TigerJ Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 hours ago, 17islongenough said: Comp Picks? I think not. Comp picks only happen if a player's contract expires and the player is not re-signed. (Then there is a complex formula that kicks in, taking into account free agents lost versus free agents signed, and their salaries among other things. Only the league knows the exact formula they use.) If a player is cut before his contract expires, he does not figure into comp picks. In the next off season, it is likely the Bills will be active players in free agency, and probably won't be racking up any comp picks because of it. Keeping KB probably would not have made a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 KB alligator arming the should have been touchdown was enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 hours ago, mjt328 said: I have the same question. If the Bills kept him on the roster for 4 more games, Kelvin Benjamin becomes an unrestricted free agent. Assuming he signs a decent contract (not sure how likely that is), it factors into the compensatory pick formula. With the money we will spend this offseason, there is zero chance that we are in contention for comp picks this year. There was no benefit in waiting until the end of the year for comp picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Get a clue Omar! What an amazingly ignorant observation by Omar Kelly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Hamburg Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Good Deal...About time..KB does not breed a good culture in the locker room...hope he does well with another team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Perk71 said: Hopefully that's their next move... Wouldn't make sense cap wise until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 How is anyone praising the regime about this move? They were with the guy in Carolina and traded a decent pick for him. He has sucked pretty much since they brought him here. And like Peterman, they wait far too long to cut him. Additionally, if they hang on and just bench him for 4 games, they potentially get a comp pick. The whole Benjamin thing was completely stupid. but that’s to be expected with a defensive coordinator running your franchise. Great job with the defense and we throw a parry when we score 17 points. This regime has been a complete failure on offense. They have a lot to prove this offseason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, TigerJ said: What an amazingly ignorant observation by Omar Kelly! Seriously. Putting a guy with a broken leg on Ir and cutting two WRs who have done nothing is self destruction? OK Omar, go ahead and sign Benjamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 That go-ahead TD last week vs the Jags, on JA’s scramble ... go look at the TEAM celebrate, then look at KB’s reaction. Looked more like an opposing player reaction than a teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: This move does, however, take us from having the worst WR corps in the league to having the way worst WR corps in the league. Not the way he was dogging it. It takes us from having the way worst WR corps in the league to having the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I honestly tried to like Benjamin but he just flat out doesn't make any effort. That spat with Cam Newton was just embarrassing. Newton is a Pro Bowler and Kelvin...has nice dreads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: How is anyone praising the regime about this move? They were with the guy in Carolina and traded a decent pick for him. He has sucked pretty much since they brought him here. And like Peterman, they wait far too long to cut him. Additionally, if they hang on and just bench him for 4 games, they potentially get a comp pick. The whole Benjamin thing was completely stupid. but that’s to be expected with a defensive coordinator running your franchise. Great job with the defense and we throw a parry when we score 17 points. This regime has been a complete failure on offense. They have a lot to prove this offseason. This I agree with. They brought him here intentionally and he's been crap. IMO he was the biggest counter argument to the whole "culture" commentary. There's no way he contributed to that in a positive way and yet he stayed and stayed and stayed. Look up "dog" in the dictionary and there is a picture of Kelvin Benjamin. Add him to the list of guys they brought here on purpose who are no longer with the team. It's getting pretty long already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bills11 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Great move by the F.O ...talent does not trump desire....kelvin benjamin from the beginning of the year had a horrible attitude that ridiculous spat with newton..celebrating like a serious game vs the panthers in pre season then after week 1 realizing he was looking dumb he just mailed it in..his effort has been atrocious last game was just the last straw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 hours ago, prissythecat said: Someone is likely going to quickly kick the tires on Benjamin given his past performance in Carolina I couldn't care less where this idiot lands, he's never going to be a big time receiver. Slow & lazy. Even 50 50 balls were easily knocked out. 4 hours ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: It's all about Ray Ray Newsflash....Ray Ray is getting cut eventually.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Joeziehmer said: Benjamin, a first-round pick of the Panthers in 2014, was in the final season of his rookie contract and was scheduled for unrestricted free agency in March. Any team claiming Benjamin off waivers would owe him the remaining portion of his $8.5 million base salary this season. If he is not claimed off waivers, the Bills would owe Benjamin the remainder of his fully guaranteed salary.- Per ESPN Don’t give McBeane to much credit; as we could have benched him and let him go as an unrestricted free agent. Never let a shot at McBeane go to waste. Thank goodness this never gets old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: How is anyone praising the regime about this move? They were with the guy in Carolina and traded a decent pick for him. He has sucked pretty much since they brought him here. And like Peterman, they wait far too long to cut him. Additionally, if they hang on and just bench him for 4 games, they potentially get a comp pick. The whole Benjamin thing was completely stupid. but that’s to be expected with a defensive coordinator running your franchise. Great job with the defense and we throw a parry when we score 17 points. This regime has been a complete failure on offense. They have a lot to prove this offseason. I think the reaction is more like "Finally!" rather than "Great move!" Every GM in the league is gonna make mistakes. The difference is whether and when they realize it and move on. And you can't have a guy who is dogging it like KB on the team. Not and be taken seriously as a coach when you speak of effort. I think the comp pick is a non issue. If we spend a fraction of our cap space on free agents, no comp pick. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 points for decisiveness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Every GM in the league is gonna make mistakes. The difference is whether and when they realize it and move on. And you can't have a guy who is dogging it like KB on the team. Not and be taken seriously as a coach when you speak of effort. Exactly. At last Vontae Davis had the good sense to realize he was useless. KB needed someone to point it out to him. You cut lazy workers, even at a loss. Te only person who could possibly have a problem with this decision is, say, a one-trick pony who only whines about management with every freaking post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well OK then but who are we putting on the field? You? Me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Seriously. Putting a guy with a broken leg on Ir and cutting two WRs who have done nothing is self destruction? OK Omar, go ahead and sign Benjamin. He knows as much about football as my cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think the reaction is more like "Finally!" rather than "Great move!" Every GM in the league is gonna make mistakes. The difference is whether and when they realize it and move on. And you can't have a guy who is dogging it like KB on the team. Not and be taken seriously as a coach when you speak of effort. I think the comp pick is a non issue. If we spend a fraction of our cap space on free agents, no comp pick. They were with this guy when he showed up looking like a o linemen in Carolina. Yet, they traded a draft pick for him and started him for basically a full season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Exactly. At last Vontae Davis had the good sense to realize he was useless. KB needed someone to point it out to him. You cut lazy workers, even at a loss. Te only person who could possibly have a problem with this decision is, say, a one-trick pony who only whines about management with every freaking post. They were with the lazy worker in Carolina and then brought him to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think the reaction is more like "Finally!" rather than "Great move!" Every GM in the league is gonna make mistakes. The difference is whether and when they realize it and move on. And you can't have a guy who is dogging it like KB on the team. Not and be taken seriously as a coach when you speak of effort. I think the comp pick is a non issue. If we spend a fraction of our cap space on free agents, no comp pick. this. obv beane thought he would be productive enough to warrant the compensation he had atleast shown in carolina the ability to be competent 70 catches 800-900 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ths the charm Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 hours ago, 1963Billsfan7 said: Do we get the comp pick yes or no Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Domdab99 said: Yesterday, McDermott was asked about Allen's INT and he said Allen got fooled, but "we're going to have to trim some of the fat off that route" run by Kelvin Benjamin. Well, the Bills just trimmed that fat. don't get too comfortable Charles you're next. Somewhere Brandon Reilly is saying "really"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stowellez Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I love this move. Agree with most, this was way overdue. My concern now is this: Is Zay Jones a #1 WR? Does it matter at this point in the season? Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I wish they’d have just made him inactive the rest of the season. Letting him go and potentially being picked up by a team heading to the playoffs is exactly what he wanted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, MDH said: I wish they’d have just made him inactive the rest of the season. Letting him go and potentially being picked up by a team heading to the playoffs is exactly what he wanted. It may be what he wanted. It may even be what he'll get. Whether he'll be able to help that team and prove himself is another issue. Dogging it gets to be a habit, just like anything else a fella keeps doing. Remember when we were all stressed that "Super Mario" went to Miami and would be revitalized into the Big Bad Wolf to eat our little lambkins? The Mario Williams who had 13 tackles and 1.5 sacks in 13 games for the 'Phins and was out of the league the following year? Yeah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It may be what he wanted. It may even be what he'll get. Whether he'll be able to help that team and prove himself is another issue. Dogging it gets to be a habit, just like anything else a fella keeps doing. Remember when we were all stressed that "Super Mario" went to Miami and would be revitalized into the Big Bad Wolf to eat our little lambkins? The Mario Williams who had 13 tackles and 1.5 sacks in 13 games for the 'Phins and was out of the league the following year? Yeah. I mean it is possible he gets pissed because of this and plays better for someone else because he sure wasn't playing with any emotion here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Joeziehmer said: We just ate his contract in a tight cap year. last year on his contract anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Now we know they will be adding like crazy in FA since they had a chance at a comp pick before they released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 48 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: What kind of stupid take is that by Massare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 29 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: don't get too comfortable Charles you're next. Somewhere Brandon Reilly is saying "really"? I believe the Brandon Reilly and Wyatt Teller fan clubs are meeting somewhere tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He's been doing it all season. What made Miami different? Probably some kind of McDermott KB private pep-talk before the Miami game that went like, "if you give up or loaf on one more route, or alligator-arm one more pass you chicken-s##t, you're out of here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GG said: What kind of stupid take is that by Massare? One that means the Bills were willing to spend more to get rid of him instead of just riding it out for cheaper. Edited December 5, 2018 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: One that means the Bills were willing to spend more to get rid of him instead of riding it out. And exactly how did they spend more in releasing them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: One that means the Bills were willing to spend more to get rid of him instead of riding it out. Moot point though since it the money doesnt matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 5:28 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: This guy looks slow, does not make plays for his QB not to mention he has compete and focus issues. No way I sign him to a big deal. Finally!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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