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5 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

 

I'm saying it's a non story, we needed a better QB, which we never had at the time. And Tyrod is being human expressing his frustration at Buffalo's disorganization.

I didn't click on the link, and not sure what prompted the comment by Tyrod either way, and I am not sticking up for him nor condemning him. But fans who B word about this kind of stuff often act like the player is just a whiny baby and called a press conference to announce his grievance from something two years ago, and can't just let it go. When nine times out of ten the player isn't thinking about that topic at all, but is asked about it out of nowhere by a reporter, and then just gives an honest answer to the question on the spot.

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Just now, Gugny said:

 

His benching in 2016 was a sound business decision.  Everyone, including him, should have known that.

Sidestepping dude. He wanted to play and win and not watch crap on the field.. me as well lol. 

 

Bills did their thing, good business decision, sure. Tyrod didn't care. How many times do I repeat we really shouldn't give a **** what he's saying, and that we can can side with either or because it doesn't matter

1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I didn't click on the link, and not sure what prompted the comment by Tyrod either way, and I am not sticking up for him nor condemning him. But fans who B word about this kind of stuff often act like the player is just a whiny baby and called a press conference to announce his grievance from something two years ago, and can't just let it go. When nine times out of ten the player isn't thinking about that topic at all, but is asked about it out of nowhere by a reporter, and then just gives an honest answer to the question on the spot.

Thank you. ALL I am saying. Now I have to go down some bills Tyrod backup history rabbit hole.

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Just now, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Sidestepping dude. He wanted to play and win and not watch crap on the field.. me as well lol. 

 

Bills did their thing, good business decision, sure. Tyrod didn't care. How many times do I repeat we really shouldn't give a **** what he's saying, and that we can can side with either or because it doesn't matter

 

It was crap on the field when he was in.  It was just crappier when he wasn't.  That's usually the case when a team throws an unprepared rookie QB in.

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Just now, Lfod said:

I wish Tyrod would talk about his performance in the playoffs more. That was his biggest missed opportunity of them all.

 

He'd just blame it on being black or the coaches or the playcalling ..... he will never take ownership of his own ineptitude.

 

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So are you mad at Tyrod for what he said per OP? Cause my only point is literally "sure, I can see him PERSONALLY being justifiably upset.. that's my opinion.

6 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

It was crap on the field when he was in.  It was just crappier when he wasn't.  That's usually the case when a team throws an unprepared rookie QB in.

^meant to quote you to clarify my post

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4 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I didn't click on the link, and not sure what prompted the comment by Tyrod either way, and I am not sticking up for him nor condemning him. But fans who B word about this kind of stuff often act like the player is just a whiny baby and called a press conference to announce his grievance from something two years ago, and can't just let it go. When nine times out of ten the player isn't thinking about that topic at all, but is asked about it out of nowhere by a reporter, and then just gives an honest answer to the question on the spot.

As someone who did click on the link, it was an interview/selfpromo type deal with an outfit called Uninterrupted. They appear to be an original content distributor with a focus on professional athletes' interviews/podcasts. From the level of production I am fairly certain it was rehearsed and meant to frame the topic in a particular light. I doubt he's under any contractual obligation to provide them interviews...his answer certainly wasn't some press conference ad lib.

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1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

As someone who did click on the link, it was an interview/selfpromo type deal with an outfit called Uninterrupted. They appear to be an original content distributor with a focus on professional athletes' interviews/podcasts. From the level of production I am fairly certain it was rehearsed and meant to frame the topic in a particular light. I doubt he's under any contractual obligation to provide them interviews...his answer certainly wasn't some press conference ad lib.

I still don't really care to listen and get riled up about our last quarterback after seeing what went down.

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1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

As someone who did click on the link, it was an interview/selfpromo type deal with an outfit called Uninterrupted. They appear to be an original content distributor with a focus on professional athletes' interviews/podcasts. From the level of production I am fairly certain it was rehearsed and meant to frame the topic in a particular light. I doubt he's under any contractual obligation to provide them interviews...his answer certainly wasn't some press conference ad lib.

Thanks.

 

That does sound, from your description, that they wanted him to talk about it, and get some reaction, rather than him looking for someone he can whine to.

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14 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I didn't click on the link, and not sure what prompted the comment by Tyrod either way, and I am not sticking up for him nor condemning him. But fans who B word about this kind of stuff often act like the player is just a whiny baby and called a press conference to announce his grievance from something two years ago, and can't just let it go. When nine times out of ten the player isn't thinking about that topic at all, but is asked about it out of nowhere by a reporter, and then just gives an honest answer to the question on the spot.

 

I agree, a lot of times quotes out of context and the player was asked explicitly and just answered.

 

On the other hand, the QB "face of the franchise" is expected to perhaps have a bit more savvy at dealing with the media, and I think it would have been "best practice" for TT to channel a bit of Belicheck with some "my focus is on this team and this season" "on to Pittsburgh" etc etc

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1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

It's the topic of this thread. That's why I clicked it.

Fair enough lol. I just know it's not going to change my mind that I agree with what he said and the Bills made the right decision per their prerogitive.

 

Trying to curb the Tyrod hate. I thought he wasn't treated very well with the crap quarterback situation we were in anyway.

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1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Thanks.

 

That does sound, from your description, that they wanted him to talk about it, and get some reaction, rather than him looking for someone he can whine to.

I just dispute the entire notion that he was somehow hard done by the Bills.

 

He was plucked off Baltimore's backup squad by one of the most disappointing HCs we've had in a long time and subsequently installed as starter. After going through 2 offensive coordinators (one in Roman who I still consider having done a very fine job) in 1 and 15/16s seasons , he gets benched for one meaningless game due to a contract situation. 

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1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Former disgruntled guys dislike HC who let them go isn't that big a deal. As to who doesn't like playing for McD now...it ain't K. Williams, Hyde, Poyer, White, Edmunds, or Phillips. Not Allen, Benjamin, Dawkins, either. 

 

So if the issue is that guys like McCoy or Clay or Washington don't like the staff, who cares. They aren't in the future plans anyway. Good riddance imo. 

 

I think one of those you mention is on the list. 

1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said:

JERRY? VONTAE?  SHAQ?

 

See you only needed one guess. 

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Another who could give a **** less article about a qb who isn’t here, a coach who isn’t here, and a gm who isn’t here. Might as well be about another team. I can’t stand these what-if, has been nonsense posts. Moving rt along...

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4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

No, not Whaley. It is a few players, some that are there and some that are gone. McDermott doesn’t have buy in from everyone. There are some guys that HATE him.

You can choose to believe me or not. I really don’t care. I think those that have been here a while will vouch that my information has always been credible. 

Thanks for the feedback, I thought you were speaking of SM but reading some other comments thought I missed it. 

 

SM is far too rigid, demanding and process-oriented to be beloved by 53 guys, plus anyone else who may have passed through the clubhouse. Hell his faith alone will make him a target for some people who see the world differently, think it's hokey or even bs.  I think when you're the guy expected to lead a professional sports team defined by: guys with passion for the game playing at a high level, guys with the talent to be special walking through the motions, the ego(s) some of these insanely athletic guys must have after what probably is decades of being the best athlete around, the mix of well-heeled guys and hard scrabble guys from the streets, the perpetual threat of serious, catastrophic and career-ending injury virtually every time you suit up, the natural tension between management and the players/union...and toss in a whole boatload of $$$$, it's just bound to happen. 

 

It it just makes sense, really. And to sum it all up, one guy's truth is often another guy's lie.  

 

Almost forgot...Tyrod had every chance under the sun to lock down that spot, no questions asked, big money to follow and he simply did not do it.  The fact that the coaching staff had to even consider benching of TT in favor of Peterman tells you all that you need to know.  No hard feelings for me with TT, but he was just almost consistent/good enough to make it close, but not so good as to make it obvious.  Onward. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

I'm going to have to be on tyrod's side. Many called him a class act while in Buffalo, screw it. Let em know the Bills coaching and personnel and EJ investment was annoying. Every time he didn't play the quarterback play dropped immensely. He's aware of it.

And ya don't think that pissed off Tyrod? That's even worse haha

 

How is that even worse?

The entire world knew that he wasn't keeping his current deal, and they were either trading, releasing, or reworking his contract.

If he didn't, then he was in complete denial.

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15 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

How is that even worse?

The entire world knew that he wasn't keeping his current deal, and they were either trading, releasing, or reworking his contract.

If he didn't, then he was in complete denial.

 

I agree with you but there were plenty of people around here in exactly that denial at the time. 

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I believe that Tyrod is better than Peterman and better than he played in Dennison's offense last year. I also believe that Allen will be better than Tyrod will ever be in any offense. I am happy we got Allen, but I would not have minded having Tyrod here this season. 

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8 minutes ago, brianb386 said:

I believe that Tyrod is better than Peterman and better than he played in Dennison's offense last year. I also believe that Allen will be better than Tyrod will ever be in any offense. I am happy we got Allen, but I would not have minded having Tyrod here this season. 

 

He was going to cost something like $14 mil against the cap if we kept him.

Bye Felicia.

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6 hours ago, aceman_16 said:

Okay...  I will bite.  What proof do you have of this?

 

5 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Really?  Because I’ve only heard positive things from players.  Who do you mean?

 

5 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Yep I guess Dunkirk Don shared inside info

Kirby has sources.  He and I share info.  More him than me currently; lost touch with some of the folks I knew as they aren't on the in anymore.

 

Nonetheless, Rico benched Taylor. Rico put his ass on the line and that's why he is fired.  Peterman is a better QB than he played last year but he could be coached I that system. Taylor was livid, even at halftime reaching out to share displeasure.

 

Taylor was done with this team last year and had a bitter taste in his mouth from the **** he has been involved with from Rex Ryan/Anthony Lynn to last year's almost had it moments.

 

Don't believe me, too bad.  Proof is not available.

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11 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

 

 

Kirby has sources.  He and I share info.  More him than me currently; lost touch with some of the folks I knew as they aren't on the in anymore.

 

Nonetheless, Rico benched Taylor. Rico put his ass on the line and that's why he is fired.  Peterman is a better QB than he played last year but he could be coached I that system. Taylor was livid, even at halftime reaching out to share displeasure.

 

Taylor was done with this team last year and had a bitter taste in his mouth from the **** he has been involved with from Rex Ryan/Anthony Lynn to last year's almost had it moments.

 

Don't believe me, too bad.  Proof is not available.

 

McDermott benched Taylor. I totally believe that Rico was the driving force behind the decision. I was talking about Rico and his "scheme arrogance" as far back as last summer when most of the board were seeing rainbows and pots of gold because his offense involves bootlegs and play action. So I never thought he was a fit with Tyrod and I totally buy that he would have gone to McDermott and made the case that Peteman was ready to run the offense more effectively. But ultimately the decision to bench your starting QB is a Head Coach call - no way McDermott said "well I disagree but if you say so...".

 

It was a mistake. My worry is that he may be repeating it. 

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53 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

McDermott benched Taylor. I totally believe that Rico was the driving force behind the decision. I was talking about Rico and his "scheme arrogance" as far back as last summer when most of the board were seeing rainbows and pots of gold because his offense involves bootlegs and play action. So I never thought he was a fit with Tyrod and I totally buy that he would have gone to McDermott and made the case that Peteman was ready to run the offense more effectively. But ultimately the decision to bench your starting QB is a Head Coach call - no way McDermott said "well I disagree but if you say so...".

 

It was a mistake. My worry is that he may be repeating it. 

The way I've been told by 3 people who were in the know - McDermott signed off on it because Rico said it would be better for the team. McDermott trusted his coordinator who was adamant. It's why Rico will be given a short leash anywhere he goes and ultimately might be a big black eye on McDermott in his first chance at HC

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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I reckon most of us could make pretty educated guesses. There is one that I have heard too doesn't get on with McDermott and doesn't get on with Frazier. Not sure it needs a brain surgeon to work out who and I am guessing he is on your list Kirbs. 

 

Darby. That one is obvious. Sammy and Marcell are pretty safe bets too.

He’s on the list

3 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

Not sure how recent your info is. Have you heard anything about what the players think of Allen?

I don’t have anything on that. It seems that he’s a good teammate but I haven’t heard anything one way or another.

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2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He’s on the list

I don’t have anything on that. It seems that he’s a good teammate but I haven’t heard anything one way or another.

Closest I heard is next to nothing. He's just a young rookie who hasn't pulled away from the pack is what I surmised.  He was evidently somewhat bonding with mccarron but I don't know why

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3 hours ago, aceman_16 said:

Fair.  I don't choose to believe the extent you are making it sound like. I am sure there are people that hate him (like those Tyrod lovers when he was benched) and hopefully they get weeded out.  IF he was a tyrant (like you are implying) there is NO way (in my opinion)  that Kyle Williams would stick his neck out for him.

 

BTW,  you can choose to believe me or not I don't care.... but I have a close contact in the Bills' organization and he is more than professional to not air dirty laundry (or any information of note for that matter) out.  It keeps our relationship healthy when we don't talk about work.

 

PS I have been here a while - don't let my new account join date fool ya. Go Bills!

I’m not implying anything. I’m saying some guys don’t like him, some do. One thing to clarify is that it has nothing to do with Tyrod. McDermott never wanted to bench him. Rico thought it was best and McDermott empowered him to do that. He actually apologized to the team after. He owned it publicly as well. That earned a lot of respect for McDermott. He had told some people some things and then acted differently. That was where the issues came from.

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7 hours ago, vorpma said:

I don't have a clue what the basis for this post is, but keep shaking your poms poms for TT!

 

Just that, as bad as it was, it’s about to go back to Trent Edwards, maybe worse. 

 

Let’s  watch tomorrow and then  circle back.

 

maybe I’m missing something 

 

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1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Just that, as bad as it was, it’s about to go back to Trent Edwards, maybe worse. 

 

Let’s  watch tomorrow and then  circle back.

 

maybe I’m missing something 

 

i don't know if i would call it trent edwards-esque. maybe more fitz-like. edwards was just a neverending series of dump offs to the running backs and tight ends at or behind the line of scrimmage. fitz was a quick passing qb that had a lot more determination than ability. say what you want about fitz, the guy did not turtle and did not throw walk out of bounds on 4th and the season five yards short of the sticks.

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3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m not implying anything. I’m saying some guys don’t like him, some do. One thing to clarify is that it has nothing to do with Tyrod. McDermott never wanted to bench him. Rico thought it was best and McDermott empowered him to do that. He actually apologized to the team after. He owned it publicly as well. That earned a lot of respect for McDermott. He had told some people some things and then acted differently. That was where the issues came from.

Fair enough.... I guess sometimes forums/postsdo not convey the information intended.

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