NeckMeat182 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Came accross this article and found it quite interesting. Did not realize McVeigh was a Bills super fan. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/02/how-football-fed-timothy-mcveighs-despair-219625 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I was going to post the link, but as a public service decided not to. Stupidest Bills-related article ever... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Ugh first the shooter in Jacksonville and now this.....this is not the type of publicity the Bills want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckMeat182 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Think of it as a cautinary tale of loving the Bills too much. We all know how we treat people after a loss. Fascinating that sports fandom can have such sway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) They dont call it bills mafia for no reason... The fans are crazy Edited September 2, 2018 by Bronxbomber21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, NeckMeat182 said: Think of it as a cautinary tale of loving the Bills too much. We all know how we treat people after a loss. Fascinating that sports fandom can have such sway. Reading some of the threads here can lead you to the conclusion that a few of us might be wound a bit too tightly...? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 We definitely have a concerning group on this board that can't process criticism of the team and then wallow in despair when the team loses. That is a highly unhealthy combination. It's entertainment.........and a product where you aren't given free-market options.........not realizing this and your right to expect more and be critical of bad results is an invitation to mental illness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 ? This is so sad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 What pushes some over the line to blind hatred of people is beyond me, but I got to believe Bills football isn't one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbillsfan Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 We didn't tear down the goalposts after beating Miami. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty the Dustmop Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 They did that year when they beat Miami to win the AFC East and clinch home field.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Madbillsfan said: We didn't tear down the goalposts after beating Miami. 1980 they did, ended Miami’s 20-0 shellacking of the Bills for the entire 1970s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) What unmitigated horse****. Blaming the Bills for Oklahoma City? !@#$ you Politico and Sam Anderson. Ridiculous angle. If the Bills caused OKC, where are all the other mass murderers from Buffalo in the same time frame? What? There are none? No ****, Sherlock. Edited September 2, 2018 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: The idiots that tore down the goal posts, hoisted sections of them up to the top level of the stadium, and *threw them over the edge* to the ground below... Are you referring to the 1980 Fish game? If so, No, they did not throw them over the top of the stadium. They WANTED to & brought a goalpost up into the upper deck, but security kept them from tossing it over. A couple of other sections of goalpost did make it into the parking lot, but not after being tossed over the stadium. They would've killed someone filing out of the stadium if they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbillsfan Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, row_33 said: 1980 they did, ended Miami’s 20-0 shellacking of the Bills for the entire 1970s Their first chance came in the winter of 1991. The Bills stormed through the playoffs, beating their archrivals—the decadent, tropical Miami Dolphins—after which the home fans rushed the field and tore down the goalposts. Then the Bills destroyed the L.A. Raiders 51–3 and entered the Super Bowl as heavy favorites. Their opponents were the New York Giants, media darlings of the megalopolis to the south, which meant that this was an opportunity to work out some major civic anxiety in front of the whole world. Quote This is not accurate. Edited September 2, 2018 by Madbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Madbillsfan said: Their first chance came in the winter of 1991. The Bills stormed through the playoffs, beating their archrivals—the decadent, tropical Miami Dolphins—after which the home fans rushed the field and tore down the goalposts. Then the Bills destroyed the L.A. Raiders 51–3 and entered the Super Bowl as heavy favorites. Their opponents were the New York Giants, media darlings of the megalopolis to the south, which meant that this was an opportunity to work out some major civic anxiety in front of the whole world. This is not accurate. They 100% tore the goal posts down in 1980 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said: Ugh first the shooter in Jacksonville and now this.....this is not the type of publicity the Bills want Man, how can you comment about the Bills or Buffalo’ s image on this board and still have sympathy for the victims and their families? Heck , even for the killer. He must have been mentally ill and somebody (else) should have noticed and did something about it. How could he have been allowed to rent that truck and buy fertilizer? How , how, how ....You must be a horrible person and should be publicly shamed! 25 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: What unmitigated horse****. Blaming the Bills for Oklahoma City? !@#$ you Politico and Sam Anderson. Ridiculous angle. If the Bills caused OKC, where are all the other mass murderers from Buffalo in the same time frame? What? There are none? No ****, Sherlock. C’mon Freddy. How can your thoughts be about the Bills when reading this ? Horrible people on this board. For shame, for shame. ? 46 minutes ago, Matty the Dustmop said: They did that year when they beat Miami to win the AFC East and clinch home field.... Right. It was the Christmas Eve game vs Miami for the division , Reich started at QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Bills are always to blame... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckMeat182 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: Raiders? Methinks the OP is a TROLL..... Yeah not sure what im trolling, methinks you're reading too much into it. It is an interesting piece take it or leave it I guess. Edited September 2, 2018 by NeckMeat182 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Pretty sure they tore the goal posts down after Smerlas blocked the Jets FG to make the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 39 minutes ago, Taro T said: Are you referring to the 1980 Fish game? If so, No, they did not throw them over the top of the stadium. They WANTED to & brought a goalpost up into the upper deck, but security kept them from tossing it over. A couple of other sections of goalpost did make it into the parking lot, but not after being tossed over the stadium. They would've killed someone filing out of the stadium if they had. The fans carried the goalpost up to Ralph's box and presented it to him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: We definitely have a concerning group on this board that can't process criticism of the team and then wallow in despair when the team loses. That is a highly unhealthy combination. It's entertainment.........and a product where you aren't given free-market options.........not realizing this and your right to expect more and be critical of bad results is an invitation to mental illness. Uh oh...now you did it. Better have someone else taste your food for you lol. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, BobChalmers said: Pretty sure they tore the goal posts down after Smerlas blocked the Jets FG to make the playoffs? This is correct , NOV 1988 division clincher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: Ugh first the shooter in Jacksonville and now this.....this is not the type of publicity the Bills want Idiot fans throw each other through table which are on fire! I don’t think anyone who follows football is unaware how moronic Bills fans are. This Bills Mafia thing is nothing short of pathetic. Throw down the NWA TITLE AND rename the groups BMD Bills Moronic Drunks! Edited September 2, 2018 by KRT88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your brain broke Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Interesting read, thanks for sharing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, NeckMeat182 said: Came accross this article and found it quite interesting. Did not realize McVeigh was a Bills super fan. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/02/how-football-fed-timothy-mcveighs-despair-219625 You know now he lived just north of Amherst in Niagara county....graduated from star pointe highschoolhigh school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty the Dustmop Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 It wasnt Christmas Eve when they beat Miami with Reich at qb I do believe it was Dec 23rd....next week they got beat with Gale Gilbert qbing against the Deadskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 The goalposts came down in 80, 88, and 91....it seems like some don't realize it happened on 3 separate occasions 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Curt Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) I read the entire article. It upset me when the facts of the Branch Davidians were false. The article states that the government set the compound on fire, but it was David Coresh who killed his own people because he didn't want to be taken alive. I can't take this article seriously because of the political agenda it's trying to push. If a person allows a football team to contribute to the murders of 168 men, women and children, than that person has major issues. The Bills winning a Super Bowl wouldn't have prevented that. It's like him saying the Bills lost so I'm about to blow up a daycare center. I don't buy that logic. Edited September 2, 2018 by Big Curt Mistyped 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 People who knew McVeigh in High School (whom I know well) tell me that he fundamentally changed after serving in the military. I tend to think his experiences there, you know, killing people and trying not to get killed, may have influenced his psyche more than the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Lurker said: The fans carried the goalpost up to Ralph's box and presented it to him... One section of goalpost may have ended up there. Another section ended up at the top of the upper deck. The drunks that carried it up there were shouting at the people leaving the stadium to get them to move back so they could throw it over into the concourse. Security took that section from them and there it lay 3 rows from the top of the stadium until well after everybody had filed out of Rich. Ironically, the replacement goal posts were made by a Miami-based comoany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 As Rosanne Rosannadana so famously suggested, when it comes to Buffalo "it's always something." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 hours ago, NeckMeat182 said: Came accross this article and found it quite interesting. Did not realize McVeigh was a Bills super fan. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/02/how-football-fed-timothy-mcveighs-despair-219625 McVeigh was just one part of a black operation. The narrative that he 'snapped' is easily refuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckMeat182 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Didn't mean to incite any tin foil hatters. Just did not know he left town days after losing $1000 on the super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: We definitely have a concerning group on this board that can't process criticism of the team and then wallow in despair when the team loses. That is a highly unhealthy combination. It's entertainment.........and a product where you aren't given free-market options.........not realizing this and your right to expect more and be critical of bad results is an invitation to mental illness. I do remember that there was a definite uptick of local health problems immediately after some of those super bowl losses. It really took a toll on some. 1 hour ago, djp14150 said: You know now he lived just north of Amherst in Niagara county....graduated from star pointe highschoolhigh school Yes. Starpoint is western Lockport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 So, what you're saying is that the dude in Jacksonville doesn't have the high score, and Tim McVeigh really does? I can accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 McVeigh snapped at some point, I just don’t buy the Bills losses contributed in any significant way to his turn. I’m sure losing a grand wasn’t fun, but there were many other issues in his life that made him change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenWillBust Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 This is what happens when you turn a sport into a religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: People who knew McVeigh in High School (whom I know well) tell me that he fundamentally changed after serving in the military. I tend to think his experiences there, you know, killing people and trying not to get killed, may have influenced his psyche more than the Bills. Every soldier who experiences live combat. Is (sometimes) changed in one way or another for life. I am not aware of anyone I served with ever turning into a political mass murdering arsewipe. . And becoming a domestic terrorist. While it's plausible that being in the military caused at least PTSD. I don't buy that theory for a second. Oddly, IIRC neither did he. that POS doesn't deserve to be analyzed anymore than he has been. Any comments on him. Mine included, are a complete waste of bandwidth. That article sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 34 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: I saw a large section of goalpost thrown over the edge of the stadium with my own eyes. The end of the 1990 season. Not exactly sure if it was the season finale, or a playoff game. I also remember a large swatch of Astroturf being cut from the field after the '90 AFC Championship game. There will always be morons at sporting events, I guess... You think that manure is 'interesting'? TROLL. As mentioned in an earlier post, my recollection was of the '80 opener, not the playoff game in '90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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