LSHMEAB Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Every year when the draft comes around, there seems to be 4 or 5 players linked to the Bills either because of need or draft slot. There is always that one guy I absolutely do not want the Bills to draft. Last year, I was vehemently opposed to Darnold. Turnover machine at USC that never seemed to rise to the occasion. Also superficially(admittedly unfair), didn't want that particular face to represent the franchise. Darnold had a solid rookie season, but I remain unconvinced. This year, that player is Jonah Williams. I understand there are several TBD member sold on Jonah, but I don't see it. I don't view him as a LT and I don't want to take a guy at 9 without a clear cut NFL position. My question is this; is there a player in this draft(or in recent years) tangentially linked to the Bills who's name you absolutely don't want to hear when we're on the clock? If so, who is that player and why? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 At #9, any offensive lineman that won't be playing LT come September. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Ed Oliver. Seems like a real arrogant prick-bag. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Ed Oliver. Seems like a real arrogant prick-bag. I figured that name would pop up rather quickly. Very polarizing prospect. I'm pretty ambivalent on Oliver, but he's NOT Aaron Donald physically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 so I suppose you're basing this off the loss to clemson? not saying that is why you are just seems funny that it you created a thread and he was "the guy" you don't want the bills to draft? I don't have anyone I don't want them to draft. they'll hopefully make the right choice(s). if they pick williams, I'll be fine with it and I'm sure if they did, it wouldn't be based off a national championship loss but by his career as a whole and he had a pretty solid college career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Good question. I think I do struggle to get the better of my own bias. An example of this is I automatically don’t want my team to touch women beaters of which there seem an astonishingly large number among NFL players. Is that fair considering I’m not familiar with the context? Absolutely not, but there it is. So that’s Simmons and at least one other prospect I can’t recall off the top of my head. Don’t care how much of a Tyreek Hill impact they have on my team or how much value they give by dropping. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 N'Keal Harry - WR except no substitutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: At #9, any offensive lineman that won't be playing LT come September. As someone with eyeballs that just witnessed Quenton Nelson's effect on the Colts o-line, I politely disagree. 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Incidentally I’m not keen on Jonah either. I’ve only seen a couple of his games vs Georgia and Clemson, so obviously high quality opponents. I thought DeAndre Walker bullied him a bit. By all accounts he did ok yesterday but he didn’t really flash as a dominant player. Perhaps that’s unreasonable expectations but unlike to see a high pick do well against quality opponents or in big games, especially if I’m spending a top 10 pick on him. Edited January 8, 2019 by Seoul_panther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Ed Oliver. Seems like a real arrogant prick-bag. Their coach, who got fired, might have overreacted too. I don’t want a scumbag (Simmons of Mississippi St) or a defensive back in the first. Any other than that, I’m pretty good with. 4 minutes ago, Seoul_panther said: Good question. I think I do struggle to get the better of my own bias. An example of this is I automatically don’t want my team to touch women beaters of which there seem an astonishingly large number among NFL players. Is that fair considering I’m not familiar with the context? Absolutely not, but there it is. So that’s Simmons and at least one other prospect I can’t recall off the top of my head. Don’t care how much of a Tyreek Hill impact they have on my team or how much value they give by dropping. Wow, an excellent post. I would have questioned being a Bills fan if they took Joe Mixon. At some point, there are more important things than winning football games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, Logic said: As someone with eyeballs that just witnessed Quenton Nelson's effect on the Colts o-line, I politely disagree. Make no mistake, there is no Quenton Nelson in this draft. Edited January 9, 2019 by Chicken Boo 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Chicken Boo said: Make no mistake, there is no Quenton Neslon in this draft. THAT.....is the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 After watching last nights game at #9 I would say Jonah Williams. I don’t think he is a top 10 player. Maybe if we trade down I’m ok with him. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: Make no mistake, there is no Quenton Neslon in this draft. Statements like this are silly. It’s like saying there’s no Tom Bradys in the draft when the original one went in the 6th round. We have no idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Im not keen on Williams at 9 myself, but as I have said before Daboll know's him pretty well, so if he wants to sign off on him at 9 then it I think you go with it ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Their coach, who got fired, might have overreacted too. I don’t want a scumbag (Simmons of Mississippi St) or a defensive back in the first. Any other than that, I’m pretty good with. I don’t want Applewhite either. Other than looking like a colossal head case with his choices in that situation, I have read a few scouting reports which suggest that Oliver is overrated and the Donald comparisons are waaaaay off. I don’t want him. Certainly not at 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: so I suppose you're basing this off the loss to clemson? not saying that is why you are just seems funny that it you created a thread and he was "the guy" you don't want the bills to draft? I don't have anyone I don't want them to draft. they'll hopefully make the right choice(s). if they pick williams, I'll be fine with it and I'm sure if they did, it wouldn't be based off a national championship loss but by his career as a whole and he had a pretty solid college career. That's a fair take, but I've been opposed to Williams AT 9 for awhile. I just don't see him as an NFL LT based on measurables. If we were to trade down and he were available lower in the first round, I wouldn't have a problem with it because I think he could potentially be a very solid interior OL man. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I don’t want Applewhite either. Other than looking like a colossal head case with his choices in that situation, I have read a few scouting reports which suggest that Oliver is overrated and the Donald comparisons are waaaaay off. I don’t want him. Certainly not at 9. That’s fair. I’ll be honest that I didn’t see enough of him this year. But if that was his worst “off the field” issue, that wouldn’t affect my character grade on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Greg little and Rashan Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, WMDman said: Greg little and Rashan Gary Total agreement on Gary. I'm a Michigan fan so I watched every game. Absolutely do not see him as an impact player at the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Statements like this are silly. It’s like saying there’s no Tom Bradys in the draft when the original one went in the 6th round. We have no idea. Fair point, but Nelson was widely considered a rare interior line talent and a can’t miss prospect. Hence, the anomaly of an OG being picked in the top 10. I don’t see any of those type of o-line prospects in this draft. Not even an OT held in similar “pre-draft regard” as Nelson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 No offensive player at 9. The strength of the draft is defense so If the Bills stay at 9 take the best defensive player left and then go offense in round 2. Would love a trade down, which could change things depending on far back they go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 If it’s possible I’m trading that 9th pick away.. Either for a later first and 2nds or an impact receiver. If they’re staying at 9 I’ll agree with the LT Williams. I haven’t watched him play much I just hate to use a top 10 pick on any lineman who isn’t considered a instant 5-10 year starter and all pro from the get go. If we are making any kind of noise next season we need players who can make a serious impact day one. I don’t think there’s any can’t miss lineman in the top 10. Just my 2 cents some of the draft gurus may know better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Josh Allen..didn't want him last year, dont want him this year!! !( i kid, i kid) although I did not want JA last year, that is true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I know the OP is high on Greg Little and opposed to Jonah Williams. I do not have a strong opinion on Jonah, but I tend to agree with WMD on a no to Greg Little. My thought is that his attitude is reportedly not "all in". Taking plays off, maybe a little lazy attitude at times. Now I have not seen very much of Mr. Little, but I was bothered by those reports. My past "please no" players have been Orlondo Brown, Jr. (last year with bad combine); Jonathon Martin (soft) and our own Cyrus K (looked good in shorts but got beaten like a drum in the championship game). I don't like the Mixon, T. Hill, M. Bryant type thing either. I do know we have to hit this pick, and cannot miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, Yav said: N'Keal Harry - WR except no substitutes. Wait. Arizona State avatar but you DON’T want N’Keal Harry? What is going on here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 They probably shouldn't draft me, though I would be a hilarious presence in the locker room and would have minimal impact on the cap. Still, the utter lack of anything resembling a skill of any kind is likely fatal to my chances at a roster spot. Maybe next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Statements like this are silly. It’s like saying there’s no Tom Bradys in the draft when the original one went in the 6th round. We have no idea. There is no offensive lineman, let alone a guard, in this draft who's stock or evaluation is as high as Nelson. Not silly at all. It's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: Every year when the draft comes around, there seems to be 4 or 5 players linked to the Bills either because of need or draft slot. There is always that one guy I absolutely do not want the Bills to draft. Last year, I was vehemently opposed to Darnold. Turnover machine at USC that never seemed to rise to the occasion. Also superficially(admittedly unfair), didn't want that particular face to represent the franchise. Darnold had a solid rookie season, but I remain unconvinced. This year, that player is Jonah Williams. I understand there are several TBD member sold on Jonah, but I don't see it. I don't view him as a LT and I don't want to take a guy at 9 without a clear cut NFL position. My question is this; is there a player in this draft(or in recent years) tangentially linked to the Bills who's name you absolutely don't want to hear when we're on the clock? If so, who is that player and why? The ones that will be busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, CNYfan said: I know the OP is high on Greg Little and opposed to Jonah Williams. I do not have a strong opinion on Jonah, but I tend to agree with WMD on a no to Greg Little. My thought is that his attitude is reportedly not "all in". Taking plays off, maybe a little lazy attitude at times. Now I have not seen very much of Mr. Little, but I was bothered by those reports. My past "please no" players have been Orlondo Brown, Jr. (last year with bad combine); Jonathon Martin (soft) and our own Cyrus K (looked good in shorts but got beaten like a drum in the championship game). I don't like the Mixon, T. Hill, M. Bryant type thing either. I do know we have to hit this pick, and cannot miss. I wouldn't say I'm high on Little per se. I would say I rank him higher than Williams simply because he has more potential. The reports are indeed troubling and I'm sure the regime will do their due diligence regarding FOOTBALL character. My guy is Ferrell at 9 as this draft is top heavy at Dline and we could certainly use an impact player there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 42 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: That's a fair take, but I've been opposed to Williams AT 9 for awhile. I just don't see him as an NFL LT based on measurables. If we were to trade down and he were available lower in the first round, I wouldn't have a problem with it because I think he could potentially be a very solid interior OL man. A this point I would be tempted to trade up to #1 overall to get a solid Olineman Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: Every year when the draft comes around, there seems to be 4 or 5 players linked to the Bills either because of need or draft slot. There is always that one guy I absolutely do not want the Bills to draft. Last year, I was vehemently opposed to Darnold. Turnover machine at USC that never seemed to rise to the occasion. Also superficially(admittedly unfair), didn't want that particular face to represent the franchise. Darnold had a solid rookie season, but I remain unconvinced. This year, that player is Jonah Williams. I understand there are several TBD member sold on Jonah, but I don't see it. I don't view him as a LT and I don't want to take a guy at 9 without a clear cut NFL position. My question is this; is there a player in this draft(or in recent years) tangentially linked to the Bills who's name you absolutely don't want to hear when we're on the clock? If so, who is that player and why? For me the better question is who do I want the Bills to pick. I don’t know if I’m sold on any of the top ten prospects. Maybe the DE from Clemson? I really like some of the OTs in round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 If he is part of the Process then he is ok with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I wouldn't say I'm high on Little per se. I would say I rank him higher than Williams simply because he has more potential. The reports are indeed troubling and I'm sure the regime will do their due diligence regarding FOOTBALL character. My guy is Ferrell at 9 as this draft is top heavy at Dline and we could certainly use an impact player there. That might be the smart pick if he is there. I’m trying to find a second option if he is not. I think I would prefer going with one of the OTs in round 2 rather than Williams in round 1 (unless they draft him as a guard). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, billspro said: For me the better question is who do I want the Bills to pick. I don’t know if I’m sold on any of the top ten prospects. Maybe the DE from Clemson? I really like some of the OTs in round 2. That is a more IMPORTANT question, but there's always been that ONE guy I simply did not want the Bills to draft. Was curious as to whether or not others had a similar sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Feel like Quinnen Williams might be a little overrated. Love Josh Allen from UK. Would love to get Jonah Williams. The versatility he brings is hard to come by. At 9 we probably get none of these anyway. I guess of the guys who will be there none of the WR seem worthy of that high a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I want zero trade ups!!!!! We have been giving away high draft picks the last few drafts. Trade down for a change. Trade down again. We are not 1 player away- so stop trading up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Pete said: I want zero trade ups!!!!! We have been giving away high draft picks the last few drafts. Trade down for a change. Trade down again. We are not 1 player away- so stop trading up! I will bet Beane trades up at some stage.. possibly into the bottom of the first with the second rounder.. He seems to be one that swing for the fences... Hopefully he got a couple of home runs last year with Allen and Edmunds... time will tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Rashaan Gary and Jeffrey Simmons off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, NewDayBills said: Rashaan Gary and Jeffrey Simmons off the top of my head. There seems to be a bit of a consensus regarding Gary; nobody wants him, myself included. At least I know who we'll end up taking.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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