AllenWillBust Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, RaoulDuke79 said: Quote this.....what kind of !@#$ creates a username and avatar such as yours I was told to be civil, that gif isn't very civil IMO. And tbh, Eddie Murphy is so 90's, he still doing kids movies in fat suits these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 thankfully this is a depth conversation. I was worried he had other issues with the name of the post. At the end of the day these are still human beings, and I wish them well. The Bills lack high end talent at WR, but do have some mid level depth. Will be interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: That's the "glass half full" mentality. Me? I'm wondering why this coach and GM seem horribly inept at evaluating and acquiring offensive talent, across the board. Take a quick look at Carolina's offense. This is a pattern. Fair analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: While fielding an historically bad offense. Your response is completely irrelevant to that that point. The Russian judges score notoriously low. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: I am grateful for the long overdue playoff birth, but last year was last year. I'm not one to rest on past accomplishments. Set your sights a little further and much higher. This offense is putrid! So let me see if I have this straight We are grateful for last year (even though pretty much EVERYBODY gave us no shot).....we released pretty much all of our high priced players......and STILL found a way to play our 1st post season game in over a decade and a half. But.....this is this year....and we KNOW we are gonna suck....so now we should be complaining before the season even starts...... And you dont see a pattern here with your thinking? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: So let me see if I have this straight We are grateful for last year (even though pretty much EVERYBODY gave us no shot).....we released pretty much all of our high priced players......and STILL found a way to play our 1st post season game in over a decade and a half. But.....this is this year....and we KNOW we are gonna suck....so now we should be complaining before the season even starts...... And you dont see a pattern here with your thinking? Ceiling for this team is right around 6 wins IMO. Don't forget, there is always a lot of change in the NFL year to year with a given team. Some go from good to bad, some bad to good. Don't assume anything with any team in this year based on what happened last year. They aren't related, and almost everyone who studies this stuff and who isn't a Bills fan has us as a league leading regression candidate for 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Ceiling for this team is right around 6 wins IMO. Don't forget, there is always a lot of change in the NFL year to year with a given team. Some go from good to bad, some bad to good. Don't assume anything with any team in this year based on what happened last year. They aren't related, and almost everyone who studies this stuff and who isn't a Bills fan has us as a league leading regression candidate for 2018. Just like they did last year. The things not being talked about A year in the belt of getting the player's McDermott wants on the team......a year for the younger guys on both O and D to be in systems under the same HC and coordinators (except Daboll) and positional coaches.... That actually does count for something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So let me see if I have this straight We are grateful for last year (even though pretty much EVERYBODY gave us no shot).....we released pretty much all of our high priced players......and STILL found a way to play our 1st post season game in over a decade and a half. But.....this is this year....and we KNOW we are gonna suck....so now we should be complaining before the season even starts...... And you dont see a pattern here with your thinking? So you're just going to refuse to accept what's right in front of your eyes. That's cool. Do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: So you're just going to refuse to accept what's right in front of your eyes. That's cool. Do you. We will revisit this after the season.....you were probably saying this last offseason I bet. You just moved your narrative over to the next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Hmmmmm...didn’t you say Foster had 0% chance and kept arguing with me about it just because I said I felt he still had a shot and it was too early to rule him out after first preseason game and he was showing better in practice and still has a connection to Daboll? Call me stunned. He sucked in pre-season so much so in game 1 that he hardly got out there in games 2 and 3. Similarly Connor McDermott who 2 weeks into camp was relegated to the 3rd team from where he never rose again and suddenly he is on the 53. I think it is bonkers. Well hopefully he proves his worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 8 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: So you're just going to refuse to accept what's right in front of your eyes. That's cool. Do you. That's cool for college ball, but in the NFL they play the games to see who wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 ....reading stuff like this should have been McBeane's first clue about a lousy attitude..............NFL Retweet @NFLRTCorey Coleman: "Why am I running second team? If you don't want me to play, why won't yall just trade me?" 6:16 AM - 15 Aug 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Call me stunned. He sucked in pre-season so much so in game 1 that he hardly got out there in games 2 and 3. Similarly Connor McDermott who 2 weeks into camp was relegated to the 3rd team from where he never rose again and suddenly he is on the 53. I think it is bonkers. Well hopefully he proves his worth. I think they are both placeholders while Beane rummages thru the cuts. As I see it they basically cut the roster down to about 49 because that's all they have that even remotely deserve a spot. I think they want guys like Foster and McDermott on the PS though, so keeping them in Buffalo while teams fill out their PS increases the likelihood that they stay here. And if they can't get a waiver claim in or veteran cuts say thanks-but-no-thanks......and they have to keep RF and CM on the roster week one.........they will be inactive anyway and as cheap as it gets. I can't envision McDermott getting another year of roster paychecks either though........he was putrid disappointment in preseason. Edited September 2, 2018 by BADOLBILZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I think they are both placeholders while Beane rummages thru the cuts. As I see it they basically cut the roster down to about 49 because that's all they have that even remotely deserve a spot. I think they want guys like Foster and McDermott on the PS though, so keeping them in Buffalo while teams fill out their PS increases the likelihood that they stay here. And if they can't get a waiver claim in or veteran cuts say thanks-but-no-thanks......and they have to keep RF and CM on the roster week one.........they will be inactive anyway and as cheap as it gets. I can't envision McDermott getting another year of roster paychecks either though........he was putrid disappointment in preseason. Agree that makes sense. I did say I thought they'd do that with one of the young receivers..... keep them a few days extra because it helps you keep them on the PS when teams have already filled theirs. Still slightly surprised it is Foster but there you go and equally McDermott was so awful he was with the 3s every game and then gets kept.... odd but maybe they think he is still a PS guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 18 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Ceiling for this team is right around 6 wins IMO. Don't forget, there is always a lot of change in the NFL year to year with a given team. Some go from good to bad, some bad to good. Don't assume anything with any team in this year based on what happened last year. They aren't related, and almost everyone who studies this stuff and who isn't a Bills fan has us as a league leading regression candidate for 2018. I do appreciate your consistency . and you have a solid opinion. But i disagree with the lead leading regression candidate . I do agree with you in the bolded. Young ,or new perhaps , Bills Coaching GM and O Coordinator just in . Team sorting out the details of developing and maintaining a contending Buffalo Bills. aint there yet. But I will not predict a record. One thing about the Bills these days ? They do surprise at times : ) in so many ways.... 16 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: So you're just going to refuse to accept what's right in front of your eyes. That's cool. Do you. I cannot see why anyone would enjoy perceiving gloom upon the horizon. John should do John. and you should do you Boo. too soon see how how this team will look midway theis season. Don't count out Coach Daboll ! this offense might be worth watching : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I think they are both placeholders while Beane rummages thru the cuts. As I see it they basically cut the roster down to about 49 because that's all they have that even remotely deserve a spot. I think they want guys like Foster and McDermott on the PS though, so keeping them in Buffalo while teams fill out their PS increases the likelihood that they stay here. And if they can't get a waiver claim in or veteran cuts say thanks-but-no-thanks......and they have to keep RF and CM on the roster week one.........they will be inactive anyway and as cheap as it gets. I can't envision McDermott getting another year of roster paychecks either though........he was putrid disappointment in preseason. Right On! I hope you are right about the rummaging process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 18 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Just like they did last year. The things not being talked about A year in the belt of getting the player's McDermott wants on the team......a year for the younger guys on both O and D to be in systems under the same HC and coordinators (except Daboll) and positional coaches.... That actually does count for something absolutely does. 6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I think they are both placeholders while Beane rummages thru the cuts. As I see it they basically cut the roster down to about 49 because that's all they have that even remotely deserve a spot. I think they want guys like Foster and McDermott on the PS though, so keeping them in Buffalo while teams fill out their PS increases the likelihood that they stay here. And if they can't get a waiver claim in or veteran cuts say thanks-but-no-thanks......and they have to keep RF and CM on the roster week one.........they will be inactive anyway and as cheap as it gets. I can't envision McDermott getting another year of roster paychecks either though........he was putrid disappointment in preseason. Good post 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Agree that makes sense. I did say I thought they'd do that with one of the young receivers..... keep them a few days extra because it helps you keep them on the PS when teams have already filled theirs. Still slightly surprised it is Foster but there you go and equally McDermott was so awful he was with the 3s every game and then gets kept.... odd but maybe they think he is still a PS guy. so perhaps they bring back Streater? if nothing more shows from waivers. Moving Foster to PS made sense before the cut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 He apparently didn't have the smarts. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/9/6/17825398/buffalo-bills-general-manager-brandon-beane-clarifies-why-corey-coleman-was-cut-2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 The thing I don't understand about this is: The Bills needed him to take the top off of the defense. They said as much in the article. How complicated is it to run a go route? RUN STRAIGHT AND FAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, berg1029 said: The thing I don't understand about this is: The Bills needed him to take the top off of the defense. They said as much in the article. How complicated is it to run a go route? RUN STRAIGHT AND FAST. Did you watch him play in the preseason games? he looked like he was running the routes at 50%. he had to be releases. Good effort on Bean for giving it a shot and really didnt give up anything for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, wppete said: Did you watch him play in the preseason games? he looked like he was running the routes at 50%. he had to be releases. Good effort on Bean for giving it a shot and really didnt give up anything for him. Yeah idk why Beane would say it had anything to do with him learning the playbook though. I agree though. His play on the field said enough about why he was cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 On 9/2/2018 at 5:52 AM, GunnerBill said: Call me stunned. He sucked in pre-season so much so in game 1 that he hardly got out there in games 2 and 3. Similarly Connor McDermott who 2 weeks into camp was relegated to the 3rd team from where he never rose again and suddenly he is on the 53. I think it is bonkers. Well hopefully he proves his worth. Good catch. That is Cronyism at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Good catch. That is Cronyism at work. It's nepotism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, wppete said: Did you watch him play in the preseason games? he looked like he was running the routes at 50%. he had to be releases. Good effort on Bean for giving it a shot and really didnt give up anything for him. Maybe he is the Gary Anderson of receivers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Doesn't Beane have a nice PC way of saying "He was dumb as a box o' rocks"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I notice as of today, Coleman is still a free agent - since he was cut, any team could pick him up for vet minimum, leaving the Bills to pay the balance between vet minimum and his $3.5M guaranteed salary - but no takers. 1 hour ago, berg1029 said: Yeah idk why Beane would say it had anything to do with him learning the playbook though. I agree though. His play on the field said enough about why he was cut This. I think Beane is trying to be nice, but "in fairness to Corey, it is hard to get here in August and learn an offense when you’re fighting for reps and haven’t practiced with any of these quarterbacks" had better be BS - I mean, Beane knew all that when he made the deal that brought Coleman in, so why do it if it's such an uphill fight? He says Coleman "tried hard, he really did", but it has to be that he didn't try hard enough, or that his "try hard" was a lot lower quality than another players. 13 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Doesn't Beane have a nice PC way of saying "He was dumb as a box o' rocks"? I could be wrong, but I think if he were a real full-go, hard-driving box of rocks, he'd still be here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: It's nepotism. Both words work @sshole! 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I notice as of today, Coleman is still a free agent - since he was cut, any team could pick him up for vet minimum, leaving the Bills to pay the balance between vet minimum and his $3.5M guaranteed salary - but no takers. This. I think Beane is trying to be nice, but "in fairness to Corey, it is hard to get here in August and learn an offense when you’re fighting for reps and haven’t practiced with any of these quarterbacks" had better be BS - I mean, Beane knew all that when he made the deal that brought Coleman in, so why do it if it's such an uphill fight? He says Coleman "tried hard, he really did", but it has to be that he didn't try hard enough, or that his "try hard" was a lot lower quality than another players. I could be wrong, but I think if he were a real full-go, hard-driving box of rocks, he'd still be here. He had a shtty attitude. Thats what they said on twitter. "didnt like his attitude since he walked in the building" Im guessing the playbook thing was an excuse. The kid isnt stupid, hes lazy with a major attitude problem and feels too entitled to go 100% at practice. This is why he got cut. Eagles not looking so good on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Too bad they couldn't have figured out that he was a process guy before they traded for him. Edited September 7, 2018 by Sky Diver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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