Hit Man #47 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 If a team wins the superbowl- does a year long holdout get a ring?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 minute ago, "Hit Man" # 46 said: If a team wins the superbowl- does a year long holdout get a ring?? I doubt it. No contract signed = not on the team as far as I can tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I doubt it. No contract signed = not on the team as far as I can tell. I believe this is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 It would be up to ownership. They are allowed so many rings and have to pay more for extras I believe. So it would most likely be a no for someone like Bell who’s just being an @$$hole. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, "Hit Man" # 46 said: If a team wins the superbowl- does a year long holdout get a ring?? 14 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I doubt it. No contract signed = not on the team as far as I can tell. If the OP is referring to Bell, he was never a member of the 2018 Steelers as he never signed his franchise tag. No ring. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 This thread is a real Bell-ringer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, mrags said: It would be up to ownership. They are allowed so many rings and have to pay more for extras I believe. So it would most likely be a no for someone like Bell who’s just being an @$$hole. Correct here, owners can give anyone in the world they want a ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 They ain't winning the Superbowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: They ain't winning the Superbowl Probably not, not with KC and NE in the mix, but the Steelers are playing very well lately, so you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: They ain't winning the Superbowl Wouldnt bet against them, Vegas has them 8-1 to win it, that is the 5th highest, the Bills are a mere 10,000 to 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Rings are paid for by the owners. They decide who on the team gets them. It's just a tradition. There's nothing in the CBA that says they have to give them to players/coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Wouldnt bet against them, Vegas has them 8-1 to win it, that is the 5th highest, the Bills are a mere 10,000 to 1. Bills ain't winning it either! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, "Hit Man" # 46 said: If a team wins the superbowl- does a year long holdout get a ring?? Of course, someone should call him..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 The Eagles gave their longsnapper a ring after they traded him to New Orleans last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Each sport seems to have its own code. Baseball players are notoriously buttwipes when they give out bonuses and awards to non-players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Wouldnt bet against them, Vegas has them 8-1 to win it, that is the 5th highest, the Bills are a mere 10,000 to 1. The Steelers were my guess before the season. Unfortunately, I had the Packers on the other side, and that’s not looking great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Utah John said: Probably not, not with KC and NE in the mix, but the Steelers are playing very well lately, so you never know. I don't think they can win the Super Bowl with even Chargers or the Texans in the mix. I am not trying to denigrate your response, UJ, I just really think that although they are winning often, like the Patriots, they are going on fumes. I think they are very beatable when push comes to shove time. Case in point last year, J'Ville had no business doing what they did to them in the post season, in Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 He didn't hold out, he wasn't under contract. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 6 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: They ain't winning the Superbowl Who knows. This year is the first in a while where there are more than a few legit SB teams. KC, Pitt, NE, NO, LAR, even LAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Like most things, you have to be PRESENT to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 10 hours ago, "Hit Man" # 46 said: If a team wins the superbowl- does a year long holdout get a ring?? I would mail him a cubic zirconia in aluminum setting replica...…….lol 4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: He didn't hold out, he wasn't under contract. semantics maybe, but a very good point nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 10 hours ago, Utah John said: Probably not, not with KC and NE in the mix, but the Steelers are playing very well lately, so you never know. Especially their OL and DL . The trenches become even more crucial in Dec/Jan and Pitt probably has the best OL in the game and a very very good DL. They definitely are legit contenders imo. NE is very beatable and KC just seems to collapse in the post season under Reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: He didn't hold out, he wasn't under contract. Sure he did. They offered the tag deal but he held out for a long term deal that didn’t happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Sure he did. They offered the tag deal but he held out for a long term deal that didn’t happen So....he wasn’t under contract. Right? Holding out under contract is different from not agreeing to a tag deal, as I understand it. He never signed the deal, so he wasn’t holding out. Right? He just wasn’t on the team, and since I pointed it out first I get his ring! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Over/under - 100 page sign Le'Veon Bell thread this off-season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 12 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Correct here, owners can give anyone in the world they want a ring Even Putin... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 15 hours ago, "Hit Man" # 46 said: If a team wins the superbowl- does a year long holdout get a ring?? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Augie said: So....he wasn’t under contract. Right? Holding out under contract is different from not agreeing to a tag deal, as I understand it. He never signed the deal, so he wasn’t holding out. Right? He just wasn’t on the team, and since I pointed it out first I get his ring! I agree no ring but one can ‘hold out’ for a better deal. I didn’t understand why holding out has to only apply if under contract. I believe you can hold out under contract or hold out for a better contract. You said he he wasn’t holding out.... that’s all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 18 hours ago, row_33 said: Each sport seems to have its own code. Baseball players are notoriously buttwipes when they give out bonuses and awards to non-players. I believe they are notorious buttwipes. That's totally feasible! But what's buttwipey about giving bonuses and awards to your janitors and team staff and such? Or are they just getting an excuse to just hand out money indiscriminately to anybody? 7 hours ago, KD in CA said: Even Putin... .. hehe of course.. good hustle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I agree no ring but one can ‘hold out’ for a better deal. I didn’t understand why holding out has to only apply if under contract. I believe you can hold out under contract or hold out for a better contract. You said he he wasn’t holding out.... that’s all I guess the distinction is are you under contract? Either way, I say if you never bother to show up.....no ring for you! That’s just me. But I suppose there may be instances where a team might make an exception, if only to unruffle feathers to smooth out the path going forward. A goodwill gesture , if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: I believe they are notorious buttwipes. That's totally feasible! But what's buttwipey about giving bonuses and awards to your janitors and team staff and such? Or are they just getting an excuse to just hand out money indiscriminately to anybody? .. hehe of course.. good hustle. The Red Sox have often cut out the Fenway grounds crew for bonus money from the playoffs, keeping it for the players themselves. A totally jackass thing to do to salaried people doing the best they can. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 20 hours ago, Soda Popinski said: The Eagles gave their longsnapper a ring after they traded him to New Orleans last year. Yes but he failed physical hence was still an Eagle. 9 hours ago, KD in CA said: Even Putin... Putin worked for P*ts providing technical and planning support on spying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, row_33 said: The Red Sox have often cut out the Fenway grounds crew for bonus money from the playoffs, keeping it for the players themselves. A totally jackass thing to do to salaried people doing the best they can. Oh they keep it away from them. Yeah. Buttwipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Oh they keep it away from them. Yeah. Buttwipes. yup, trainers and ground crews are often cut out of World Series bonus money. baseball is the most selfish of all pro sports, you can't get deservedly punched by an opponent and you can be totally for yourself and get in the Hall of Fame Edited November 16, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 41 minutes ago, Augie said: I guess the distinction is are you under contract? Either way, I say if you never bother to show up.....no ring for you! That’s just me. But I suppose there may be instances where a team might make an exception, if only to unruffle feathers to smooth out the path going forward. A goodwill gesture , if you will. no ring. I’d rather Shazier get two 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 21 hours ago, Soda Popinski said: The Eagles gave their longsnapper a ring after they traded him to New Orleans last year. That's cool of them, but I'd actually feel guilty wearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, The Real Buffalo Joe said: That's cool of them, but I'd actually feel guilty wearing it. He had a giant aneurysm in his heart and could have died if the Saints doctors hadn't found it. If I were him I'd gladly wear the ring. If he had stayed with the Eagles he probably would have died. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: He had a giant aneurysm in his heart and could have died if the Saints doctors hadn't found it. If I were him I'd gladly wear the ring. If he had stayed with the Eagles he probably would have died. Ah. Didn't hear that whole story. That's pretty cool then. I've read a few stories about GM's mother's names being crossed off the Stanley Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: That's cool of them, but I'd actually feel guilty wearing it. understood, but they can do whatever they want to with their views on the matter.... lots of greats have not participated in the championship stretch and paraded around with the trophy and glitter, which is fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: He had a giant aneurysm in his heart and could have died if the Saints doctors hadn't found it. If I were him I'd gladly wear the ring. If he had stayed with the Eagles he probably would have died. Woah. Lucky for him. He was also at least part of the team at a point in the run. i don’t think I’ve ever heard of a long snapper trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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