RPbillsfan Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Here's my work in progress 53 man roster QB - 3 McCarron Peterman Allen RB - 3 McCoy Ivory Murphy FB - 1 DiMarco WR - 7 Benjamin Kerley Coleman Jones McCloud Holmes Riley TE - 4 Clay O'Leary Thomas Croom OL - 8 Dawkins Duchasse Groy Miller Mills Teller Bodine Botteger ST - 3 Hsushcka Schmidt Ferguson DT - 4 Williams Lotulelel Phillips Washington DE - 4 Hughes Murphy Lawson Yarborough LB - 6 Edmunds Milano Alexander Humber Vallejo Sanford CB - 5 White Davis Gaines Johnson Pitts S - 5 Hyde Poyer Bush Marlowe McCray I would like to see some improvements at LB depth and safety. Looking for your thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: Here's my work in progress 53 man roster QB - 3 McCarron Peterman Allen RB - 3 McCoy Ivory Murphy FB - 1 DiMarco WR - 7 Benjamin Kerley Coleman Jones McCloud Holmes Riley TE - 4 Clay O'Leary Thomas Croom OL - 8 Dawkins Duchasse Groy Miller Mills Teller Bodine Botteger ST - 3 Hsushcka Schmidt Ferguson DT - 4 Williams Lotulelel Phillips Washington DE - 4 Hughes Murphy Lawson Yarborough LB - 6 Edmunds Milano Alexander Humber Vallejo Sanford CB - 5 White Davis Gaines Johnson Pitts S - 5 Hyde Poyer Bush Marlowe McCray I would like to see some improvements at LB depth and safety. Looking for your thoughts Not a bad first pass. I’m keeping one more RB and one less TE (probably cut Thomas). There are a few other tweaks (Newhouse over Boetteger and Adolphus Washington goes IMO). I think safety is one is one of the strongest spots on the roster. You kept 5 of them and then said you wanted to improve there? If you meant CB I would agree. The depth there is scary. Good list though!! I think you are pretty close. Edited August 12, 2018 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I wouldn’t keep 3 QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I think you need more depth at OT. Newhouse, Wesley, McDermott, one of these guys have to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 I was hoping Siran Neal would have looked better at training camp but maybe practice squad. I think we could do better then Pitts, but Wallace has been disappointing. Thinking 4 TE as one could play FB, if Riley can be as good as Holmes at ST, we may go 6 WR, and keep Newhouse on the OL. Of course I would love to add Kahiil Mack if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 i hope they hang on to the edge mike love. they could list him as a lb and have him spell lorax. use him to rush the passer. i think that dude has hughes clone written all over him. besides i think this is lorax's last year and he will cohost one bills live after. there is also keenan robinson so i would cut stanford and humber would be on the bubble. also i think siran neal will come around and maybe push mccray although probably p.s. this year. at wr keeping reilly is a must. i like streeter more than holmes. he can get deep and someone has to go. i was really routing for dupri to step up and also had/have hopes for foster. at cb i think wallace can be better than pitts. at least we'll have one helluva practice squad. 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Not a bad first pass. I’m keeping one more RB and one less TE (probably cut Thomas). There are a few other tweaks (Newhouse over Boetteger and Adolphus Washington goes IMO). I think safety is one is one of the strongest spots on the roster. You kept 5 of them and then said you wanted to improve there? If you meant CB I would agree. The depth there is scary. Good list though!! I think you are pretty close. i would like to hear some opinions of the new dt from the rams, i'm curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 The OP has a good list. I thought McDermott was a given as a swing tackle but he may be on the bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: i hope they hang on to the edge mike love. they could list him as a lb and have him spell lorax. use him to rush the passer. i think that dude has hughes clone written all over him. besides i think this is lorax's last year and he will cohost one bills live after. there is also keenan robinson so i would cut stanford and humber would be on the bubble. also i think siran neal will come around and maybe push mccray although probably p.s. this year. at wr keeping reilly is a must. i like streeter more than holmes. he can get deep and someone has to go. i was really routing for dupri to step up and also had/have hopes for foster. at cb i think wallace can be better than pitts. at least we'll have one helluva practice squad. i would like to hear some opinions of the new dt from the rams, i'm curious. I don’t know much about him but he played some last year(in every game it said). He can’t be terrible. Washington, to me, just gets pushed around. He’s never been the guy that he could have been. Additionally, the Bills can kick Shaq inside on passing downs. He was effective at Clemson doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I will be shocked if they don’t keep 4 RBs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, billspro said: I will be shocked if they don’t keep 4 RBs. If Shady plays 16 games it’s hard to rationalize keeping 3 guys behind him. Ivory barring injury is in. It’s Cadet Vs Murphy for the third back in my opinion. For you Murphy bandwagon jumpers don’t forget he was on the roster when they signed Ivory to a 2.5 Million totally guaranteed contract. TTP ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: I wouldn’t keep 3 QBs. I agree. I think the Loser out of Peterman and McCarron are looking for a job Also they will keep 5 (RB/FB) minimum. Last year they kept 6. Edited August 12, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: I wouldn’t keep 3 QBs. Why? It is a long, grueling season. All 3 are cheap and we are still evaluating them as well. Dollars to donuts all three stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: Why? It is a long, grueling season. All 3 are cheap and we are still evaluating them as well. Dollars to donuts all three stay. Because there is no need. Most teams keep 2. As we should as well. The loser of McCarron and Peterman really should be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Why 3 on ST? Whats the logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Remove Boettger and McCray and add Newhouse and Wesley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Because there is no need. Most teams keep 2. As we should as well. The loser of McCarron and Peterman really should be cut. What teams? I would have to scrub last years rosters and see what the percentage is. It is very dangerous to carry 2. If on gets hurt you have no back up- sure, you can pick a scrub up that doesnt know this offense and has no timing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Not a bad first pass. I’m keeping one more RB and one less TE (probably cut Thomas). There are a few other tweaks (Newhouse over Boetteger and Adolphus Washington goes IMO). I think safety is one is one of the strongest spots on the roster. You kept 5 of them and then said you wanted to improve there? If you meant CB I would agree. The depth there is scary. Good list though!! I think you are pretty close. ...Kirby, what about DiMarco versus Olstad kid?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: What teams? I would have to scrub last years rosters and see what the percentage is. It is very dangerous to carry 2. If on gets hurt you have no back up- sure, you can pick a scrub up that doesnt know this offense and has no timing down. A majority did in 2017. 19 of them. https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/03/majority-of-the-league-going-with-just-two-quarterbacks/amp/ also your BU is Allen. So he comes in. Then after the game if you need to you re-sign the loser kf Peterman or McCarron or get a BU. It has been done like that awhile now. Edited August 12, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: A majority did in 2017. 19 of them. https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/03/majority-of-the-league-going-with-just-two-quarterbacks/amp/ Wow man, thats crazy! I would of never thought that many did. It is really risky if you think a out it- thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, billsfan_34 said: Wow man, thats crazy! I would of never thought that many did. It is really risky if you think a out it- thanks for the link. Its because it gives you Roster Flexibility. Same reason most teams are only keeping max 8 OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Its because it gives you Roster Flexibility. Same reason most teams are only keeping max 8 OL. Trust me I get that- but it comes with other risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 18 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Why? It is a long, grueling season. All 3 are cheap and we are still evaluating them as well. Dollars to donuts all three stay. Theres no need to especially if Allen doesn’t win the starting job. You’d just be taking reps away from him in practice. Ultimately, I think AJM wins the starting job and Peterman gets cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Why do we need 4 tight ends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I would like to see us keep the DT we signed today and cut Washington......who frankly I think is not a good football player also....Logan Thomas has been given every opportunity and shown NOTHING.....I would like to see us sign another TE off cuts but other then that this looks good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...Kirby, what about DiMarco versus Olstad kid?..... I don’t love DiMarco but he’s staying. He is overrated though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Why do we need 4 tight ends? agree, Croom to PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 26 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Theres no need to especially if Allen doesn’t win the starting job. You’d just be taking reps away from him in practice. Ultimately, I think AJM wins the starting job and Peterman gets cut. Good point with reps in practice. I dont know if the Bills will give up on Peterman yet. You have to give him a chance to be a solid number 2 behind Allen- time will tell right? We will all know in a few weeks- cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Why do we need 4 tight ends? We don’t need 4 TEs and a FB. That’s for sure! Teach one of the back up TEs to lead block for goal line sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Kyle Williams FB2 Need a 4th RB for special teams and Cadet would work. Don't need 4 TEs. Practice squad figures into the equation for numbers kept on the 53. Can go with 8 OLs if there is a 9th they can stash on PS. I love the annual hand wringing about the WRs. I think this is at least the 3rd year in a row people lament cutting the 6th, 7th or 8th WR when the hope is none of them ever play. Then the years they do suit up they are not ready and then it's why are the back ups so bad. The best WR scenario is that Coleman and Zay come through and those two with Benjamin and Kerley are a solid group of 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think safety is one is one of the strongest spots on the roster. You kept 5 of them and then said you wanted to improve there? If you meant CB I would agree. The depth there is scary. Could they trade them for late round picks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Good point with reps in practice. I dont know if the Bills will give up on Peterman yet. You have to give him a chance to be a solid number 2 behind Allen- time will tell right? We will all know in a few weeks- cheers! He’s getting his chance now. If he’s not good enough to start then he’s on the outside looking in. I’m not concerned about who the backup is at this point. The only thing that matters is giving Allen the best chance to develop. I think having 3 QBs on the 53 man roster is a hinderance to that development. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, ganesh said: Could they trade them for late round picks ? I could see a player for player trade like the one where we traded Chris White for Thad Lewis. Maybe they use a QB, a receiver or DL to try to get a CB? How about something like Adolphus Washington for Mackensie Alexander? The Vikings have crazy CB depth and could use another interior DL. Washington would probably crack their 2 deep and with the addition of Mike Hughes, Alexander is their 4th or 5th CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: agree, Croom to PS. Croom stays. Cut the project who hasn't developed in 2 years. I do think Boettger has a real chance of making it though on the OL. Either as a 9th man kept or instead of Newhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Croom stays. Cut the project who hasn't developed in 2 years. I do think Boettger has a real chance of making it though on the OL. Either as a 9th man kept or instead of Newhouse. A definite option. 9 OL could be in the mix. Definitely need more preseason games to evaluate OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Paul Costa said: If Shady plays 16 games it’s hard to rationalize keeping 3 guys behind him. Ivory barring injury is in. It’s Cadet Vs Murphy for the third back in my opinion. For you Murphy bandwagon jumpers don’t forget he was on the roster when they signed Ivory to a 2.5 Million totally guaranteed contract. TTP ? It’s easy to justify. Daboll uses lots of two back sets. Murphy and Cadet can both play special teams and we definitely don’t need 7 WRs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I think they will look hard at Cb as teams make their cuts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I would swap out Holmes for Streater or Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Good projection. I don't see them carrying 7 WR and 4 TE. It will be 5 and 3. That opens up another couple RBs. After Shady, I think they will unfortunately keep Ivory and DiMarco and then 2-3 more RB's. The 53rd spot will probably be a toss up between #6 WR or # 6 RB. It may come down to how fast Zay and Coleman progress over the next two weeks. I too would opt to carry an extra OL. There is some developmental talent there. It would be nice if they can find the G-C-G combo for the next few years so they can just focus on upgrading RT next year (though Mills is serviceable). I think 10 DB's is fine. I don't care much if it is 4DB/6S or 5/5. I would just keep the top 10 regardless of position. The reality is the bottom 3 are ST guys at best. As for QB, I would keep 3 or trade Peterman. Either is fine with me. If 19 teams went with 2 QB that means 13 didn't so definitely not out of the question. The reality is if AJ or Peterman start and stink, then the season is lost and they will just play Allen. Therefore they really don't need a third QB. That said, QB's get injured all the time and either AJ or Peterman might fetch a draft pick or an OLB down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 55 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: I would swap out Holmes for Streater or Phillips. Unless they can do what Holmes can on ST that would be foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t know much about him but he played some last year(in every game it said). He can’t be terrible. Washington, to me, just gets pushed around. He’s never been the guy that he could have been. Additionally, the Bills can kick Shaq inside on passing downs. He was effective at Clemson doing that. I agree on moving Shaq inside. That love dude tho really made an impression on me. Read his bio and think he could be this year's diamond. I could see him and Eddie 2nding the ends. Idk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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