LeviF Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Most of the people here are missing the point. If you're going to wear a watch to impress the most people, it doesn't need to be a good timekeeper. It needs to shout "MONEY LIVES HERE!" to as many people as possible. Rolex, Cartier, Chanel, and Louis Vuitton do the trick for this. Rolex is the obvious first choice as it hits the trifecta of status symbol, retained value, and excellent timekeeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Most of the people here are missing the point. If you're going to wear a watch to impress the most people, it doesn't need to be a good timekeeper. It needs to shout "MONEY LIVES HERE!" to as many people as possible. Rolex, Cartier, Chanel, and Louis Vuitton do the trick for this. Rolex is the obvious first choice as it hits the trifecta of status symbol, retained value, and excellent timekeeping. i doubt many on here are going to buy a Rolex for the "look at me" thrill of the 100 people in my life who own and wear one they are usually gifts or legacies or the enjoyment of making a shtload of $$$ Edited January 18, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) I have my grail watch in the Omega, plus a much enjoyed Swiss-movement Tissot Heritage Sovereign (the cookie) that ticks with the heart of a lion, and a Ticino Pilot-B (Miyota movement) gem for fun. A store in my area used to sell good watches at grey-market prices and i cashed in well until they one day disappeared Edited January 18, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: i doubt many on here are going to buy a Rolex for the "look at me" thrill I don’t really need a nice watch but as shallow as this sounds I think it helps in my line of work. If I’m going to meet with these prospects and have a nice watch on it gives off a perception of success Does anybody actually read the thread body? The perception of success is what Kirby is going for. So (expensive) brand recognition is important. Like it or not, unless you're a watch enthusiast or avid GQ reader the name "Breitling" isn't going to impress you. If Kirby's meeting with 70 year old men...sure go for a classic like an Omega or something. Don't want anything too flashy then. For everyone else it's names that come up in rap songs, like it or not. Same with cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 A friend celebrated getting over a dire health scare with a very very nice pilot watch, which is a privilege to make mock fun of when he wears it but its 50mm and the joke is nobody would suspect he is wearing something worth many thousands of dollars with all the betas running around with pointy shoes and groovy socks and 50mm pieces of garbage of their thin wrists 13 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Does anybody actually read the thread body? The perception of success is what Kirby is going for. So (expensive) brand recognition is important. Like it or not, unless you're a watch enthusiast or avid GQ reader the name "Breitling" isn't going to impress you. If Kirby's meeting with 70 year old men...sure go for a classic like an Omega or something. Don't want anything too flashy then. For everyone else it's names that come up in rap songs, like it or not. Same with cars. don't worry, you are still the self-appointed tin-god buddah wisdom dispenser of this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, row_33 said: don't worry, you are still the self-appointed tin-god buddah wisdom dispenser of this thread... I'm just talkin truth. Real Gs will appreciate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Go Geek based theme Seiko Star Wars If you're a Trekkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 If you want to avoid the wrath of the "watch crowd" make sure the second hand rotates smoothly or in small burst of 3-5 times a second. if it goes "plink" and moves for each whole second it is a piece of trash (99.9% of the time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I can't wear watches because I constantly break the crystal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 14 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: As some of you know I broke off my engagement about a couple of months ago. I did take the ring back. I’m not sure what the move is there but I feel pretty good about it. At any rate, I’m thinking about trading it for a nice watch. I don’t really need a nice watch but as shallow as this sounds I think it helps in my line of work. If I’m going to meet with these prospects and have a nice watch on it gives off a perception of success (not a failed engagement ha ha). Does anyone have a nice watch that they love or regret purchasing? Buy a Rolex. They retain value famously. There are 20 year old oysters going for 90% retail on a new one. Its unbelievable. And like the old saying goes "Rolex...mo' sex.....Errybody get your roll on!" I believe it was Shakespeare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah, I’ve never been a watch guy. My friend’s dad owns a couple of jewlers (not sure if that’s the right tense). I just talked to her because they do pre-owned rolexes. I’m trying to just make a straight trade, this ring for a watch. She said her dad would hook me up but who knows. I really want to get this thing out of here and I know that just selling it will result in pennies on the dollar. The research I’ve done says to expect 50% of what you paid at most. If that’s the case I’d rather take a watch that’s 50 to 70% (retail) of what I paid. I also think it could be an investment. They hold their value and it may help me in sales. When meeting with CEO’s and owner’s there is something to “looking the part.” It may be a sub-conscious thing but I think it helps. It is not something that I need but I’d rather have that than a little money that I just bleed away on nonsense. If you can get a Rolex in good condition I would recommend it. It screams this guy knows what he's doing. Presidential datejust is my favorite. My uncles business partner has two. One with crazy amounts of diamonds that was ridiculously expensive the other without diamonds. They both are amazing. Edited January 18, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, row_33 said: If you want to avoid the wrath of the "watch crowd" make sure the second hand rotates smoothly or in small burst of 3-5 times a second. if it goes "plink" and moves for each whole second it is a piece of trash (99.9% of the time). Piece of trash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Does anybody actually read the thread body? The perception of success is what Kirby is going for. So (expensive) brand recognition is important. Like it or not, unless you're a watch enthusiast or avid GQ reader the name "Breitling" isn't going to impress you. If Kirby's meeting with 70 year old men...sure go for a classic like an Omega or something. Don't want anything too flashy then. For everyone else it's names that come up in rap songs, like it or not. Same with cars. Exactly. Does Kirby want to impress old dudes who have refined but understated taste in quality timepieces or vapid women who know that Rolex means you're hung like a pony? I know what my choice would be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I have a mechanical pocket watch that I never use anymore, but I actually really like my Samsung smartwatch. Tons of faces for download that look like the mechanical ones; tracks steps, stairs, and sleep; and it has it's own line so I can leave my phone home to charge and all my calls get forwarded to the watch. There's some interchangeable bands available for it too. Probably not exactly what you're looking for, but I do like it quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I have two Movados as I like the look. I am also older and like a watch vs cell phone. As for the use, if going for the ladies you want an recognized brand. There are many expensive Swiss brands that people do not know the name. If for business you want to show success but not too much. When I used to hire consulting firms if I saw an expensive watch I assumed they were charging too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Doc said: Piece of trash? yes, almost every watch with a second hand moving the whole second in one "plink" would be considered that if one is into watches i can name a few exceptions but they have never shown up that's a good giveaway it's cheap or a fake on the other hand I accept the advice by many that fakes are now getting so intricate that few could tell the diff Edited January 18, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, row_33 said: yes, almost every watch with a second hand moving the whole second in one "plink" would be considered that if one is into watches i can name a few exceptions but they have never shown up that's a good giveaway it's cheap or a fake on the other hand I accept the advice by many that fakes are now getting so intricate that few could tell the diff My buddy bought a fake Rolex just to see if it was all it was cracked up to be. Second hand rotates smoothly. Not sure where the movement was made but he noticed it gets about thirty seconds off after a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I've got an Oakley Timebomb watch that I got as a gift. I wear it when I go out / special function. Other than that I have a Garmin activity, Swiss Army day/date, and Swatch chrono watches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, BuffaloBud said: I've got an Oakley Timebomb watch that I got as a gift. I wear it when I go out / special function. Other than that I have a Garmin activity, Swiss Army day/date, and Swatch chrono watches. a good and functional collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 33 minutes ago, row_33 said: Yes, almost every watch with a second hand moving the whole second in one "plink" would be considered that if one is into watches i can name a few exceptions but they have never shown up that's a good giveaway it's cheap or a fake on the other hand I accept the advice by many that fakes are now getting so intricate that few could tell the diff Yes the “sweeping seconds” is the sign of a higher end watch. I have a $300 Citizen that is radio-controlled and solar-powered that has a “deadbeat second” hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Doc said: Yes the “sweeping seconds” is the sign of a higher end watch. I have a $300 Citizen that is radio-controlled and solar-powered that has a “deadbeat second” hand. it's my only tip for people, it's let me quietly nod when a Rolex is presented with a quartz battery-operating tick of a second-hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, row_33 said: it's my only tip for people, it's let me quietly nod when a Rolex is presented with a quartz battery-operating tick of a second-hand. Yup. That's a dead giveaway to a fake high-end watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Or a lower budget price, which is fine, I wear one most days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 hours ago, row_33 said: I have my grail watch in the Omega, plus a much enjoyed Swiss-movement Tissot Heritage Sovereign (the cookie) that ticks with the heart of a lion, and a Ticino Pilot-B (Miyota movement) gem for fun. A store in my area used to sell good watches at grey-market prices and i cashed in well until they one day disappeared Does this mean he was at store when he wasn't at the bus station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I have a Rolex 116710blnr. Over the years I’ve had quite a few nice watches. In the current marketplace, because Rolex is ostensibly trying to move more upmarket and compete direct with Patek and Audemars, steel Rolex offerings are tough to get. Anyone you find, save for perhaps an Explorer 2 and maybe the Milgauss, you can probably flip for at least $1000 over msrp. I don’t like Patek or Audemars. About three years ago I had a pp 5711 that I sold about 8 months later for a profit. They’re haute horlogerie and nothing more - exquisite movements and marginally finer finishing relative to Rolex. With that said, you can get just as fine of finishing and a more precise movement from a Hi-Beat Grand Seiko (not to be confused with regular Seiko - Grand Seiko is it’s own brand with a $5000 point of entry). All in all, I’ll stick with Rolex. It holds its value incredibly well compared to any other brand. They have robust case and movements with predictable time tolerances (my blnr is +1.4 seconds a day like clockwork). I had a moonwatch. When it was still 3570.xxx. I sold it after about a year. Amazing history of course. However I hated hand winding it and the hesalite crystal is scratch magnet (but to be fair so too are the pcls on my Oyster bracelet). The bracelet I felt was dinky and it ran +9 seconds a day which, since there isn’t cosc governance for hand wind movements, was ok within Omega advertised tolerance but not to my liking. If you want Rolex r&d, familial tie, and a watch that will likely appreciate over time but with a cheaper entry point, buy a Tudor. I’d recommend a Black Bay. The new Black Bay gmt is a stunner if you can find it. But a Rolex Sub, gmt, and Explorer are watches that you can get for less than $10,000 that will hold value well and provide you with a few lifetimes of good horological companionship. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanCRNA Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, Juror#8 said: I have a Rolex 116710blnr. Over the years I’ve had quite a few nice watches. In the current marketplace, because Rolex is ostensibly trying to move more upmarket and compete direct with Patek and Audemars, steel Rolex offerings are tough to get. Anyone you find, save for perhaps an Explorer 2 and maybe the Milgauss, you can probably flip for at least $1000 over msrp. I don’t like Patek or Audemars. About three years ago I had a pp 5711 that I sold about 8 months later for a profit. They’re haute horlogerie and nothing more - exquisite movements and marginally finer finishing relative to Rolex. With that said, you can get just as fine of finishing and a more precise movement from a Hi-Beat Grand Seiko (not to be confused with regular Seiko - Grand Seiko is it’s own brand with a $5000 point of entry). All in all, I’ll stick with Rolex. It holds its value incredibly well compared to any other brand. They have robust case and movements with predictable time tolerances (my blnr is +1.4 seconds a day like clockwork). I had a moonwatch. When it was still 3570.xxx. I sold it after about a year. Amazing history of course. However I hated hand winding it and the hesalite crystal is scratch magnet (but to be fair so too are the pcls on my Oyster bracelet). The bracelet I felt was dinky and it ran +9 seconds a day which, since there isn’t cosc governance for hand wind movements, was ok within Omega advertised tolerance but not to my liking. If you want Rolex r&d, familial tie, and a watch that will likely appreciate over time but with a cheaper entry point, buy a Tudor. I’d recommend a Black Bay. The new Black Bay gmt is a stunner if you can find it. But a Rolex Sub, gmt, and Explorer are watches that you can get for less than $10,000 that will hold value well and provide you with a few lifetimes of good horological companionship. Good luck. Lots of good stuff here. I have the 116610 Submariner. Also have a Panerai 176, although I don't wear it often as it is hand-wound rather than automatic. Completely agree on the Tudor recommendation. I really like the Heritage Black Bay Dark. Rolex bloodlines but an entry point in the high 2K - low 3K range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 10:20 AM, row_33 said: man sitting next to me at a meeting had a nice one on last week i wasn't in the mood to strike up a conversation about it this time Omega speedy moons are now out there as automatic, the oldies (and mine) are me-winding Yes, I know. As the Speedmaster has grown in popularity over the years, Omega has brought out countless iterations. The one to get, IMO, is manual winding, solid case back, with the hesalite crystal. I have one in my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 10:38 AM, LeviF91 said: Does anybody actually read the thread body? The perception of success is what Kirby is going for. So (expensive) brand recognition is important. Like it or not, unless you're a watch enthusiast or avid GQ reader the name "Breitling" isn't going to impress you. If Kirby's meeting with 70 year old men...sure go for a classic like an Omega or something. Don't want anything too flashy then. For everyone else it's names that come up in rap songs, like it or not. Same with cars. On the contrary, Breitling is super widely known these days and every Jackass and his brother wandering around the shopping mall is wearing one, which is one reason why I tend to avoid them. You are discounting Breitling's massive brand recognition value. Where your point would hold, IMO, is with Holy Trinity type watches that cost as much as fancy cars...but which would not be known by your average punter who isn't into fine watches. I'm talking stuff like Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Vacheron Constantin, and Jaeger LeCoultre. If you want to impress watch enthusiasts, wear a tourbillon movement from one of the classic watch houses. If you want to impress Joe Jackass, a TAG Heuer will probably work just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Can anyone recommend a watch, under $100, that would impress the ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: On the contrary, Breitling is super widely known these days and every Jackass and his brother wandering around the shopping mall is wearing one, which is one reason why I tend to avoid them. You are discounting Breitling's massive brand recognition value. Where your point would hold, IMO, is with Holy Trinity type watches that cost as much as fancy cars...but which would not be known by your average punter who isn't into fine watches. I'm talking stuff like Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Vacheron Constantin, and Jaeger LeCoultre. If you want to impress watch enthusiasts, wear a tourbillon movement from one of the classic watch houses. If you want to impress Joe Jackass, a TAG Heuer will probably work just fine. Re: Breitling, guess I'm not paying enough attention. 18 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Can anyone recommend a watch, under $100, that would impress the ladies. Calculator watch. ***** love nerds now and it signals your income potential as an engineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 No, I don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 6 hours ago, BillsFanCRNA said: Lots of good stuff here. I have the 116610 Submariner. Also have a Panerai 176, although I don't wear it often as it is hand-wound rather than automatic. Completely agree on the Tudor recommendation. I really like the Heritage Black Bay Dark. Rolex bloodlines but an entry point in the high 2K - low 3K range. I looked up the Submariner, good taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, unbillievable said: Can anyone recommend a watch, under $100, that would impress the ladies. Rotary. EDIT: I just noticed my Cambridge model is now $195. I must have been lucky. And no, the jeweller didn’t have three on each arm. Edited January 19, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, unbillievable said: Can anyone recommend a watch, under $100, that would impress the ladies. For that price, the only thing I can think of is one where you can flip the face up and stash your cocaine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, LeviF91 said: Re: Breitling, guess I'm not paying enough attention. Correct. Next time you're at the urinal take a minute to check out the wrist of the guy next to you and notice his watch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I have an omega speed master, and a Rolex explorer 2, both of which have been mentioned. Love them, and wear them both on the regular. Fun fact...I didn’t buy either. Both were gifts. The omega was a graduation gift, and the Rolex was a gift from someone I did quite a bit of work for and didn’t charge them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) I have a $320 Citizen titanium atomic-time, solar-powered watch. Most expensive watch I’ve ever owned. Don’t ever have to set time, wind it or change battery. Looks great and get a lot of compliments. Edited January 21, 2019 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I’ll admit I didn’t read through the whole thread. But what do you expect your budget to be? Depending on price and availability, it could change things a lot. But assuming a decent ring for trade in, I’d say go with an Omega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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