ShipUPride Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 In the 24 games since McDermott got here... we have started the following QBs: Tyrod Taylor - 14 Games Nathan Peterman - 5 Games (after this week) Josh Allen - 3 Games Derek Anderson - 2 Games Joe Webb - 0 Games (Played in 1) AJ McCarron - 0 Games Matt Barkley - 0 Games Nothing that hasn't been stated already, but this is downright unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Respect the Process! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) "1 of 11" Edited October 31, 2018 by WRONG JOSH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 McD has a sharp eye for offensive talent 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, JPP said: McD has a sharp eye for offensive talent Very offensive I'd say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Say what you want about clearing cap space, trusting "the process", tanking and rebuilding, etc... I'm not sure how this position could be more mismanaged or get any worse than it is right now. This cannot reflect well on McDermott at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Can’t wait to see Peterman again. He might be a diamond in the rough 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 So what was the correct course of action? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, MJS said: So what was the correct course of action? In hindsight? Pushing hard to sign Teddy Bridgewater and using all that draft capital to improve the OL and WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, MJS said: So what was the correct course of action? Definitely the one they took...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, MJS said: So what was the correct course of action? Keep McCarron or get a veteran after training camp. Peterman was way too risky to keep with Allen as the two quarterbacks on the roster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Can’t wait to see Peterman again. He might be a diamond in the rough You just cant give up on those day 3 QB picks too early, that's where the true franchise guys are found.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, sullim4 said: Keep McCarron or get a veteran after training camp. Peterman was way too risky to keep with Allen as the two quarterbacks on the roster. McCarron was pretty bad. Which veteran would you have brought in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShipUPride Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, st pete gogolak said: In hindsight? Pushing hard to sign Teddy Bridgewater and using all that draft capital to improve the OL and WR. IMO, without using hindsight (if that is possible) Year 1: Start the incumbent (Taylor), sign a solid #2 and keep Nathan on the Practice Squad. Year 2: Cut Taylor, Draft Josh, Re-sign the #2 from 2017 if he played well, otherwise replace with another solid #QB. Promote Nathan from PS to be your #2. Go into season with 3 QB's, one of which has 32+ games experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, MJS said: McCarron was pretty bad. Which veteran would you have brought in? Worse than Peterman? Peterman's track record in regular season games was abysmal. I think you had to keep McCarron until Peterman proved that he could go a quarter without throwing an interception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, ShipUPride said: In the 24 games since McDermott got here... we have started the following QBs: Tyrod Taylor - 14 Games Nathan Peterman - 5 Games (after this week) Josh Allen - 3 Games Derek Anderson - 2 Games Joe Webb - 0 Games (Played in 1) AJ McCarron - 0 Games Matt Barkley - 0 Games Nothing that hasn't been stated already, but this is downright unbelievable. So when McDermott inevitably gets fired he has a QB coach job as he seems to be a QB guru coach in the making. Definite eye for QB talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, ShipUPride said: In the 24 games since McDermott got here... we have started the following QBs: Tyrod Taylor - 14 Games Nathan Peterman - 5 Games (after this week) Josh Allen - 3 Games Derek Anderson - 2 Games Joe Webb - 0 Games (Played in 1) AJ McCarron - 0 Games Matt Barkley - 0 Games Nothing that hasn't been stated already, but this is downright unbelievable. just a note on just how inept this organization has been, here is a list of the qb's after Fitz and before Tyrod. Leinart Flynn Jackson Manuel Lewis Tuel Orton Palmer oye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 25 minutes ago, ShipUPride said: In the 24 games since McDermott got here... we have started the following QBs: Tyrod Taylor - 14 Games Nathan Peterman - 5 Games (after this week) Josh Allen - 3 Games Derek Anderson - 2 Games Joe Webb - 0 Games (Played in 1) AJ McCarron - 0 Games Matt Barkley - 0 Games Nothing that hasn't been stated already, but this is downright unbelievable. I'm not a fan of McClappy at all. That being said, except for a few isolated moments from Bledsoe and Fitzy, the same can be said for every other HC and QB here in Buffalo since Kelly retired. It's the nightmare that won't end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: You just cant give up on those day 3 QB picks too early, that's where the true franchise guys are found.... You can’t fairly judge Peterman yet given what he has to work with. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Foxx said: just a note on just how inept this organization has been, here is a list of the qb's after Fitz and before Tyrod. Leinart Flynn Jackson Manuel Lewis Tuel Orton Palmer oye! These don't matter in that it wasn't McD or Beane or even the Pegulas in charge. This year has been bad enough LOL 5 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: I'm not a fan of McClappy at all. That being said, except for a few isolated moments from Bledsoe and Fitzy, the same can be said for every other HC and QB here in Buffalo since Kelly retired. It's the nightmare that won't end. Well I am of the opinion Allen can be quite good! But a team still needs a least one decent backup. Anderson as a mentor was also a late but good addition. Injuries compounded the bad stuff. Edited October 31, 2018 by Jerome007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I think you have Allen and Peterman flipped. Allen has started 5 games, Peterman has started 3 and may start his 4th on Sunday. Also, while we're at it, the team when each starts: TT: 8-6 JA: 2-3 NP: 1-2 DA: 0-2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 You really do set yourself up for dissappointment if you think this team was in a win-now mode. It never was. That is why they got rid of Tyrod. This was about pushing through and developing Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Can’t wait to see Peterman again. He might be a diamond in the rough Haven’t you noticed the extra zip he has on his passes this year? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 25 minutes ago, ShipUPride said: In the 24 games since McDermott got here... we have started the following QBs: Tyrod Taylor - 14 Games Nathan Peterman - 5 Games (after this week) Josh Allen - 3 Games Derek Anderson - 2 Games Joe Webb - 0 Games (Played in 1) AJ McCarron - 0 Games Matt Barkley - 0 Games Nothing that hasn't been stated already, but this is downright unbelievable. And to add to the point, in 24 regular season games under McD, here are the game counts by yardage for the high passer: 300+ yds: 0 250-299 yds: 3 (Taylor-2, Anderson-1) 200-249 yds: 6 (Taylor-5, Allen-1) 100-199 yds: 9 (Taylor-6, Allen-2, Anderson-1) <100 yds: 6 (Taylor-1, Peterman-2, Allen-3) Are you kidding me?! 21 sub 250 yd games and 6 under 100. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 34 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Can’t wait to see Peterman again. He might be a diamond in the rough With our crap offensive roster, it really is a shame what they've done to poor Nate Peterman. Put this guy on the Chiefs and he'd be shattering records. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 21 minutes ago, Bangarang said: You can’t fairly judge Peterman yet given what he has to work with. Well he did have that amazing pedigree and track record to hang tour hat on knowing he very well will one day become a franchise QB. It's not like his scouting report had him as being a 'Backup QB' at best. The Browns probably wouldn't have draft Mayfield this year if the Bill's would have only let them have Peterman instead of Taylor.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 41 minutes ago, sullim4 said: Say what you want about clearing cap space, trusting "the process", tanking and rebuilding, etc... I'm not sure how this position could be more mismanaged or get any worse than it is right now. This cannot reflect well on McDermott at all. It's wearisome listening to all the negativity on this site. It used to be a great place for meaningful dialog but it's sadly turning into a place where people overreact and make overly critical statements but never a solution. So I would really appreciate hearing specifically what would you have done differently this season considering our cap situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 9-7 + 2-6 = 11-13 not counting playoffs. Offense has gotten worse, not better. Mainly attributed to bottom of the league futility at the QB position. Edited October 31, 2018 by Dr.Sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Can’t wait to see Peterman again. He might be a diamond in the rough He looked great in pre season..;) Edited October 31, 2018 by billsfan11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 49 minutes ago, MJS said: So what was the correct course of action? Play Tyrod until someone was better. So far no one is better than Tyrod. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 SHOILDVE TRADED FER RODGERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, ShipUPride said: In the 24 games since McDermott got here... we have started the following QBs: Tyrod Taylor - 14 Games Nathan Peterman - 5 Games (after this week) Josh Allen - 3 Games Derek Anderson - 2 Games Joe Webb - 0 Games (Played in 1) AJ McCarron - 0 Games Matt Barkley - 0 Games Nothing that hasn't been stated already, but this is downright unbelievable. I am confused. Why did you say STARTED but then list Joe Webb, AJ McCarron and Matt Barkley as starting 0 games ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: It's wearisome listening to all the negativity on this site. It used to be a great place for meaningful dialog but it's sadly turning into a place where people overreact and make overly critical statements but never a solution. So I would really appreciate hearing specifically what would you have done differently this season considering our cap situation. Well not putting yourself into this poor cap situation might be the first thing. Keeping some talent around and build off of it instead of dumping everyone and having to bring in your own guys. What is there to be positive about if your not drinking the Koolaid that "everything will be alright, the process will right the ship!"? Its negative around here because there very little to actually be positive about with this team right now and things are getting worse and not better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 McCarron, Allen and Edward's all got hurt after less 3 full games.......I don't know.....maybe upgrade the O line?....nah!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: It's wearisome listening to all the negativity on this site. It used to be a great place for meaningful dialog but it's sadly turning into a place where people overreact and make overly critical statements but never a solution. So I would really appreciate hearing specifically what would you have done differently this season considering our cap situation. How about not putting us in this cap situation to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Chemical said: How about not putting us in this cap situation to begin with? Whaley is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: Whaley is gone. he didn't create all this dead cap. Also, the dead cap excuse isn't even a good reason to have Nate Peterman. Edited October 31, 2018 by Chemical 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Well not putting yourself into this poor cap situation might be the first thing. Keeping some talent around and build off of it instead of dumping everyone and having to bring in your own guys. What is there to be positive about if your not drinking the Koolaid that "everything will be alright, the process will right the ship!"? Its negative around here because there very little to actually be positive about with this team right now and things are getting worse and not better. Who was dumped that should have been kept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 44 minutes ago, sullim4 said: Worse than Peterman? Peterman's track record in regular season games was abysmal. I think you had to keep McCarron until Peterman proved that he could go a quarter without throwing an interception. In hindsight, yes. But Peterman appeared to be better than McCarron in the preseason. 11 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Play Tyrod until someone was better. So far no one is better than Tyrod. I can see that, although getting a 3rd for Tyrod was pretty good value, especially since he went to the Browns and sucked bad enough to get benched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Chemical said: he didn't create all this dead cap Whaley is the one who signed all those high-priced players to bloated, back-loaded contracts. McBeane is cleaning up the mess so the team can actually have a future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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