TC in St. Louis Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Wade's defense was outstanding. However, Belichick's was better. If the Rams had any offense at all, they might have won the game. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 That was an impressive showing for his defense. Sucks the offense couldn’t compete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said: Wade's defense was outstanding. However, Belichick's was better. If the Rams had any offense at all, they might have won the game. At least two Rams TDs dropped, but Pats defense as always this time of year was brutal and suffocating 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: At least two Rams TDs dropped, but Pats defense as always this time of year was brutal and suffocating The 1st td attempt to Cooks in the back of the end zone waVall Goffs fault. Way to late getting it off. The 2nd one to Cooks was Gilmore's arm bar ignored. McVay and his offense were terrible. Wade did his job. Edited February 4, 2019 by LABILLBACKER 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 What a shame. Wasted effort by Wade's D, which for most of the year was getting put down while the Rams' offense got all the praise. When it mattered most, who showed up and who didnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Wade's D definitely kept the Rams in it until late, when it was more of an issue with being gassed up front IMHO, than scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said: Wade's defense was outstanding. However, Belichick's was better. If the Rams had any offense at all, they might have won the game. You mean if Brandin Cooks didn't drop a perfectly thrown ball into his arms in the endzone they might have won the game? Goff threw an interception on what looked like the exact same route concept the very next play. All in all, New England dominated the game, if not from the scoreboard perspective, from an on field perspective...the Rams looked like a Bills offense led by "bad Tyrod" for most of the night. Edited February 4, 2019 by matter2003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 NE was on the field for nearly 7 minutes more than LA. 22 first downs. 407 yards. 16 catches between Edelman and Gronk on 19 targets. Michel and Burkhead had 137 yards on 25 carries. Rams offense got smoked, but Wade's D struggled to get off the field from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: At least two Rams TDs dropped, but Pats defense as always this time of year was brutal and suffocating Yeah, that Pats defense against the Eagles last year was stifling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: The 1st td attempt to Cooks in the back of the end zone waVall Goffs fault. Way to late getting it off. The 2nd one to Cooks was Gilmore's arm bar ignored. McVay and his offense were terrible. Wade did his job. ..."The Ageless Wonder" at 71 still has "IT".......remarkable as was Lebeau coaching until 80.......really wanted Wade to get his ring.................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Lowest winning score ever ... hard to fault that effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: NE was on the field for nearly 7 minutes more than LA. 22 first downs. 407 yards. 16 catches between Edelman and Gronk on 19 targets. Michel and Burkhead had 137 yards on 25 carries. Rams offense got smoked, but Wade's D struggled to get off the field from the start. That is a pretty poor showing for what that offense was. In the modern NFL its all about keeping teams out of the end zone. The defense did its job and then some. It was the offenses fault the TOP was so skewed, they couldn't put any drives together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: That is a pretty poor showing for what that offense was. In the modern NFL its all about keeping teams out of the end zone. The defense did its job and then some. It was the offenses fault the TOP was so skewed, they couldn't put any drives together. The D got pushed around from the first Q. NE had 13 drives to LA's12. NE used up that D, not letting them off the field. Wore them down by the end. As Romo pointed out, on their scoring drive, NE ran the same play 3 times in a row, with Brady going to 3 different receivers. Couldn't stop them despite the same look 3 times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..."The Ageless Wonder" at 71 still has "IT".......remarkable as was Lebeau coaching until 80.......really wanted Wade to get his ring.................... He won one with the broncos. When they beat the panthers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The D got pushed around from the first Q. NE had 13 drives to LA's12. NE used up that D, not letting them off the field. Wore them down by the end. As Romo pointed out, on their scoring drive, NE ran the same play 3 times in a row, with Brady going to 3 different receivers. Couldn't stop them despite the same look 3 times. That is how every game works. The other team always gets the ball back at the end of the drive. That was not a great drive. But the best defenses in the league give up drives. That is not an indictment of how the defense played as a whole. The D did not get pushed around. Yards are going to be given up. The Pats have been running long, sustained scoring drives against every team they have come up against in the playoffs. The fact that they couldn't complete (or even get into field goal range) consistently against the Rams is a testament to how good the defense played. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I was really disappointed that Wade didn't make any adjustments on Edelman. He continued to allow Edelman to stay open in the short zone without spying him. Brady's arm isn't what it used to be, make him throw downfield more & it's a different ballgame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The D got pushed around from the first Q. NE had 13 drives to LA's12. NE used up that D, not letting them off the field. Wore them down by the end. As Romo pointed out, on their scoring drive, NE ran the same play 3 times in a row, with Brady going to 3 different receivers. Couldn't stop them despite the same look 3 times. That's one where you gotta wonder if Wade didn't want a time out to reset his guys and McVay wanted to save 'em. Overall, I think you're right, they held up pretty stout given the big TOP disparity but in the end they wore down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's one where you gotta wonder if Wade didn't want a time out to reset his guys and McVay wanted to save 'em. Overall, I think you're right, they held up pretty stout given the big TOP disparity but in the end they wore down. His original point was that the Rams defense didn't play well this game. That seems like a wild take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: That is how every game works. The other team always gets the ball back at the end of the drive. That was not a great drive. But the best defenses in the league give up drives. That is not an indictment of how the defense played as a whole. The D did not get pushed around. Yards are going to be given up. The Pats have been running long, sustained scoring drives against every team they have come up against in the playoffs. The fact that they couldn't complete (or even get into field goal range) consistently against the Rams is a testament to how good the defense played. They made 2 FGs, missed one and were in FG range another time but went for a 4th and 1 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: The 1st td attempt to Cooks in the back of the end zone waVall Goffs fault. Way to late getting it off. The 2nd one to Cooks was Gilmore's arm bar ignored. McVay and his offense were terrible. Wade did his job. If the Pats had to win at least I won money on that first Cooks drop in the endzone. Had Sony michel scoring the 1st td across 3 different books. Ended up 2.6k thanks to that drop ball. Although I still rather have lost money than to see the Pats win. However, with 2 weeks to game plan and not buying into Goff felt it was foregone conclusion anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, 947 said: I was really disappointed that Wade didn't make any adjustments on Edelman. He continued to allow Edelman to stay open in the short zone without spying him. Brady's arm isn't what it used to be, make him throw downfield more & it's a different ballgame. Dude, Wade was trying to cover Edelman. Edelman was juking defenders out of their jocks. Triple him up and you leave someone else open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's one where you gotta wonder if Wade didn't want a time out to reset his guys and McVay wanted to save 'em. Overall, I think you're right, they held up pretty stout given the big TOP disparity but in the end they wore down. Is MvVay from the Andy Reid coaching shrub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: They made 2 FGs, missed one and were in FG range another time but went for a 4th and 1 instead. That is still not evidence the defense played bad. That is what good defenses do...especially in the "era of offense" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Dude, Wade was trying to cover Edelman. Edelman was juking defenders out of their jocks. Triple him up and you leave someone else open. Edelman ruined Talib . Bilateral air casts... Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: That is still not evidence the defense played bad. That is what good defenses do...especially in the "era of offense" They have to get off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: His original point was that the Rams defense didn't play well this game. That seems like a wild take. Oh, he's wrong then. The Rams D did not get pushed around despite being on the field way too much. Their O had what, One first down? two? in the entire first half? That's a stunning display of offensive impotence, but the Rams D held tough. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Edelman ruined Talib . Bilateral air casts... They have to get off the field. No defense is history gets 3 and outs on every drive. They literally did get off the field. 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, he's wrong then. The Rams D did not get pushed around despite being on the field way too much. Their O had what, One first down? two? in the entire first half? That's a stunning display of offensive impotence, but the Rams D held tough. I think he expects that every drive should end in a 3 and out or the defense is getting pushed around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: The 1st td attempt to Cooks in the back of the end zone waVall Goffs fault. Way to late getting it off. The 2nd one to Cooks was Gilmore's arm bar ignored. McVay and his offense were terrible. Wade did his job. Still. Cooks should come down with it both times. On first It was as much Goff’s fault as cooks. Same as dolphins clay Allen play more or less. On second, NFL WRs need to make those contested catches. My my conclusion is is Edelman was mvp, cooks was LVP These nfl WRs that wait for the ball instead of coming to it and attacking it perplex me. Yes Wade did a good job, Billy just did a better one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: No defense is history gets 3 and outs on every drive. They literally did get off the field. Yeah, that's not what we are talking about. It's not even worth mentioning actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Yeah, that's not what we are talking about. It's not even worth mentioning actually. But thats the standard you have created for yourself. I mean, you are dissatisfied with the Pats being held to FOUR field goal attempts and a touchdown. That is a stellar outing for any defense in the modern NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Dr. K said: Yeah, that Pats defense against the Eagles last year was stifling. Sure there are some exceptions but the pattern is as consistent as it gets in sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Wade did a great job. but because the Rams offense was so abysmal, his D was on the field far too long. McVay really let him down with poor play calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Dude, Wade was trying to cover Edelman. Edelman was juking defenders out of their jocks. Triple him up and you leave someone else open. NRC always did a decent job manned up on him in Buffalo. That’s what I expected of wade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, 947 said: I was really disappointed that Wade didn't make any adjustments on Edelman. He continued to allow Edelman to stay open in the short zone without spying him. Brady's arm isn't what it used to be, make him throw downfield more & it's a different ballgame. there is no way to cover Edelman's routes, it's been years of this what is scary is that they are scripted, because Brady doesn't throw to the left when his Brownian Motion jukes fade to the right and you can't triple-team him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I could be wrong as I am going off the top of my head, but isn't this the lowest number of points given up in a losing effort? I think the next closest is the Skins with 14 against Miami and then the Cowboys, 16, against the Coltss in SB 5...Colts for that matter against the Jets in SB III, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Rams defense played very well. That DL was setting up shop in the Pats' backfield from the start. The only thing they weren't able to do was shorten more of those NE drives. They did more than enough to give their team a chance to win. All the blame goes on the offense for not adjusting and making too many mistakes. On the one drive where they looked like they were gonna maybe tie it up, Goff gets rattled way too easy and tosses up a wobbler that Gilmore comes down with. Goff was uncomfortable all night and McVay did him no favors by keeping Gurley on the sidelines. McVay has already owned the loss, as he should, he was completely dismantled and out-coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: But thats the standard you have created for yourself. I mean, you are dissatisfied with the Pats being held to FOUR field goal attempts and a touchdown. That is a stellar outing for any defense in the modern NFL. It's not at all. I'm saying that the Rams D wasn't that great last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It's not at all. I'm saying that the Rams D wasn't that great last night. it was a good game, the better prepped and executing team won, as usual, intangibles didn't drag them down not the best D I've seen in my 47 or so watched ones, but a good effort to hold Brady to only 13 points 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: At least two Rams TDs dropped, but Pats defense as always this time of year was brutal and suffocating Suffocating? Yes and no. There was good coverage but I saw a young QB (and team) who looked tentative and in over their heads. As mentioned there was at least 1 dropped TD . I also saw Goff waiting to see his guys open at times, thus allowing the DB to make the play. Coaching??? A hand off on 3-22 in the 4 th with about 10 minutes left? SERIOUSLY??? I know I’m not the only one who saw this Coming. You shouldn’t play to not lose in the SB. The Rams did...... and lost in the Worst SB I’ve seen. Also, can ANY team learn to play Edelman “ man to zone” so when he runs that effing pick play the nearest DB jumps the route?! Edited February 4, 2019 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, 947 said: I was really disappointed that Wade didn't make any adjustments on Edelman. He continued to allow Edelman to stay open in the short zone without spying him. Brady's arm isn't what it used to be, make him throw downfield more & it's a different ballgame. Did you see Edelman's moves? Unbelievable. I'm not sure how you cover that guy. I thought they'd put Barron on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Suffocating? Yes and no. There was good coverage but I saw a young QB (and team) who looked tentative and in over their heads. As mentioned there was at least 1 dropped TD . I also saw Goff waiting to see his guys open at times, thus allowing the DB to make the play. Coaching??? A hand off on 3-22 in the 4 th with about 10 minutes left? SERIOUSLY??? I know I’m not the only one who saw this Coming. You shouldn’t play to not lose in the SB. The Rams did...... and lost in the Worst SB I’ve seen. Pats D came hard at him and he flinched I have never seen a hit like Van Noy delivered open field, not a QB going down in that kind of posture before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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