Pete Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Oh no!! Bills anti-tanking to tenth!! http://www.tankathon.com/nfl I want the Bills to out tank the giants. If we are one pick ahead of them, they will send us more draft picks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pete said: I want the Bills to out tank the giants. If we are one pick ahead of them, they will send us more draft picks What QB would they draft ?? Very slim pickings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: What QB would they draft ?? Very slim pickings. haskins, lock, herbert- and teams will massively overpay. I would like to see us be the recipient of a trade down for a change(josh, zay, edwards, dawkins, et) trade back and let the draft come to us. Numbers show that the highest success is players drafted in back half of first round, and 2nd. Let the suckers trade up. Now lets start stockpiling picks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Pete said: haskins, lock, herbert- and teams will massively overpay. I would like to see us be the recipient of a trade down for a change(josh, zay, edwards, dawkins, et) trade back and let the draft come to us. Numbers show that the highest success is players drafted in back half of first round, and 2nd. Let the suckers trade up. Now lets start stockpiling picks! Haskins is not even close to ready, I dont think any QB under Urban Meyer has done anything. The rest of those guys aint great either, hopefully you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Haskins is not even close to ready, I dont think any QB under Urban Meyer has done anything. The rest of those guys aint great either, hopefully you're right. Having seen every snap of his career I can say, with confidence, that Haskins is by MILES the best pro prospect Urban has ever had (besides Alex Smith). He typically has these zone read QBs. That’s not Haskins. He is 100% a pocket passer. He’s accurate, with a big arm. The pro scouts LOVE him. I will be surprised if he isn’t the first QB taken. Edited December 17, 2018 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Having seen every snap of his career I can say, with confidence, that Haskins is by MILES the best pro prospect Urban has ever had (besides Alex Smith). He typically has these zone read QBs. That’s not Haskins. He is 100% a pocket passer. He’s accurate, with a big arm. The pro scouts LOVE him. I will be surprised if he isn’t the first QB taken. i remember a certain "pocket passer" from there that we drafted that was a cant miss prospect with a laser rocket arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Looking at 10th pick. If we stay their thinking WR from Arizona State in round 1, OT in Round 2, OG in round 3, RB and DT in round 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) DK Metcalf territory Edited December 17, 2018 by FeelingOnYouboty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I would really rather go OL over WR. Receiver is obviously super deep this year and JA has shown he can make a decent receiver out of nobodies. Give him more time in the pocket and take a WR later, make a much bigger impact overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 2:37 PM, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t think that they are in the same tier as guys like Bosa & Quinnen Williams. I have a bunch of defensive players ahead of any offensive players. In a draft like this it has the reverse effect too. If it is thin at a position guys naturally get overdrafted. If it is deep at a position guys get underdrafted. I’m a BIG believer in drafting to the strength of the draft for that reason. You get better football players. We have 0 sacks in the last 8 quarters of football. Give me Rashan Gary please and thank you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: i remember a certain "pocket passer" from there that we drafted that was a cant miss prospect with a laser rocket arm. Cardale was a different player. He was a 7th round pick for a reason. He had huge upside but plenty of flaws. He didn’t have the touch or production of Haskins. He’s going to end up being the 1st QB off the board IMO. Gil Brandt was talking about how much the scouting community loves him last week. Haskins is squeaky clean as a prospect. He just doesn’t have a lot of starts under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: What QB would they draft ?? Very slim pickings. Thought he played banjo?? The less options the more value in teams to trade up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: We have 0 sacks in the last 8 quarters of football. Give me Rashan Gary please and thank you. Would be a great pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 hours ago, KD in CA said: Oh no!! Bills anti-tanking to tenth!! http://www.tankathon.com/nfl I suspect the Bills will lose to a highly motivated Pats team next week and at least one or two of the teams ahead of them will win (Giants, Falcons, Detroit, or Tampa Bay) I also think the Dolphins game could be a game that the Fins need to keep their hopes for the playoffs alive so that might be a tough game to win. So if the Bills lose both their last two games they will at least draft between 8-6. A good spot to be to nab an elite OT or even trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: I suspect the Bills will lose to a highly motivated Pats team next week and at least one or two of the teams ahead of them will win (Giants, Falcons, Detroit, or Tampa Bay) I also think the Dolphins game could be a game that the Fins need to keep their hopes for the playoffs alive so that might be a tough game to win. So if the Bills lose both their last two games they will at least draft between 8-6. A good spot to be to nab an elite OT or even trade down. I'm kinda thinking that Dolphins game at home will be a win. If that's the case BPA, don't trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 7:23 PM, Boca BIlls said: Picking the wrong guy wherever you draft is what leads to mediocrity. Draft the right player for your team and improve. This is McBeane's most important draft and possibly last if they dont blow it out of the water. 2018 was the most important draft for McBeane because that was the one where he had to land his QB. Although the 2019 draft is important because now you have to get talent around the QB getting the QB is still the bigger decision. I think this off-season is huge because the Bills are now in the place where every franchise wants to be in position to spend big while a QB is on a rookie deal. The Bills are in a position similar to where the Rams were in 2017 and the Bears last off-season. Now its time to put Allen in a position to win with a year of experience under his belt and a good defense in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, WhyteDwarf said: I'm kinda thinking that Dolphins game at home will be a win. If that's the case BPA, don't trade down. It could be, but I think the Fins are going to be possibly playing for a playoff spot (They could be in a win and need help scenario.) So its not a game I would favor the Bills winning. In the event the Bills finish 6-10 they probably pick between 8-11. I honestly am not too upset about them ***** up their draft position but I tend to just want the team to play well and lose a close game haha. I do think that this regime has in early returns on 2 drafts shown that they do know how to draft. So the more picks they have the better. I think they do like to trade up to grab talent so I wouldn't be shocked to see a trade up happen either. Overall I think when you have a front office that knows how to draft getting more picks is never a bad thing. Just to clarify I wouldn't hate BPA either but if a good trade down is there take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Cardale was a different player. He was a 7th round pick for a reason. He had huge upside but plenty of flaws. He didn’t have the touch or production of Haskins. He’s going to end up being the 1st QB off the board IMO. Gil Brandt was talking about how much the scouting community loves him last week. Haskins is squeaky clean as a prospect. He just doesn’t have a lot of starts under his belt. good luck with that, the guy i saw is not ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 2:08 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said: good luck with that, the guy i saw is not ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: With a first round projection I don't see him staying. The economics of the draft with his first round grade make it difficult to stay in school. The financial consideration isn't only about the first contract. It is just as much about getting to the richer second contract sooner assuming the player develops as projected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, JohnC said: With a first round projection I don't see him staying. The economics of the draft with his first round grade make it difficult to stay in school. The financial consideration isn't only about the first contract. It is just as much about getting to the richer second contract sooner assuming the player develops as projected. Of course he’s not staying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 12:23 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Cardale was a different player. He was a 7th round pick for a reason. He had huge upside but plenty of flaws. He didn’t have the touch or production of Haskins. He’s going to end up being the 1st QB off the board IMO. Gil Brandt was talking about how much the scouting community loves him last week. Haskins is squeaky clean as a prospect. He just doesn’t have a lot of starts under his belt. ...huge upside?....seriously?.....and where has that led him?.....besides he was a 4th round pick............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Of course he’s not staying! Don't you think that if he got a second or third round grade his decision would be more up in the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 6:40 PM, John from Riverside said: Yeah I did not realize till the other day that Clay was only going to cost 4.5 million I would keep him as the number 2 and get a number 1 Clay at this point might not even be worth a roster spot. 60 catches last year seems like decade ago and those knees wont get any better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...huge upside?....seriously?.....and where has that led him?.....besides he was a 4th round pick............. Yeah, that’s right. He was a 4th. He had MASSIVE upside. There is no doubt about that. He also had an incredibly low floor. He was either going to be a Pro Bowl QB or never see the field. He was huge, with a big arm, and a lot of athleticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah, that’s right. He was a 4th. He had MASSIVE upside. There is no doubt about that. He also had an incredibly low floor. He was either going to be a Pro Bowl QB or never see the field. He was huge, with a big arm, and a lot of athleticism. ....maybe I'm prejudiced by OSU never turning out QB's......Schlichter was a helluva....gambler......Smith never amounted to much....plenty of hype about their 2018 stable as well....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....maybe I'm prejudiced by OSU never turning out QB's......Schlichter was a helluva....gambler......Smith never amounted to much....plenty of hype about their 2018 stable as well....... All different guys though. Old Art had his demons. Smith was never going to be a pro. Barrett was the same. Cardale was super raw and all or nothing. Haskins is a 1st round pick. He reminds me of Matt Ryan. We will see how it turns out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, JohnC said: Don't you think that if he got a second or third round grade his decision would be more up in the air? Yes, just never considered that he would get anything lower than a 1st Edited December 23, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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entropyrules Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 so it looks like the worst they'll do is pick 10th if they beat Miami and everyone else continues to lose and they may get the 5th spot with a loss to Miami and wins by Lions, Bucs and Giants..that SOS doesn't look like it in itself will change their draft position...yes/no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Yippeee! Going to start looking for SuperBowl tix early next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCBills Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I’m not saying we should lose to Miami, but I don’t think it’s wise to win. I was all aboard trying to beat NE, but there’s a big difference between 5/6 and 11/12. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPL7 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, SCBills said: I’m not saying we should lose to Miami, but I don’t think it’s wise to win. I was all aboard trying to beat NE, but there’s a big difference between 5/6 and 11/12. That useless December win against the Lions will likely cost us getting Jonah Williams. And it's not like we need O-Line help desperately or anything. Of course losing to Miami is better for the Bills, than garnering another useless December victory. I have been a diehard fan of the Bills for almost 30 years, but the Bills going 0-16 wouldn't have been a bad thing for the longhaul. Rooting for them to win these games is incredibly shortsighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BADOLBILZ Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 hours ago, JPL7 said: the Bills going 0-16 wouldn't have been a bad thing for the longhaul. There's always next year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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