3rdand12 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: KC is the most boring city I’ve ben to period. btw when were there? and why ? : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, row_33 said: What NfL cities have far less to offer than Buffalo? Kansas City was really boring. I didn't think it offered anything more exciting than what you would find in Buffalo. The BBQ was great so the food aspect was a wash. Cleveland is like going to a slightly bigger Buffalo but without the kick ass food spots so I would consider that pretty even. I'm sure Green Bay doesn't stand out as a more exciting city than Buffalo either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Hey! The Jacksonville Zoo is wonderful. (We had a condo in St Augustine for years, yes, Jacksonville itself is fairly dull.) I think "fun" depends on what you are seeking... super party town? NO is probably gonna be #1 for you. Lots of things to do in the geographic area? Believe it or not, Buffalo is gonna do fairly well (I personally love the city of Boston for all things historical). I've spent at least a weekend (some areas far more time) in 25 of the cities, and I can't stand New Orleans (it smells awful), NYC, Miami, Dallas, but others might love those metro areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: why do you say that honestly ? did you have an exceptionally boring time in Indiana ? : ) Technically yes. I have only driven through. But it seemed boring to me. That is why I asked the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: While buffalo is no Paris it’s not a boring city The bbq is good. I agree. Much better in Austin! The reports i have about Austin . It is up and coming young city. Music is awesome and so is night life. 3 minutes ago, BUFFALOKIE said: Absolutely! I'm sure most folks think Tulsa sucks, but if you have a good guide, we rock! So, short of friends and a football team, which NFL city is your least desirable destination? Boston lol been years , i but i found them to be a bit arrogant in general. uptight as well . I was with a band from Boston and was a pretend roadie. Just driving through the city was irritating. and that was well before the Patriots were even blip. but the seafood and eateries were excellent. all about what you are looking for i guess. seems like an existential question really Okie : ) good for dialogue for sure my friend !! Edited July 20, 2018 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Hey! The Jacksonville Zoo is wonderful. (We had a condo in St Augustine for years, yes, Jacksonville itself is fairly dull.) I think "fun" depends on what you are seeking... super party town? NO is probably gonna be #1 for you. Lots of things to do in the geographic area? Believe it or not, Buffalo is gonna do fairly well (I personally love the city of Boston for all things historical). I've spent at least a weekend (some areas far more time) in 25 of the cities, and I can't stand New Orleans (it smells awful), NYC, Miami, Dallas, but others might love those metro areas. Jacksonville has a beach, no? Any 0lace with a beach is okay with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I went to St Louis last year... by far the worst city in the US I have been too and I have seen a few.. Boring is not the word though.., more like deserted.. and a bit scary... I know that St Louis is no long an NFL town and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Again, a lot of it is going to come down to how you experience a place. I’m trying to view this as a total outsider. If I went somewhere, and knew no one, where would offer the least? Detroit, Jacksonville, Buffalo, Green Bay, Cincinnati and Oakland would be my list. Now as a native of Buffalo I can show anyone a great time there. I’d imagine that is true of any city. I can show you a great time in New Orleans too and we’d never step foot on Bourbon Street. If we want to do this honestly though you have to try to remove your knowledge of a place from the equation. It totally alters your reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Hey! The Jacksonville Zoo is wonderful. (We had a condo in St Augustine for years, yes, Jacksonville itself is fairly dull.) I think "fun" depends on what you are seeking... super party town? NO is probably gonna be #1 for you. Lots of things to do in the geographic area? Believe it or not, Buffalo is gonna do fairly well (I personally love the city of Boston for all things historical). I've spent at least a weekend (some areas far more time) in 25 of the cities, and I can't stand New Orleans (it smells awful), NYC, Miami, Dallas, but others might love those metro areas. actually I might have picked New Orleans as the BEST . but that again was many moons ago. What a night life !! wow ! Boston is super historical , so us american history buffs love that crap. But New orleans offer some great history and architecture too. Memphis has no football teams but is pretty sweet and Nashville is a never ending party. 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Again, a lot of it is going to come down to how you experience a place. I’m trying to view this as a total outsider. If I went somewhere, and knew no one, where would offer the least? Detroit, Jacksonville, Buffalo, Green Bay, Cincinnati and Oakland would be my list. Now as a native of Buffalo I can show anyone a great time there. I’d imagine that is true of any city. I can show you a great time in New Orleans too and we’d never step foot on Bourbon Street. If we want to do this honestly though you have to try to remove your knowledge of a place from the equation. It totally alters your reality. hard to do Kirby. but your point is well taken. Ohio is boring as hell. Cleveland does not rock and Cinci is just a grade above. right next to Indiana so i get the OP's feeling. Pennsaltucky is not far behind excepting Philly and Pittsburgh. the rest is just a quiet working persons dreamland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 53 minutes ago, mannc said: Cincinnati is pretty damn dull. This... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Again, a lot of it is going to come down to how you experience a place. I’m trying to view this as a total outsider. If I went somewhere, and knew no one, where would offer the least? Detroit, Jacksonville, Buffalo, Green Bay, Cincinnati and Oakland would be my list. Now as a native of Buffalo I can show anyone a great time there. I’d imagine that is true of any city. I can show you a great time in New Orleans too and we’d never step foot on Bourbon Street. If we want to do this honestly though you have to try to remove your knowledge of a place from the equation. It totally alters your reality. So pick one. In your humble opinion, what is the most boring NFL city. I know you have been to a few... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 fun topic Okie thanks I will stick with my Town for boring. I like boring at my age and condition LOL 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: This... but they have white castle and a wave park ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, BUFFALOKIE said: So pick one. In your humble opinion, what is the most boring NFL city. I know you have been to a few... I’ve never been to GB or Oakland. I’d vote Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: fun topic Okie thanks I will stick with my Town for boring. I like boring at my age and condition LOL but they have white castle and a wave park ? White Castle is the best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: The reports i have about Austin . It is up and coming young city. Music is awesome and so is night life. Boston lol been years , i but i found them to be a bit arrogant in general. uptight as well . I was with a band from Boston and was a pretend roadie. Just driving through the city was irritating. and that was well before the Patriots were even blip. but the seafood and eateries were excellent. all about what you are looking for i guess. seems like an existential question really Okie : ) good for dialogue for sure my friend !! But is Boston boring? Pshaw! I think not. Never been ther myself but it is the top of my go to list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Just now, BUFFALOKIE said: But is Boston boring? Pshaw! I think not. Never been ther myself but it is the top of my go to list! I went to school in Boston so I know it pretty well. It would be one of the greatest cities in the world if you could take everyone from Boston out of there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I went to school in Boston so I know it pretty well. It would be one of the greatest cities in the world if you could take everyone from Boston out of there. Townies may be the most horrific people to have a conversation with evah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I went to school in Boston so I know it pretty well. It would be one of the greatest cities in the world if you could take everyone from Boston out of there. HA!! Kinda how I feel about Dallas. Texas is cool except for all the Texans! Lol! It ain't boring though.. I have read no convincing argument otherwise. Indianapolis is the most boring, least desirable travel destination of all NFL cities, unless you are going for a game - which still looks ****ty IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Charlotte is boring as hell. It's a bank branch that kept growing until they legally had to call it a "city." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 For me? Out of the ones ive been to, East Rutherford/Newark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Buffalo is up there although is much better than it was. Detroit, GB, Cincinatti, Oakland and Jacksonville are all in the mix. Anyone that says Buffalo obviously isnt here in the summer when it transforms into the Festival capital of the US holding 3 of the biggest 5 festivals in the country and uncountable small ones...you could literally spend every weekend going to festivals, sometimes as many as 4 or 5 a day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: I am nothing but delighted you caught my nonsensical quip ! : ) It was actually for fun. who the heck knows about other cities and how boring they may or may not be ? you lived in Baltimore, and that may be your best comparison to Buffalo. Most of us are not globetrotters and able to discern the nightlife and fun factors in other cities. silly thread. i had a silly answer and now you know my character. or lack thereof ☺️ Many more of us than you obviously realize. Silly post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said: My group is doing Green Bay this year for our Bills trip but we have decided to stay in Milwaukee first to hang out and party as it seems there really isn't much else going on in Green Bay Green bay, just the "city" of Green bay has to be hands down the least interesting of all. However, if you're going to the game, I'd recommend going to the packer museum in the stadium and tailgating/hanging out in the nearby stadium area for a couple hours before the game. There is a large bar or two within walking distance of the stadium and fun on game days. Not sure if the museum is open on game day or if it is it's packed (pun intended) and tough to get in. For an evening Saturday night you can have fun in Green bay. You can only be in one bar at a time no matter where you are and Green Bay has its share. The fried walleye in the area is top notch. 53 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: This... Cincinnati? Nah, get down by the water, it's great. Montgomery Inn for BBQ, great. Edited July 21, 2018 by keepthefaith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Jacksonville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Green bay, just the "city" of Green bay has to be hands down the least interesting of all. However, if you're going to the game, I'd recommend going to the packer museum in the stadium and tailgating/hanging out in the nearby stadium area for a couple hours before the game. There is a large bar or two within walking distance of the stadium and fun on game days. Not sure if the museum is open on game day or if it is it's packed (pun intended) and tough to get in. For an evening Saturday night you can have fun in Green bay. You can only be in one bar at a time no matter where you are and Green Bay has its share. The fried walleye in the area is top notch. Cincinnati? Nah, get down by the water, it's great. Montgomery Inn for BBQ, great. We are gonna head in to Green Bay Saturday before the game and get a stadium tour and I assume there will be time to check out the museum too. Is there any good places to get some Brats?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Lurker said: Oakland... I so disagree if we're talking about metro areas. The greater East Bay area is far from boring: multicultural, great eateries, museums, music venues, parks, etc. 2 hours ago, BUFFALOKIE said: It has to be Indianapolis, right? I have only drive through, so my assessment may be ignorant, but that would be the last place I would venture to for a football game! Kind of a random thought, sorry. I've been to Indy many times and I think you sell it short. It's in the bottom half of the league, for sure, but not dead last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Foxborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: Yeah, not sure they’d qualify as “nfl” cities as neither of them have nfl teams. Can't get anything past you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’ve never been to GB or Oakland. I’d vote Detroit. Fearing for your life in Detroit City can be a different kind of exciting. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 In terms of game day experience, I’ve heard sf and la are really bad. 1 hour ago, jimmy10 said: Charlotte is boring as hell. It's a bank branch that kept growing until they legally had to call it a "city." Having lived there for six years, you’re half right. If you visit it feels like there’s not much to do. No major things hitting you over the head that seem appealing. But living there, we know the ins and outs and it’s a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 41 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Anyone that says Buffalo obviously isnt here in the summer when it transforms into the Festival capital of the US holding 3 of the biggest 5 festivals in the country and uncountable small ones...you could literally spend every weekend going to festivals, sometimes as many as 4 or 5 a day... Every place I've lived has lots of festivals. I was raised in Buffalo and never thought our festivals were particular special. When I think of great American festivals I think of Mardi Gras, Burning Man, Coachella, St. Patty's Day, Bonnaroo, Austin City Limits, Lollapalouza, Sasquatch... not the Allentown Art or Friendship festivals. I confess, though, that I've never made it to the Buffalo Wing festival and really regret that. On the other hand, I grew up in the rock-n-roll 60s and 70s and despise disco so let's not mention that other famous Buffalo festival. What are the 3 you're referring to? Maybe I'm missing something??? P.S. I tried to google "biggest festivals in America" and didn't come up with a good list. I did, though, find an article in Travel & Leisure magazine on best cities in the country for festivals and Buffalo didn't make the top 20. https://www.travelandleisure.com/slideshows/best-festivals-america-cities#20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Every place I've lived has lots of festivals. I was raised in Buffalo and never thought our festivals were particular special. When I think of great American festivals I think of Mardi Gras, Burning Man, Coachella, St. Patty's Day, Bonnaroo, Austin City Limits, Lollapalouza, Sasquatch... not the Allentown Art or Friendship festivals. I confess, though, that I've never made it to the Buffalo Wing festival and really regret that. On the other hand, I grew up in the rock-n-roll 60s and 70s and despise disco so let's not mention that other famous Buffalo festival. What are the 3 you're referring to? Maybe I'm missing something??? P.S. I tried to google "biggest festivals in America" and didn't come up with a good list. I did, though, find an article in Travel & Leisure magazine on best cities in the country for festivals and Buffalo didn't make the top 20. https://www.travelandleisure.com/slideshows/best-festivals-america-cities#20 Taste of Buffalo is the largest 2 day food festival in the country and 2nd to only the Chicago Food festival overall but that lasts a week. The Italian Festival pulls between 400-600K annually and the CanalFest between 250-300K. The Erie County fair is one of the largest county fairs in the country. This isnt counting the fact we have the largest Dyngus Day celebration in the WORLD, nor the National Wing Festival. Basically if its a reason to party, drink and eat people in Buffalo are all about it. And other places may have some festiivals but not the volume we have. Not even close. I know this because I know people here that have lived in many other large cities and they are in awe of our festival scene. They thinknits the coolest thing ever. Just another case of people living here that don't get it until other people from other places bring it to our attention... Edited July 21, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: Yeah, disagree with Buffalo too. Every time I brought someone to a game and partied the weekend before they all had an excellent time. Some folks like to bash the area, pretty unwarranted in my opinion. Maybe they haven’t done much traveling to compare? I've been to every NFL city at least once except for Green Bay. At different times of my life, I've lived in the NE, NW, SE, SW (sort of: California) and Midwest. And I personally think Buffalo is indeed one of the most boring cities in the NFL. But I will say, my wife and children are not Buffalonians and they always enjoy visiting WNY. They don't seem to find it boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 3 hours ago, msw2112 said: You'd be surprised. I travel to Indy for business on occasion and they have a really built-up downtown with tons of bars, restaurants, museums, etc. There's also some good bike and running trails in and near downtown. They have a lot of convention space, plus the Pacers Fieldhouse, plus Lucas Oil field, so they have lots of visitors in town all the time. They got high marks when they hosted the Super Bowl a few years ago and they also have hosted numerous Big 10 Football Championship games, Big 10 Basketball tournaments and Final Fours. So, I would actually recommend Indy highly. Oakland is pretty bad, but near SF and other good parts of the Bay Area. Green Bay is amazing for football Sundays (I have been to one game there and am going to the Bills game again there this year), but other than that, not much to see other than an old industrial town. I have never been to Charlotte, but it doesn't inspire me. Truth be told, I can have fun in any city. +1 on Indy. We hung out there a couple different times for Formula 1 races and thought it was a pretty good and compact downtown. The mid-west in general is underrated IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Never been there, but GB seems like an obvious choice, if you're just talking about night life and partying. I bet their game days are pretty fun, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Taste of Buffalo is the largest 2 day food festival in the country and 2nd to only the Chicago Food festival overall but that lasts a week. The Italian Festival pulls between 400-600K annually and the CanalFest between 250-300K. The Erie County fair is one of the largest county fairs in the country. This isnt counting the fact we have the largest Dyngus Day celebration in the WORLD, nor the National Wing Festival. Basically if its a reason to party, drink and eat people in Buffalo are all about it. And other places may have some festiivals but not the volume we have. Not even close. I know this because I know people here that have lived in many other large cities and they are in awe of our festival scene. They thinknits the coolest thing ever. Just another case of people living here that don't get it until other people from other places bring it to our attention... Taste of Buffalo has 59 food & beverage vendors this year. The Seattle Street Food Festival has 150. Which is better? I'm not saying Buffalo doesn't have great festivals. I'm just saying we shouldn't be parochial homers. There's a lot of great stuff happening in other cities. I don't know - maybe things have changed but I lived in Buffalo for 20 years and never felt "awe" at the festival scene there. Though let me humbly concede the uniqueness of Buffalo's Dyngus Day celebration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Jacksonville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I originally interpreted this thread as meaning what city has the most boring football atmosphere. Then the OP stated that it’s simply the most boring city with an NFL team. If this is the case, how has the thread lasted four pages? The answer is unequivocally Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Taste of Buffalo has 59 food & beverage vendors this year. The Seattle Street Food Festival has 150. Which is better? I'm not saying Buffalo doesn't have great festivals. I'm just saying we shouldn't be parochial homers. There's a lot of great stuff happening in other cities. I don't know - maybe things have changed but I lived in Buffalo for 20 years and never felt "awe" at the festival scene there. Though let me humbly concede the uniqueness of Buffalo's Dyngus Day celebration! Apparently the one bringing 500-600K people from all over the country and Canada...in just the time I was there this year walking to and from our car I counted license plates from 11 states and 3 provinces... Edited July 21, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Never been there, but GB seems like an obvious choice, if you're just talking about night life and partying. I bet their game days are pretty fun, though. Exactly. GB has a metro area population of 312K. That’s around 800 K less than the Buffalo-Niagara region (one of he smallest NFL markets). Cities the size of Green Bay just aren’t that exciting in comparison to larger cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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