and Daryl Williams. I will say this, Long is not a zone player, so I hope that this means we are going to more of a power run attack. When I read he doesn't fit Gase's style I thought this might be the case-- glad to hear you say it! New England showed this year that the climate ia favorable for a power running game right now against these smaller, pass-oriented defenses. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, billspro said: Unless they brought him in to play G I doubt they go after Paradis, especially because I don’t think Beane is the type to overpay in Free Agency and Paradis will be way over paid. Yeah true... either way, we need to see some serious attention to the OL, good to see them starting early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Wait, I thought the Bills already have a long snapper... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, blacklabel said: 44 starts in a 53 game career, only ended up a FA due to coaching changes. This will be the end here for Groy. Long and Bodine compete for the starting center gig. No he’s an FA because he was extremely mediocre. He was the one responsible for flinging snap after snap over Darnold’s head. He broke two fingers and Bowles kept him in for some ungodly reason so he’s not necessarily as bad as that stretch of games suggests but still very mediocre. You guys better hope he’s a back up. Good riddance to that guy. 8 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: In my opinion he is a guard. Trying to make him a center hurt him, and he played better when the Jets played him at guard. I would have no issue with him being our starting right guard. Sign Morse and Daryl Williams. I will say this, Long is not a zone player, so I hope that this means we are going to more of a power run attack. Yes he is a zone player lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, One Buffalo said: Yeah true... either way, we need to see some serious attention to the OL, good to see them starting early. I’m hoping that we spend money on an OT and draft another OL in round 1 or 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 This looks like a backup OL signing to me....... More are coming guys.....relax 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Strictly a backup He started all 13 games he played in last year with the Jets. Got hurt and missed the last three. I'd say he's a starter, not a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 This is the definition of "meh" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: No he’s an FA because he was extremely mediocre. He was the one responsible for flinging snap after snap over Darnold’s head. He broke two fingers and Bowles kept him in for some ungodly reason so he’s not necessarily as bad as that stretch of games suggests but still very mediocre. You guys better hope he’s a back up. Good riddance to that guy. Yes he is a zone player lol. Well mediocre is a huge upgrade for our oline. At this point we just need to add some NFL talent to the oline, even if it is only mediocre. Hopefully he will end up as a backup after the draft. I think that is where we are going to address the C position. But at least we have a guy that can play and not get our franchise QB killed. Last year was embarrassing, it was the worst oline I have witnessed. Edited February 12, 2019 by billspro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: No he’s an FA because he was extremely mediocre. He was the one responsible for flinging snap after snap over Darnold’s head. He broke two fingers and Bowles kept him in for some ungodly reason so he’s not necessarily as bad as that stretch of games suggests but still very mediocre. You guys better hope he’s a back up. Good riddance to that guy. Yes he is a zone player lol. We are supposed to GAF what a jets fan says lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Family full of Jets fans. Solid Guard, not so much at Center.... struggles with shotgun snap. Good depth signing, could start at one of the Guard positions. We need to fill 4 positions on the oline, at least this signing gives us some breathing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 gross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I hope i'm wrong but even without financial details - signing him to a 3 year deal doesn't scream tryout or backup to me. Seeing what he made in New York, I doubt he's coming at league minimum. I'm afraid that they did their homework on Paradis and that this says he's not coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, billspro said: Unless they brought him in to play G I doubt they go after Paradis, especially because I don’t think Beane is the type to overpay in Free Agency and Paradis will be way over paid. I would like Paradis as much as the next guy......but lets face facts...Denver will probably resign him. Gots to have back up plans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He was hurt for much of last year. I hope that he is here to fill the Groy role. Let him be the depth guy on the interior. This. My guess is he is being brought in to provide versatile depth as a C/G backup. He is an improvement over Groy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 How much $$$$$$? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 From a 2017 CBS article... Spencer Long At the midseason point, I was very impressed with Spencer Long. After all, he had just come into the starting lineup in Week 3 to strengthen the team’s weakness at center. In our midseason grades, I said the following of Long: When Spencer Long stepped into the starting lineup for the Washington Redskins, everything changed. The team immediately improved their run blocking, but they especially improved their pass blocking. Opposing teams were no longer able to get a ridiculous amount of pressure on Cousins and that really helped the quarterback. Since Long has been in the lineup, Cousins has had the time to improve his decision making and accuracy. Long has been rock solid in all aspects of the game, and it really makes you wonder why the team did not put him in the lineup sooner. Long has also been a versatile player for the Redskins. He has mostly played center, but he has filled in at guard on some snaps, and he has been solid at both positions. Essentially, he is a good quality starting interior lineman who should only improve with more playing time. All of that rings true to the end of the season. Long has continued to play well, though he was slowed down by a concussion at the close of the season. He has earned the right to be the team’s starting center moving forward, and definitely should be a solid player moving forward. Long’s Season Grade: B 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I freely admit I know anything about the oline. Is he good? Because I don’t imagine the Jets cutting a good o linemen or was it just about money? can anyone of you oline guys give me an honest assessment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: We are supposed to GAF what a jets fan says lol Personally, I don’t care what you GAF about lol. If you want insight on the player that was on the Jets last year then there it is. Take it how you want it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: See what the contract details are. That will say a lot Yup. Depends on how much guaranteed money there is to see how invested they are in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I’m hoping he isn’t viewed as some sort of solution to our line issues. Would like to see the dollar amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Personally, I don’t care what you GAF about lol. If you want insight on the player that was on the Jets last year then there it is. Take it how you want it. Sounds like you're just saying he messed up shotgun snaps because of the finger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I hope i'm wrong but even without financial details - signing him to a 3 year deal doesn't scream tryout or backup to me. Seeing what he made in New York, I doubt he's coming at league minimum. I'm afraid that they did their homework on Paradis and that this says he's not coming. May or may not have anything to do with Paradis or any other Center. They may have signed him to replace Groy and compete for a G position with versatility to back up at C. I agree 3 years says starter more than backup, but that’s not too surprising since he’s always been a starter. Edited February 12, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, Bangarang said: I’m hoping he isn’t viewed as some sort of solution to our line issues. Would like to see the dollar amount. I think they like his center/guard versilitlity and the fact that he has NFL experience. This is the new Ryan Groy I think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Don't panic yet folks. When was the last time the Bills had some decent depth on the OL. The panic should only start if Long winds up being the starting C. If he starting at the G's, it is better than what they had, but still this should only be a depth signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, billspro said: Well mediocre is a huge upgrade for our oline. At this point we just need to add some NFL talent to the oline, even if it is only mediocre. Hopefully he will end up as a backup after the draft. I think that is where we are going to address the C position. But at least we have a guy that can play and not get our franchise QB killed. Last year was embarrassing, it was the worst oline I have witnessed. He’s not an awful guard tbh. He moves decently. But huge problems pass protecting at C and not so great at run block. LG is probably where he should be. He’s average there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemfield2622 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: May or may not have anything to do with Paradis or any other Center. They may have signed him to replace Groy and compete for a G position with versatility to back up at C. They have 4 interior lineman either UFA or 1 year away. I'm figuring this is cheap depth signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Personally, I don’t care what you GAF about lol. If you want insight on the player that was on the Jets last year then there it is. Take it how you want it. I will take it that you are on the wrong board and nobody cares what you think.....fair enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I am going to reserve judgement until after I see what our new OL coach can do with him and any other guy the Bills bring in. At least they are not sitting on their hands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: Sounds like you're just saying he messed up shotgun snaps because of the finger Probably tbh. Bowles left him in there for no reason. We had a decent enough back up Center. I don’t expect him to botch snaps when he’s healthy but doesn’t really do much as a Center anyway. Move him to guard and you have a viable back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He was hurt for much of last year. I hope that he is here to fill the Groy role. Let him be the depth guy on the interior. I read it as Glory Hole. Now that's funny. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: May or may not have anything to do with Paradis or any other Center. They may have signed him to replace Groy and compete for a G position with versatility to back up at C. I agree 3 years says starter more than backup, but that’s not too surprising since he’s always been a starter. If the Bills are serious about upgrading the OL, they should be big players for Morse or Paradis, and an OT. If this is their only interior acquisition, then we should have a major problem with this signing. Again, signing Long should NEVER take the Bills out of the mix for the big FA C's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemfield2622 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 3 yrs 13 mil Edited February 12, 2019 by Clemfield2622 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Depth player I would guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 https://riggosrag.com/2018/01/16/spencer-long-critical-free-agent/ Long started for the Skins in 2016 and 2017 before suffering season ending injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Clemfield2622 said: 3 yrs 13 mil That's a bit high for a depth player, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Clemfield2622 said: 3 yrs 13 mil Guessing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, Capco said: That's a bit high for a depth player, isn't it? yes, that"s starter $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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