YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Namely, the Patriots have played some embarrassing defense of late. And something's not right about it. And you can start with this: they're getting worse, not better. Only one other Belichick team has given up more than the 95 points allowed by these Patriots in three-straight games. That was the 2005 version, which allowed 97 in Weeks 4-6 against the Chargers (41), Falcons (28) and Broncos (28). The Patriots went 1-2 during that stretch. These guys went 3-0. That's the influence of the new NFL for you. We know how that season went. The Patriots went 10-6, had to play in the wild-card round (a whole generation of New England fans have no idea what that is) and lost at Denver in a divisional game. No one is expecting that to happen because, again, defense is somewhat optional in today's NFL. But it doesn't mean it should be going on. It shouldn't. How it has been happening has sent some distressing signals, and Sunday was a microcosm of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 No pass rush is the issue.. but seriously, the chiefs scored a ton and the Bears got 2 TD on short fields so as a Pats fan I’m not worried about the D that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Points have been scored at an all time high, everywhere but Buffalo & AZ. I'm sure a lot of teams will have similar stats. Either way I'd take the team with the better offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Even still......this offense can barely make 3 points on any given Sunday....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: FAKE NEWS!!!!!! Dont give people false hope Yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 So what you're saying is that our horrible offense is gonna give New England's Defense hope, cuz we're still not scoring more than 10 points on them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 The Colts also have a bad defense. How did that turn out for us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Bad defense as of late? How did that article not mention the other team in the picture? Bears past 2 teams: gave up 920 yards, 69 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Circlethewagon8404 said: So what you're saying is that our horrible offense is gonna give New England's Defense hope, cuz we're still not scoring more than 10 points on them. I’m not really saying anything ... it’s just the current storyline with the Pats that their defense is worse than its ever been under BB. We all know about our offense. 8 minutes ago, MJS said: The Colts also have a bad defense. How did that turn out for us? Clearly not saying the Bills will have success. Geez. This is the story in NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Two games against this offense will correct their stats. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m not really saying anything ... it’s just the current storyline with the Pats that their defense is worse than its ever been under BB. We all know about our offense. Clearly not saying the Bills will have success. Geez. This is the story in NE. Just sarcasm! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 42 minutes ago, MJS said: The Colts also have a bad defense. How did that turn out for us? Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Who cares. We can’t score anyway. Makes no difference. Offense trumps defense any day in the modern game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Unless our defense can hold them to a field goal all game, their historically bad defense won't matter. And in reference to their "historically bad" defense, it's only comparing it to their own franchise. Our "historically bad" offense on the other hand is bad on an actual league-wide historical level....not just our own franchise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Unless our defense can hold them to a field goal all game, their historically bad defense won't matter. And in reference to their "historically bad" defense, it's only comparing it to their own franchise. Our "historically bad" offense on the other hand is bad on an actual league-wide historical level....not just our own franchise. That’s why the thread says Historically bad defense (For Pats) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 The Pats* Defense isn’t very good, but the Bills will be the tonic for them as most every other defense. A bad defense doesn’t matter much in the NFL anymore, thanks to the various rule changes. The days of an elite defense neutralizing an great offense have been legislated out of the league. My only hope is that sometime in the near future, Bills ownership takes note of this and hires their GM accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That’s why the thread says Historically bad defense (For Pats) Oh I’m liking their worst efforts ? % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 How sad this can be? Here is a MNF in Buffalo, and everyone is depressed and has given up - me too BTW for the first time in years. I hope the players take upon themselves to shine. A Win against the damn Patriots would still be sweet. Without Josh and most likely Shady, damn this has lost of its allure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Optimism : our offense will have many 3 and outs.....more snaps for Marcia....higher probability of getting injured when you are on the field more Problem: Marcia Braidy will be handing off more in the second half...so you have to hit her even on hand-offs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Pats defense hasn't been that good in awhile, despite the GENIUS in there. All that smug old Bill had to do was put a tiny bit of pressure on Foles and his team wins the superbowl last year. Legitimately wins, not like Pete Carroll or Shanahan trying to get cute and pass the ball when a run wins the trophy. Think he missed Chandler Jones and his 17 sacks last year? How about this year, Jones already has 6.5 and tons of pressures. Bill the GM sucks and I love it. hahahahaha Bill do another press conference so we can watch you squirm you weasel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 12 hours ago, JPP said: Even still......this offense can barely make 3 points on any given Sunday....... Good thing the games on Monday night then! (It’s not a given Sunday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 The Patriots historically bad d is better than the Colts d that the Bills scored a whopping 5 points on. It's going to be a long Monday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Good thing the games on Monday night then! (It’s not a given Sunday) Well ok technically.....this is worse....Bills are even worse on MNF (well with the exception of that one game few years ago when they came very close to beating the patsies----the mckelvon drop)..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 57 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: Pats defense hasn't been that good in awhile, despite the GENIUS in there. All that smug old Bill had to do was put a tiny bit of pressure on Foles and his team wins the superbowl last year. Legitimately wins, not like Pete Carroll or Shanahan trying to get cute and pass the ball when a run wins the trophy. Think he missed Chandler Jones and his 17 sacks last year? How about this year, Jones already has 6.5 and tons of pressures. Bill the GM sucks and I love it. hahahahaha Bill do another press conference so we can watch you squirm you weasel. I would love to suck as bad as a GM as BB has, how is the guy still in the league? Doesnt he know the true measure of success is how much dead cap space you can obtain and getting the 1st overall pick? Who uses SBs and Lombardi trophies to measure success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Avon Lake now Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I get your point Yolo and strange things have happened to good teams this year. OSU got run over by Purdue and Bills beat Vikings at home, so maybe Bills can pull a miraculous upset somehow with the home crowd and Anderson playing lights out with Ivory running all over the Patsies. Its almost Halloween! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: I would love to suck as bad as a GM as BB has, how is the guy still in the league? Doesnt he know the true measure of success is how much dead cap space you can obtain and getting the 1st overall pick? Who uses SBs and Lombardi trophies to measure success? Yeah so following that logic, Barry Switzer was an amazing coach and Don Shula sucked right? My point is the guy has Brady who needs zero coaching, his job is GM and defense and he's not done a very good job at either one. Brady got 500+ yards of offense in the superbowl and Bill couldn't even win with that. So overrated. Good halftime adjuster and overall a good coach, but not magic by any means. Do you remember how they scored zero points against us in Foxboro last year without Brady? Now that's a GENIUS for ya. Edited October 23, 2018 by Da webster guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 The Pat's historically bad D was a storyline last year too, but they usually fix it around this time of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Can we just do what they did in the movie “Troy”? Just send out our toughest guy to go head to head with theirs and the one that survives gives their squad the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 59 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: Yeah so following that logic, Barry Switzer was an amazing coach and Don Shula sucked right? My point is the guy has Brady who needs zero coaching, his job is GM and defense and he's not done a very good job at either one. Brady got 500+ yards of offense in the superbowl and Bill couldn't even win with that. So overrated. Good halftime adjuster and overall a good coach, but not magic by any means. Do you remember how they scored zero points against us in Foxboro last year without Brady? Now that's a GENIUS for ya. Ok you were facing a 3rd string QB who was playing with a broken thumb!! Funny thing is if he doesn’t fumble (caused by broken thumb) the game is close and who knows maybe the Bills puke all over themselves. People give Brady all the credit but BB and his staff saw the talent to draft him and then keep him as a 4th string QB his first year. BB knows QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Careful now, you’re setting up the narrative for the fire everyone crowd just in case the Bills pull out a win, to cheapen its significance ? 34 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said: The Pat's historically bad D was a storyline last year too, but they usually fix it around this time of the season. No Matt Patricia ladling in that soup this year though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 42 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said: The Pat's historically bad D was a storyline last year too, but they usually fix it around this time of the season. They are slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Da webster guy said: Yeah so following that logic, Barry Switzer was an amazing coach and Don Shula sucked right? My point is the guy has Brady who needs zero coaching, his job is GM and defense and he's not done a very good job at either one. Brady got 500+ yards of offense in the superbowl and Bill couldn't even win with that. So overrated. Good halftime adjuster and overall a good coach, but not magic by any means. Do you remember how they scored zero points against us in Foxboro last year without Brady? Now that's a GENIUS for ya. The guys is (unfortunately) going to go down as one of the greatest coaches in NFL history, even without Brady he has won (remember Casels season?) Games. No one, ever, is going to win all the time, but to think he is over rated and not good is asinine, even for anyone who cant stand the guy (like me). You can still be great without winning a championship, but it's near impossible to be bad or overrated and win as much as he has. Brady is only one guy who plays only half the game, you cant win on just one guy alone, ask Manning, Luck, Brees, Roger's, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Careful now, you’re setting up the narrative for the fire everyone crowd just in case the Bills pull out a win, to cheapen its significance ? No Matt Patricia ladling in that soup this year though Umm the Pats Run D is top 10 the last 4 games. The issue on D is lack of consistent pressure on the QB and getting the sack. (I think the Pats are last or next to last in sacks) the O has been sloppy, most of it is on poor hands at times. (Both Indy INT went either threw the WE hands or was knocked out after 2 steps..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Sounds like our offense is just the remedy needed for the Pats*** defense. Uncanny how often teams get well against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I think this will be another "no name RB runs all over us game". Kenjon Barner this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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