Da webster guy Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 You guys probably saw the ridiculous scrum on the field after the game. Looked dangerous and completely unnecessary. Once again I have to offer my logic in the absence of a real commissioner, so here goes: No reporters or ANYONE not on a team allowed on the playing field after the game. It will be for players and coaches only. The camera's can still record all the action from the stands as usual, and let these poor athletes get a little while to enjoy themselves and celebrate with their teammates, shake hands with the other team, say a prayer at midfield, whatever. Keep the stupid reporters out of the way and safe, they'll get their time, it's just not immediately after the last second ticks off the clock. There is plenty of time to interview these guys after the melee is over, stay the hell out of the way. It's a dumb a tradition is almost as bad that stupid idea some GM came up with that they will call the college player they're drafting right exactly as they're making the pick so he has to be on the phone during the best minute of his life instead of celebrating with his family. Ridiculous. Brady handled it well, but it sucked for everyone and was hard to watch. Then this little 4 foot 10inch lady finally gets a second to ask her question, and instead of sticking the mic in his face and saying "Hows it feel Tom?" and then shutting her mouth, she launches into this 40 second question about some crap and history and being vindicated. He ignored it because it was stupid and he probably couldn't here it anyway, and went on with the exact thing he would have said if he just handed him the mic. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Brady handled it well, but it sucked for everyone and was hard to watch. Then this little 4 foot 10inch lady finally gets a second to ask her question, and instead of sticking the mic in his face and saying "Hows it feel Tom?" and then shutting her mouth, she launches into this 40 second question about some crap and history and being vindicated. He ignored it because it was stupid and he probably couldn't here it anyway, and went on with the exact thing he would have said if he just handed him the mic. To make matters worse, she screamed the entire time, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Kinda sounds like a movie I saw back in college. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, clearwater cadet said: Kinda sounds like a movie I saw back in college. Human Centipede? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Everything about it was bad. Another ‘win’ for the commissioner (sarcasm). Why CBS had their smallest reporter out there I have no idea...and I agree that the question was beyond amateur. I was waiting for Brady to say he was going to Disneyland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Everything about it was bad. Another ‘win’ for the commissioner (sarcasm). Why CBS had their smallest reporter out there I have no idea...and I agree that the question was beyond amateur. I was waiting for Brady to say he was going to Disneyland! Pretty sure he (and the NFL) had nothing to do with who was put out on the field for interviews. This is how it goes every year after this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Pretty sure he (and the NFL) had nothing to do with who was put out on the field for interviews. This is how it goes every year after this game. The commissioners office has control over everything in these events. Who do you think puts the entire event together? The Homecoming Dance committee? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, SoCal Deek said: The commissioners office has control over everything in these events. Who do you think puts the entire event together? The Homecoming Dance committee? The networks. They are paying for it. Nothing was different on the field this time as far as access for the press was concerned. Exactly what part of the scene that you describe was directly the result of decisions made by Roger Goodell for this game in particular. Be specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 My daughter and I were theo only ones awake at that point. Why!? Is it really nessassary to be the first person there to get the answer to how do you feel about this win? My daughter said, "shouldnt they give them a second to allow congratulations by the other players"? I think they do it is rude and doesn't allow the oppertunity for the players to be good showers of sportmanship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCNC Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I turned TV off when clock hit 00:00. Did not see it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Tracey wolfson. A fine piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 the whole thing was badly managed to the point of being unsafe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Da webster guy said: You guys probably saw the ridiculous scrum on the field after the game. Looked dangerous and completely unnecessary. Agree with you. It was ridiculous that players couldn't enjoy the victory before being decended upon by the horde of locusts media. With so much 'media' today, it's devolved from mosh pit to mob to dangerous situation. The only media allowed on the field in that situation should be the network broadcast personnel. Everyone else should have to wait until the players step off the field. Edited February 5, 2019 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Maybe I'm old but one of the reasons I enjoy football is that after 60 mins of beating the crap out of each other at the end of the game these guys shake hands and display true sportsmanship. Last night made a mockery of this fine tradition and having 100 paparazzi style Aholes on the field made it hard for the players to find each other at all. It was a joke! Edited February 5, 2019 by Livinginthepast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Da webster guy said: You guys probably saw the ridiculous scrum on the field after the game. Looked dangerous and completely unnecessary. Once again I have to offer my logic in the absence of a real commissioner, so here goes: No reporters or ANYONE not on a team allowed on the playing field after the game. It will be for players and coaches only. The camera's can still record all the action from the stands as usual, and let these poor athletes get a little while to enjoy themselves and celebrate with their teammates, shake hands with the other team, say a prayer at midfield, whatever. Keep the stupid reporters out of the way and safe, they'll get their time, it's just not immediately after the last second ticks off the clock. There is plenty of time to interview these guys after the melee is over, stay the hell out of the way. It's a dumb a tradition is almost as bad that stupid idea some GM came up with that they will call the college player they're drafting right exactly as they're making the pick so he has to be on the phone during the best minute of his life instead of celebrating with his family. Ridiculous. Brady handled it well, but it sucked for everyone and was hard to watch. Then this little 4 foot 10inch lady finally gets a second to ask her question, and instead of sticking the mic in his face and saying "Hows it feel Tom?" and then shutting her mouth, she launches into this 40 second question about some crap and history and being vindicated. He ignored it because it was stupid and he probably couldn't here it anyway, and went on with the exact thing he would have said if he just handed him the mic. You watched the “ after affair” Turned it Off. Screw Brady !!!! Screw the PATRIOTS!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: The commissioners office has control over everything in these events. Who do you think puts the entire event together? The Homecoming Dance committee? Yes, including the holding call on Sullivan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Human Centipede? The message was the same. "eat ***** and die" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: The networks. They are paying for it. Nothing was different on the field this time as far as access for the press was concerned. Exactly what part of the scene that you describe was directly the result of decisions made by Roger Goodell for this game in particular. Be specific. The networks do call a lot of the shots. Certainly they work with the Commissioner's office but they, as those who cough up the dough, have significant say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Totally agree. Like most other sporting events, they should only allow one reporter and camera, from the network covering the game, on the field immediately after the game. It was so bad that for the first time in my life I actually had a smidgen of sympathy for Tom Brady. Let the guys celebrate with their teammates, let the opposing team's players congratulate him (because those players want to get off that field fast). Those photographers have phenomenal zoom lenses, just look at some of the amazing photos taken in game. They do not need to be two inches in front of Brady's face. If they all stood back, they could all get some nice shots. In that scrum, how many good pictures could they actually get? Half of them probably don't even have Brady in the frame. And wouldn't your readers rather have a nice shot of the players hugging and celebrating with each other, rather than probably an annoyed looking Brady surrounded by a bunch of other photographers? It makes no sense. And if you have a mic, what are you going to get but some cliché answer to how he feels that everyone hears anyway because it is being broadcast on CBS. There is no scoop there. You'll get better quotes from him when you are actually able to ask specific questions and he is in a more reflective mood, post the locker room celebration. I cannot think of any reason or benefit for that type of media scrum. Edited February 5, 2019 by folz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, stuvian said: the whole thing was badly managed to the point of being unsafe I had the same thought; crap like this will continue until something happens. Someone will get knocked over and hurt or a fight will break out with the pushing and shoving, and then the rule will change to something more sensible. I stuck around just long enough to see the melee and thought it was entertaining so I continued to watch until things calmed down. Turned channel at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just read an article praising Tracy Wolfson for handling it like a pro and blaming it on security. You can argue security let it get out of hand or can argue security was lettign the players enjoy their moment without being bothered by reporters. I'll go with the 2nd one! Kind of reminded me of the Peter Rose Jim Grey interview And to the poster who commented she shouted the entire time, that's the only voice I've ever heard from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The networks. They are paying for it. Nothing was different on the field this time as far as access for the press was concerned. Exactly what part of the scene that you describe was directly the result of decisions made by Roger Goodell for this game in particular. Be specific. How many press passes to grant and what sideline security to hire to enforce policy? they opted for a free for all instead of select access Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Just read an article praising Tracy Wolfson for handling it like a pro and blaming it on security. You can argue security let it get out of hand or can argue security was lettign the players enjoy their moment without being bothered by reporters. I'll go with the 2nd one! Kind of reminded me of the Peter Rose Jim Grey interview And to the poster who commented she shouted the entire time, that's the only voice I've ever heard from her. The media praising the media??? You don’t say!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, fansince88 said: My daughter and I were theo only ones awake at that point. Why!? Is it really nessassary to be the first person there to get the answer to how do you feel about this win? My daughter said, "shouldnt they give them a second to allow congratulations by the other players"? I think they do it is rude and doesn't allow the oppertunity for the players to be good showers of sportmanship I mentioned it in the game thread but it took so much of the best of humanity out of an incredible human moment and the worst was fully on display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The networks. They are paying for it. Nothing was different on the field this time as far as access for the press was concerned. Exactly what part of the scene that you describe was directly the result of decisions made by Roger Goodell for this game in particular. Be specific. Im saying nfl rule, no media on the field after a game. Set up your cameras and interview stuff on the sidelines or wherever. Its a simple fix. Players come to you and keep the field off limits. It was out of hand. Brady just capped a superbowl and 90 seconds later he's yelling at reporters to stop pushing etc. Its so stupid. The point of this thread is to fix it, NFL, networks, whoever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Haslett_Stomp said: Brady handled it well, but it sucked for everyone and was hard to watch. Then this little 4 foot 10inch lady finally gets a second to ask her question, and instead of sticking the mic in his face and saying "Hows it feel Tom?" and then shutting her mouth, she launches into this 40 second question about some crap and history and being vindicated. He ignored it because it was stupid and he probably couldn't here it anyway, and went on with the exact thing he would have said if he just handed him the mic. To make matters worse, she screamed the entire time, Poor guy. Nevertheless, he persisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: How many press passes to grant and what sideline security to hire to enforce policy? they opted for a free for all instead of select access That's on the stadium staff. You've been to games. NFL doesn't deal with that. It's event staff. 1 hour ago, Da webster guy said: Im saying nfl rule, no media on the field after a game. Set up your cameras and interview stuff on the sidelines or wherever. Its a simple fix. Players come to you and keep the field off limits. It was out of hand. Brady just capped a superbowl and 90 seconds later he's yelling at reporters to stop pushing etc. Its so stupid. The point of this thread is to fix it, NFL, networks, whoever. As above. The stadium staff handles security. The media passes are what they have been. No reason to believe suddenly, for this one SB, thee was a gigantic increase in on field press passes given out. It was just the media behaving poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: That's on the stadium staff. You've been to games. NFL doesn't deal with that. It's event staff. As above. The stadium staff handles security. The media passes are what they have been. No reason to believe suddenly, for this one SB, thee was a gigantic increase in on field press passes given out. It was just the media behaving poorly. And who dictates the rules to the event staff? I have been to games and have worked in (non nfl) events and logistics. There’s no way the nfl hasn’t set very explicit guidelines for super bowl press and security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 14 hours ago, KCNC said: I turned TV off when clock hit 00:00. Did not see it. I turned it off when the last FG was kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 The post-game was a massive clusterfunk. Didn't Wolfson actually get knocked down at one point? And I couldn't understand for the life of me why they kept her mic live with all that commotion going on. Cue the audio back to Nantz and Romo or anyone else and let them babble until things cleared out enough for them to get a minute with Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: And who dictates the rules to the event staff? I have been to games and have worked in (non nfl) events and logistics. There’s no way the nfl hasn’t set very explicit guidelines for super bowl press and security. If they do, then what would lead you to believe that they changed their previous post SB on field press procedures for this one SB that resulted in the scene we saw? I think it was just individuals in the press behaving more aggressively. It certainly didn't look like anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: If they do, then what would lead you to believe that they changed their previous post SB on field press procedures for this one SB that resulted in the scene we saw? I think it was just individuals in the press behaving more aggressively. It certainly didn't look like anything else. I didn’t say they changed it. I did imply that they need to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 IMO it is an extremely simple fix. No media access except for 2 on field reporters and their camera man. The 2 on field reporters are chosen by the network that is airing the game. Have a chained off section around the field for still cameramen, they are free to move about the perimeter. Each team is also allowed 2 of their own photographers for stills. Every other member of the media can wait in the media room for the athletes to change and shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I didn’t say they changed it. I did imply that they need to change it. Ok. Sorry man. Others were blaming "Goodell" for that scrum. Looked like press gone wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: IMO it is an extremely simple fix. No media access except for 2 on field reporters and their camera man. The 2 on field reporters are chosen by the network that is airing the game. Have a chained off section around the field for still cameramen, they are free to move about the perimeter. Each team is also allowed 2 of their own photographers for stills. Every other member of the media can wait in the media room for the athletes to change and shower. Good luck with that. It's the Super Bowl and the celebration, trophy presentation happens on the field, not the locker room after the game. And SB or not, the bolded part never happens after any game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Ok. Sorry man. Others were blaming "Goodell" for that scrum. Looked like press gone wild. I mean, I do blame him for not having a smarter rule already. Just because it’s only clumsy in the past doesn’t mean they shouldn’t foresee the problem getting worse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Good luck with that. It's the Super Bowl and the celebration, trophy presentation happens on the field, not the locker room after the game. And SB or not, the bolded part never happens after any game... Well, the network can have their two designated reporters. It’s not like the media has a right to go wherever they want. This is the NFL’s property, the media will go where they are told or they won’t be invited on said property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Bills2ref said: Well, the network can have their two designated reporters. It’s not like the media has a right to go wherever they want. This is the NFL’s property, the media will go where they are told or they won’t be invited on said property. Why on earth would any pro sports league virtually eliminate 98% of the press from covering their championship game like that? It will never happen for obvious reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Why on earth would any pro sports league virtually eliminate 98% of the press from covering their championship game like that? It will never happen for obvious reasons. It would easily still be covered just as much. How many people care about some still photo a reporter got on the sideline? People watch the game on TV. I don’t care if some obscure news station got a snippet of an interview and I would imagine most people are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: It would easily still be covered just as much. How many people care about some still photo a reporter got on the sideline? People watch the game on TV. I don’t care if some obscure news station got a snippet of an interview and I would imagine most people are the same. Youre missing the point. There is absolutely no way the NFL would televise a post super bowl field empty except for players and 2 camera people. They WANT the mob scene. It’s part of the theater. If you think they would ever consider clearing the field in the way yiu describe, then you have never understood the NFL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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