Tipster19 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I see that a couple of secondary players are entering it. I was wondering if either of them could be of help to us or if there is any other player(s) that could be of use, someone like a OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Adorable Adonis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Another player who's looking to be in the supplemental draft. 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 Now that I think about it, could there be anyone worthwhile in the CFL as well. I can’t believe that out of a whole league that there can’t be a prospect or two out of there. WR and OL is what I’m hoping the Bills will scour for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: Now that I think about it, could there be anyone worthwhile in the CFL as well. I can’t believe that out of a whole league that there can’t be a prospect or two out of there. WR and OL is what I’m hoping the Bills will scour for. The CFL is cracking down on players under contract from moving to the NFL. Here is an article about it. http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/cfl/cfl-players-under-contract-nfl-opportunities-1.4515863 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Can someone remind me why the supplemental draft exists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, MJS said: Can someone remind me why the supplemental draft exists? The Supplemental draft is designed to give underclassmen -- who did not petition the NFL for early entry before the draft deadline but find themselves ineligible for the upcoming college season -- a way to enter the league. The supplemental draft is held after the traditional NFL draft and before each season begins. https://www.thoughtco.com/supplemental-draft-process-1335579 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 why is beal leaving now? he could have just declared for the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Bryant ran a 4.24 and deadlifts 600 pounds. We could use secondary depth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: The Supplemental draft is designed to give underclassmen -- who did not petition the NFL for early entry before the draft deadline but find themselves ineligible for the upcoming college season -- a way to enter the league. The supplemental draft is held after the traditional NFL draft and before each season begins. https://www.thoughtco.com/supplemental-draft-process-1335579 What makes them ineligible for the upcoming college season if they are underclassmen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Any top WRs or OL players to keep an eye on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 hours ago, MJS said: What makes them ineligible for the upcoming college season if they are underclassmen? Any NCAA rules or disqualifications. Could be as simple as failing grades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 So essentially the supplemental draft is for underclassmen that aren't keeping up with their studies or who are not welcome back at their college for rule breaches.... Sounds like the high character, lunch pail guys that McBeane craves.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: So essentially the supplemental draft is for underclassmen that aren't keeping up with their studies or who are not welcome back at their college for rule breaches.... Sounds like the high character, lunch pail guys that McBeane craves.. Yes. which is why since 2013 there has only been 1 player selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 WR would be a fantastic need to fill but I only have heard about that CB that's available. I wouldn't mind using a high non-1st round pick on a CB if that player would have been a 1st round prospect had he declared or been able to declare. Corner isn't a huge need but outside of White I am not too enthused about what this team has. Vonta is a good reclamation project but coming off some injuries and only on a one year deal. There really isn't a proven nickel corner on the team either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 9 hours ago, MJS said: Can someone remind me why the supplemental draft exists? When after the regular springtime draft circumstances lead to one or more college players being ruled ineligible to continue to play college ball, (whether due to academics, disciplinary issues or whatever) the league typically holds a supplemental draft to provide a controlled means of incorporating those players into the league rather than letting them become free agents or forcing them to sit until the following year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Beal is supposed to be decent and was projected to be a top CB in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Brandon Bryant certainly has the athleticism to catch your attention. He had a DUI arrest in January and had academic problems this spring. That's why he applied for the supplemental draft. Those are minor red flag issues, but not necessarily deal breakers. The real attention getter is the fact that in timed runs he has consistently been under 4.3 in the 40 yard dash. He's very strong and is listed anywhere for 205 to 215 lbs. It would be interesting to know if he has the skill set to play CB too (can backpedal, flip his hips, and track the ball while staying with a receiver). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, TigerJ said: When after the regular springtime draft circumstances lead to one or more college players being ruled ineligible to continue to play college ball, (whether due to academics, disciplinary issues or whatever) the league typically holds a supplemental draft to provide a controlled means of incorporating those players into the league rather than letting them become free agents or forcing them to sit until the following year's draft. Yes.. I think others in the thread explained the same thing earlier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Tipster19 said: Now that I think about it, could there be anyone worthwhile in the CFL as well. I can’t believe that out of a whole league that there can’t be a prospect or two out of there. WR and OL is what I’m hoping the Bills will scour for. WR - Davaris Daniels (son of Phillip Daniels) was a great prospect at Notre Dame during their title game season as a freshman. Then had academic issues and got booted. Great hands and body control. Good size. He's with someone in Canada last I knew. ND Highlights - Edited June 7, 2018 by iccrewman112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 12 hours ago, aristocrat said: why is beal leaving now? he could have just declared for the draft He couldn't get the necessary credits from school before being labeled ineligible. He is a player I'd pursue and give up a 2nd round pick for, he could very well have been a 1st rounder in next years draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: So essentially the supplemental draft is for underclassmen that aren't keeping up with their studies or who are not welcome back at their college for rule breaches.... Sounds like the high character, lunch pail guys that McBeane craves.. Yeah it would have sucked to get Josh Gordon. The Bills should use a 4th on Beal (although I doubt that gets it done). The Bills have 2 4ths next year. Maybe they can steal the long-term starter opposite Tre? Edited June 7, 2018 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 using a first round pick for me is a non starter. if Beal somehow fell in to round 2 i would jump on it. The Bills will be using a high pick on a corner next year in my opinion . Why not get the player in here a year earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah it would have sucked to get Josh Gordon. The Bills should use a 4th on Beal (although I doubt that gets it done). The Bills have 2 4ths next year. Maybe they can steal the long-term starter opposite Tre? In all fairness, Gordon's troubles have been well documented and he's appeared in just 49 of 80 games. Aside from a monster season in 2013, he hasn't been very impactful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah it would have sucked to get Josh Gordon. The Bills should use a 4th on Beal (although I doubt that gets it done). The Bills have 2 4ths next year. Maybe they can steal the long-term starter opposite Tre? I get that Gordon is an athletic freak but if we drafted a guy in the 2nd round who averaged 6 games, 29 catches and 2 touchdowns a year for us he would be run out of town. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Buffalo86 said: In all fairness, Gordon's troubles have been well documented and he's appeared in just 49 of 80 games. Aside from a monster season in 2013, he hasn't been very impactful. He certainly hasn’t played a lot but has been great when he has. He averages 17.3 yards per reception for his career!! That’s insane. By all accounts he’s good to go now. He appears to be in decent shape: Edited June 7, 2018 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Bryant was selected last year to NFL.com's list of college football's fastest players and most freakish athletes. He's been timed as fast as a 4.24 seconds in the 40-yard dash, and can deadlift 600 pounds. At 5-foot-11, 200 pounds, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000935996/article/brandon-bryant-sam-beal-to-apply-for-nfl-supplemental-draft Also Adonis Alexander Listed at 6-foot 3-inches and over 200-pounds, Alexander has the size that teams covet from their cornerbacks but he is still a raw talent at the position after playing it in rotation with Greg Stroman and Brandon Facyson over the past two seasons," Watkins said. Watkins noted that drug suspensions and academic ineligibility prevented Alexander from reaching his potential with the Hokies. NFL teams willing to take a chance could be rewarded down the road. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Adonis-Alexander-expected-to-be-taken-in-2018-NFL-Supplemental-Draft-118795336 Looks like Bryant has a good chance to go high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I get that Gordon is an athletic freak but if we drafted a guy in the 2nd round who averaged 6 games, 29 catches and 2 touchdowns a year for us he would be run out of town. He’s a total exception because of his addiction. His production has been elite. It would be like a super rich man’s Karlos Williams. That’s why the Browns have put up with it. Gordon may be the most gifted player in the league. He averaged 117 yards a game with Hoyer, Campbell and Weeden!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s a total exception because of his addiction. His production has been elite. It would be like a super rich man’s Karlos Williams. That’s why the Browns have put up with it. Gordon may be the most gifted player in the league. He averaged 117 yards a game with Hoyer, Campbell and Weeden!! Not arguing that, over a 16 game season I think its fair to put him in the conversation with guys like Mike Evans and A.J. Green. But he has played 16 games once in five years that being 2012. When you talk about player value I think it's neglectful not to mention availability. Gordon has all the potential in the world but much like Sammy Watkins (for different reasons) it continues to be unrealized potential. If I am using a 2nd round pick I want a guy who reaches his potential by the time he is 26 years old. The Browns have won nothing because of him, got 3 seasons out of him in five years, and will most likely need to pony up a great deal of money for him if they want to keep him past this year. To me, it wasnt worth their commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah it would have sucked to get Josh Gordon. The Bills should use a 4th on Beal (although I doubt that gets it done). The Bills have 2 4ths next year. Maybe they can steal the long-term starter opposite Tre? Right or wrong, your first consideration of whether a player is suitable to come to the Bills is their talent. In the decisions McDermott and Beane have made over the past 12 months, their first consideration is character. I just can’t comprehend them giving up a 4th rounder on some guy that can’t even keep up with the minimum academic requirements to continue their study with all the extra help and tutoring that would be made available..guy must either be lazy or as dumb as a post.. Edited June 7, 2018 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s a total exception because of his addiction. His production has been elite. It would be like a super rich man’s Karlos Williams. That’s why the Browns have put up with it. Gordon may be the most gifted player in the league. He averaged 117 yards a game with Hoyer, Campbell and Weeden!! Gordon had one of - if not the - greatest years ever for a WR before life took its toll on him. If he can regain anything close to his old form he's a top-five player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Right or wrong, your first consideration of whether a player is suitable to come to the Bills is their talent. In the decisions McDermott and Beane have made over the past 12 months, their first consideration is character. I just can’t comprehend them giving up a 4th rounder on some guy that can’t even keep up with the minimum academic requirements to continue their study with all the extra help and tutoring that would be made available..guy must either be lazy or as dumb as a post.. So they won’t give up a 4th but someone else will likely use a 1st or 2nd? At some point the talent outweighs the risk. I think character has has been a consideration but intelligence seems to be at the top of their requirements. You are going to have a few guys with character concerns in every NFL locker room. The Bills employed Incognito. Zay Jones clearly has some issues. Adolphus Washington has been in trouble a few times. Deonte Thompson has been arrested for weed. That’s why I’d have Beal as a 4th. That is where the value is too good to pass up (at a position of need). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: So they won’t give up a 4th but someone else will likely use a 1st or 2nd? At some point the talent outweighs the risk. I think character has has been a consideration but intelligence seems to be at the top of their requirements. You are going to have a few guys with character concerns in every NFL locker room. The Bills employed Incognito. Zay Jones clearly has some issues. Adolphus Washington has been in trouble a few times. Deonte Thompson has been arrested for weed. That’s why I’d have Beal as a 4th. That is where the value is too good to pass up (at a position of need). You would have him for a 4th, and another team might go higher but I’m doubting the Bills would offer anything for him... Yes, they are big on intelligence, so why would they want Beal who can’t keep his grades at minimum standard? Edited June 7, 2018 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 You really just scratch your head The world could be gordon's.....but he allowed his addiction to conquer him him instead of the other way around. I wish him the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LaDexter Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 12:25 PM, MJS said: Can someone remind me why the supplemental draft exists? Football players = dumb = flunkies = they FLUNK OUT of school Football players = trouble = arrests = they get THROWN OUT of school THAT is what is there in the Supplemental Draft, those that didn't quite graduate with honors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 1:11 PM, MJS said: What makes them ineligible for the upcoming college season if they are underclassmen? Players and reasons for entering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 hours ago, buffaloaggie said: Players and reasons for entering More precisely that is list of players who were picked in previous years not college players year eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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