Jussie Smallette (Alleged) Self Inflicted Hoax Assault

[shrader]

2 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

Anyway, getting back to Smallette, looks like the idiot got the 15 minutes of famed he pined for, and then some.

 

He may be facing a felony conviction and 3 years in prison for filing a false report.

 

Now, if he truly did not stage the entire thing, and all he had to do to prove his innocence was let the police check out his cell phone, why won’t he do that?

 

What a freakin ‘ moron!

 

Oh well, he got what he wanted - before his act of blatant stupidity, I never heard of him, now, everyone has.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see much of this ultimately fall onto his manager.  Being there in person that night doesn't look so great.  What I'd love to know though is how anyone who was in the know on this plan would think it was a good idea to be doing tv interviews (or was it just one with Good Morning America).  You're just begging for people to tear apart your story, giving the police more to work with as well.

[ExiledInIllinois]

9 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see much of this ultimately fall onto his manager.  Being there in person that night doesn't look so great.  What I'd love to know though is how anyone who was in the know on this plan would think it was a good idea to be doing tv interviews (or was it just one with Good Morning America).  You're just begging for people to tear apart your story, giving the police more to work with as well.

Because:

 

1. People are absurd.

 

2. [NOT a conspiracy nut]...But if someone, entity really wanted to foul things up... Just create the absurd and have it drop on someone, something.  I mean... Everything is very asymmetrical now... Who knows WTF to believe anymore. Create a clustereff... Anarchy.

 

I lean #1... But #2 is possible.

Edited February 18, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois

[The Senator]

11 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see much of this ultimately fall onto his manager.  Being there in person that night doesn't look so great.  What I'd love to know though is how anyone who was in the know on this plan would think it was a good idea to be doing tv interviews (or was it just one with Good Morning America).  You're just begging for people to tear apart your story, giving the police more to work with as well.

 

I just wish, when the a-hole dropped the f-bomb on-air, that Robin Roberts had the stones to say, “I don’t believe a word of your f**king bullsh*t...no one does!”

 

That would have been great.

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[DC Tom]

10 hours ago, GG said:

 

These aren’t your thoughts.  You’re just parroting a WaPo editorial I read today

 

Yes, when exercising my "What's it like to think like a modern American Jacobin" gedankenexperiment, I could write editorials for the Post.

 

But in even in my most drunken fever-dreams, I never could have come up with CNN's "This hoax is being weaponized by those who doubt it was a hate crime."  Much less their "Smollett's story must be taken seriously, not literally."

[Cripple Creek]

1 hour ago, Nanker said:

I hope whoever committed this crime gets prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. 

This

[GG]

16 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

Much less their "Smollett's story must be taken seriously, not literally."

 

Because it's a proven fact that progressives only speak in metaphors, while conservatives are always literal

[/dev/null]

1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

How much resources, $$$ wasted on this Shi...Show?  Bill them the hours.  /smh

Have you seen the murder rate in Chicago?  This sh*tshow diverted resources away from the CPD that should have been used for Chicago's many legitimate problems

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Nothing to see here... 

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/430023-senate-passes-bill-to-make-lynching-a-federal-crime?amp

 

Who sponsored this bill? 

 

Nothing to see here.

[bbb]

9 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

No.  I figured you'd misread what I wrote.  It's easy to do.  ?   Oh, there is something, it's just not easily exposed the way you want it to be. The right paralyzed his presidency and impeded a more broad racial agenda. What was accomplished, then was promptly undone after 2016.

 

So nothing but something in the ether.  OK

 

4 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

The Birther Movement.

 

Obstruct and just say: "No."

 

Basically undoing by Executive Order things he did... Okay, even if that was by Executive Order also.

 

Anything else?

 

So, your attempt to come up with something somebody can see shows nothing to be racial. 

[row_33]

13 hours ago, bbb said:

 

 

 

I keep hearing this type of thing.  What did the right do in response to Obama being black?

 

Nothing at all...  but the left makes themselves feel better over the hoaxes and fake news to scream that something happened 

[bbb]

4 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Nothing at all...  but the left makes themselves feel better over the hoaxes and fake news to scream that something happened 

 

Something happened - if you can't see it, it's your fault.  LOL

[row_33]

1 minute ago, bbb said:

 

Something happened - if you can't see it, it's your fault.  LOL

 

The left claims holiness and when you point out their flaws they yell the other side did it, so they are still holy

 

I can only put up with this kind of “mind” if it’s from an interesting date 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jauronimo]

14 hours ago, GG said:

 

These aren’t your thoughts.  You’re just parroting a WaPo editorial I read today

How dare you marginalize the feelings that might be felt by Tom in the event that a man were actually attacked in the way that Jussie Smallette allegedly WAS attacked in a way that it is entirely possible and perhaps even plausible that he could have been attacked?!?!?! 

[row_33]

I guess I have to look to other accomplished people, and not entertainers, for truth and moraltiy

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

5 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

 

Exactly.  As I just stated.  Why are guys like @bbb having such a hard time.  Sure things aren't out in open... The racism is underground, incideous.

 

Funny anecdote:

 

Literally... My supervisor at work (I am Fed) had Trump's picture in hand on Inauguration Day and the second Trump's hand went on Bible, he ordered Obama's picture to be taken down.  Now I have been around Federal offices for 30 years.  Replaced 4 Presidents on the wall... I have never seen that much venom towards a President.  Of course as Fed workers, we are not the fastest... But why the change now with picture?  LMAO... Why?  Because there was a Black Man on the wall above the chain of of command. In past, it took some time to get the photos out.  This time, the transition team had it all done  and ready... LoL...

 

I mean... It's not a big deal... But really?  Tell us how you really feel?

The head Birther is now POTUS.

 

Yes... When one is purposely evicerating a legacy... Tell us how you really feel?

A couple quick follow ups on you work story:

 

1. Was the same supervisor in place for the 30 years you've been there, thus presiding over the previous 4 portrait changes? 

2. Did he state that he was changing the portrait because BO was the new Commander in Chief? 

3.  Is it possible he was a Trump so thoroughly disgusted with 8 years of Obama apology tours, tearing down the police force, playing racial politics, sending boatloads of cash to terrorists in foreign camps, leaving Americans to die in Libya among other things (the charicature of the average Trump supporter) and so on that once it was appropriate to flip the script, he simply flipped the script at the time the script should always be flipped

4.  If not, how did you come to surmise it was a racial issue? 

 

Anyway, my point remains the same.  Politics are politics, and someone always hates someone else.  It's not subtle or hidden, or whatever,  it just is.  Speaking of that btw, you mentioned the birther issue.  In the world of American politics, where pretty much anything you can say, do, or imply your opponent did--from mysogyny to homophobia to dogs on cars to not paying taxes to sitting in the church of an anti-American bigot and so on...is it fair to say that djt pulled off a master-stroke of ingenuity when asking if BO was actually born in this country?  It's hard to argue it hurt him at the ballot box.  

 

 

[row_33]

18 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

A couple quick follow ups on you work story:

 

1. Was the same supervisor in place for the 30 years you've been there, thus presiding over the previous 4 portrait changes? 

2. Did he state that he was changing the portrait because BO was the new Commander in Chief? 

3.  Is it possible he was a Trump so thoroughly disgusted with 8 years of Obama apology tours, tearing down the police force, playing racial politics, sending boatloads of cash to terrorists in foreign camps, leaving Americans to die in Libya among other things (the charicature of the average Trump supporter) and so on that once it was appropriate to flip the script, he simply flipped the script at the time the script should always be flipped

4.  If not, how did you come to surmise it was a racial issue? 

 

Anyway, my point remains the same.  Politics are politics, and someone always hates someone else.  It's not subtle or hidden, or whatever,  it just is.  Speaking of that btw, you mentioned the birther issue.  In the world of American politics, where pretty much anything you can say, do, or imply your opponent did--from mysogyny to homophobia to dogs on cars to not paying taxes to sitting in the church of an anti-American bigot and so on...is it fair to say that djt pulled off a master-stroke of ingenuity when asking if BO was actually born in this country?  It's hard to argue it hurt him at the ballot box.  

 

 

 

Its different when 99.9 percent of the media is full scale bathed in blind hatred of an elected government and does nothing but complain and raise resentment 24/7

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

8 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Its different when 99.9 percent of the media is full scale bathed in blind hatred of an elected government and does nothing but complain and raise resentment 24/7

 

 

that is fair imo.  i made that same  point in the post before the one you replied to.  you just used less words.  ?

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[/dev/null]

you know this sh*t went south fast when Al Sharpton is condemning Smollett

Edited February 18, 2019 by /dev/null

[unbillievable]

Hollywood response to this case....

 

Day 1: Those racists! burn it all down! This is what happens in Trump's America! #JusticeforJussie

 

Day 20: Everybody calm down. Let's wait for all the facts to come out. Jussie might still be telling the truth. #IstandWithJussie

[The Senator]

25 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

you know this sh*t went south fast when Al Sharpton is condemning Smollett

 

Clearly, Rev. Al does not want another ‘Tawana Brawley’ situation on his rap sheet...

 

https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/18/accountability-al-sharpton-flips-smollett/

 

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[\GoBillsInDallas/]

I'm amazed that this thread is still on OTW and has not been moved to PPP.

[The Senator]

 

Yes, I was thinking the same.  This thread started out being about Julie Smallette -  then, by the time I got back, had devolved into a left vs right, CNN vs FOX, anti-Trump diatribe.

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[Teddy KGB]

5 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

Yes, I was thinking the same.  This thread started out being about Julie Smallette -  then, by the time I got back, had devolved into a left vs right, CNN vs FOX, anti-Trump diatribe.

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Its been that since MAGA noose ! 

[bbb]

16 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

Yes, I was thinking the same.  This thread started out being about Julie Smallette -  then, by the time I got back, had devolved into a left vs right, CNN vs FOX, anti-Trump diatribe.

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You don't see that this what it was from the jump?

[LikeIGiveADarn]

43 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

I'm amazed that this thread is still on OTW and has not been moved to PPP.

 

Not really much to do with politics when everyone thinks the guy's an idiot.

[Deranged Rhino]

(more to this thread if you click)

 

[The Senator]

44 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said:

 

Not really much to do with politics when everyone thinks the guy's an idiot.

 

Now I’m really confused.

 

Which guy does everyone think is an idiot?

 

Trump or Smallette?

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Edited February 18, 2019 by The Senator

[/dev/null]

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/18/jussie-smollet-motive-staged-attack/

 

anyone else see the irony of gay guys shopping at a store called The Crafty Beaver?

[section122]

2 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

Its different when 99.9 percent of the media is full scale bathed in blind hatred of an elected government and does nothing but complain and raise resentment 24/7

 

 

 

I did some looking into coverage as slanted coverage has grabbed my attention since the 16 POTUS election where every major media outlet showed that they were biased and I came across something interesting:

 

Trump coverage is more negative than Obama  

 

I think we all have noticed that but here is the something interesting.  Trump coverage is much more negative than Bush or Clinton too.  Perhaps Trump himself has made many more enemies in the media?  He has been a public figure much longer than any of the other 3 guys.  Given his "personality" I could see him grating the wrong people and leading to the negative coverage without it being a left vs right thing.

 

It boils down to this (and this thread is no exception) it is easier to say someone that disagrees with you is stupid than to listen to their point.  It is easier to paint with a broad stroke and claim everyone on either side is this or that.  It is easier to get your news from facebook or twitter than to actually do research.  People want soundbites that match up with their worldview.  Very few people are interested in personal growth and dismiss any opinion that doesn't align with theirs as libtard or snowflake or nazi or whatever insult they choose.

 

Reality is the government is so large most of us would have no idea where to even begin leading it.  Decisions that effect 330 million people and sometimes 7 billion people are unfathomable choices.  That doesn't stop people from proclaiming entire ideaologies as stupid because of one point of contention.  Trump isn't infallible, Obama wasn't infallible, neither Bush nor Clinton before them.  We want to pretend though our particular party is the right one when reality is that it is just a bunch of millionaire/billionaires taking care of themselves no matter the party affiliation.  People don't care about what is best for America they care what is best for themselves which is why the country is failing.  We are a long way from "ask not what your country can do for you" and that speech was made when segregation was still legal!  This country will progress when people stop talking dem vs republican and start talking point by point.  We aren't beholden to voting a certain way if we disagree with a topic.  We don't have to believe an ideology because most of our beliefs fall on one side or the other.  We can make up our own mind.  The only stupid people are the ones who fall entirely in line with their party without thinking for themselves.  Unfortunately at this point most people in the country fall into that category.

 

I rambled sorry...

[The Senator]

 

Enough, already - I don’t want to read, hear, or watch anything about Julie Smallette ever again.

 

She’ll get all the attention she craves in Joliette.

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[LikeIGiveADarn]

1 hour ago, The Senator said:

 

Now I’m really confused.

 

Which guy does everyone think is an idiot?

 

Trump or Smallette?

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Yes

[Kevbeau]

6 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

How dare you marginalize the feelings that might be felt by Tom in the event that a man were actually attacked in the way that Jussie Smallette allegedly WAS attacked in a way that it is entirely possible and perhaps even plausible that he could have been attacked?!?!?! 

[Augie]

Tonight’s news was not kind to our “victim”. The brothers rolled on him. He was upset his threat letter didn’t get enough attention, so he pulled this off. Now......who sent the letter??? He said only an idiot would do that, so.......

[Teddy KGB]

Lmao.    Cancel this bum and let her get back to smashing old men ?

 

 

[The Senator]

12 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

Lmao.    Cancel this bum and let her get back to smashing old men ?

 

 

 

And she made a speech in SC saying she’d beat Trump in 2020???

 

The only person that idiot is capable of beating is herself.

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[/dev/null]

13 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

Lmao.    Cancel this bum and let her get back to smashing old men ?

 

 

 

why is that reporter focusing so much attention on her remarks on Smallette when there are more important issues to discuss.  Like her snazzy new jacket!

 

 

[The Senator]

On 1/31/2019 at 10:10 PM, LeGOATski said:

If this was a hoax, it should be easily identified as one, right? Investigators can tell from the injuries if they were self-inflicted...they'll inspect the scene for disturbances and other evidence. They'll get reports from the hospital staff.

 

I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what the investigators have done.

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On 1/31/2019 at 10:10 PM, LeGOATski said:

You'd have to be pretty crazy to attempt this.

 

Way beyond that, you’d have to be a f**king moron.  And Julie Smallette fits that description.

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[LeGOATski]

31 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what the investigators have done.

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Way beyond that, you’d have to be a f**king moron.  And Julie Smallette fits that description.

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He and his lawyers seem to be doubling down. If he was careful, this could easily be pinned on the Nigerian brothers.

 

In the words of a wise Cris Carter...always have a fall guy.