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1 hour ago, Captain_Quint said:

I can't believe that they still list 16 pages of TV listings for the week. That's insanity in 2018. 

 

I swear my octogenarian mother still subscribes to the local print edition mostly for the TV listings (she can't figure out that damn on screen guide thingy) and the daily horoscope and celebrity birthdays. You lose that base and what's left?

I haven't subscribed to a local paper for about half a dozen years, but I'd hate to see them disappear. I just don't see how they survive though.

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2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Now people will have NO CHOICE but to get their news from local am radio stations.    The future is yours Promo!

 

So far behind he's ahead! 

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Print is dead.  We recently went from getting the whole week, to just Friday to Sunday.  Had too many unread copies being tossed out.  Only parts of the Buffalo News I care about are The Gusto and the Sunday paper.

 

Find it funny when you read news that is 48 hours old by the time I get the paper.  Actually forgot what I’m reading happened.

 

I don’t need to read a paper that is full of MY opinions. I want a paper that has its own opinion, but is not biased.  Never believed a newspaper should force their options on the readers.  

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7 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

The loss of NeXt pains me. It's where I got in my start in journalism years ago. We all were contacted by the current manager asking us to write a short memory piece for the last one on Thursday. That'll be a bittersweet one. 

 

Simply put, the management of the News is so ungodly inept it makes me angry. I have never seen a bigger bunch of blowhards that don't know how to run the paper. They wanted to turn it into a mini NY Times, which is why they killed the partnership with the Associated Press. That was the beginning of the end. 

 

What do they have now? A crappy editorial section, a few good columnists (Sean Kirst deserves a Pulitzer) and some local news hounds like Maki Becker. 

 

They failed to adapt to the times and to the market. They could be doing well. They tried to be something that they could not. BN University? What a goddamn joke. 

 

Know how you feel, where I work it's the same thing, I don't know how we are still in business. We had a 40 yr employee go off on the management (I know not smart) and he was fired immediately. He was right though.

 

 

BN University ??

 

 

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It doesn’t take a rockwt scientist to figure out their model was severely outdated even a few years ago.  I feel bad because I fell that the content in the News is very high quality.  

 

The other thing that I think made everyone scratch their heads was the whole

Bliss Blitz paywall.  Again, the content and reporters (despite what some may think) are actually good.  But with so many news outlets available for free on the internet both locally and nationally,  the idea to pay for sports coverage didn’t seem like it would work.  ESPN is even having issues with premium accounts

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10 hours ago, Limeaid said:

They need to set up a retirement fund for Jerry on GoFundMe to get him out.  It is a race and he is slower than a snail and slowing them down.  Help Barnacle Bucky leave too. 

Eff that.  Let he and a few other columnists be assigned a Bookface identity, and they can pontificate from that platform.  Strictly on a voluntary basis, as the rest of the commentary is.

 

Hard news reporting seems in short supply there.  Their idea of news appears to be 'Smiles At' photo galleries.

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I've always had a subscription to the BN , might be time for them to go all online for a cheaper price and up to the minute news.

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Who will I not get my sports news from now? 

 

Hate to see anyone lose their job though. Hopefully they can pull through this. 

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19 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said:

Who will I not get my sports news from now? 

 

Hate to see anyone lose their job though. Hopefully they can pull through this. 

 

Thank you. Regardless of the salty takes Sully et al have had over the years - most of which warranted, frankly - these are still people with families. At the end of the day, this isn't the fault of the reporters per se, but that of the execs and digital people that ever really made TBN that enticing from a design standpoint. The site is clunky and not programmed well by an editor. They probably could go use a wordpress theme and have a better site in a week. 

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33 minutes ago, Infinitum said:

Good, I hope they fold up.  

 

Newspapers typically do.

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8 hours ago, billsfan1960 said:

When I lived in Buffalo, my paper of choice was the Courier Express, the writes were better along with the sports coverage in my opinion. Phil Randall (I think) was a great spots writer.

 

 

I think you mean Phil Ranallo.

Very funny guy. Used to write the "What's up Harry" sports column.

His bet stuff was Monday mornings after any Bills game.

Delivered that paper for three years.

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I will miss Jerry Sullivan's positive outlook on the Buffalo Bills

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I can't remember the last time I opened a newspaper. 

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6 minutes ago, THE SLAMMER said:

I will miss Jerry Sullivan's positive outlook on the Buffalo Bills

Another example of CTE?

29 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I think you mean Phil Ranallo.

Very funny guy. Used to write the "What's up Harry" sports column.

His bet stuff was Monday mornings after any Bills game.

Delivered that paper for three years.

Sullivan isn't fit to have emptied Ranallo's or Weller's or Felser's wastepaper baskets.

2 hours ago, ALF said:

I've always had a subscription to the BN , might be time for them to go all online for a cheaper price and up to the minute news.

To the [BN]competent, the up to the minute news means more photos of drunks leering for the camera.

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13 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

If they listened to the people over the years and stopped running all the good talent out the door they would be fine. They did it to themselves. 

It's their first negative quarter in the last 40, which is pretty remarkable given the landscape. The News is known as a well run paper, relatively speaking. The headwinds are just so strong now.

2 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

I can't remember the last time I opened a newspaper. 

I open and read at least one every day (NYT and occasionally others). It remains a better way to read the news (in my opinion) because you are visually more likely to see and read stories that are not in your own personal wheelhouse. I am firmly convinced that I'm a more informed person because of print newspapers. Reading things digitally, is fine, but it's not the same.

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I'd much rather lose 2 of the 3 local TV newcasts rather than the BN.  Talk about useless.  Weather and sports updates that you can get online 24x7, local crime and fire stories, a couple of fluff pieces, and the occasional investigative piece.  This is a media that should be reported as dying.

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11 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

I find it funny that a company owned by Warren Buffett would be in financial trouble. The Oligarch worth $75 Billion should stop taking so much money out of the paper and find a way to lower operating costs by taking less money back to Omaha.

Print newspapers aren't dying because of high operating costs.  Declining revenues in print and classified ads are killing them.  Buffet said he thinks only the NY Times and Wall Street Journal will survive in the long run.    And unfortunately Jerry Sullivan still remains alive, like an old scarred cockroach. 

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10 hours ago, stuvian said:

I guess this free online content is not such a great business model

It's overpriced!

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12 hours ago, Augie said:

What’s a newspaper?   

Exactly, I suspect all physical print media is hurting.  I know my company doesn't run any ads or coupons in physical print any more, it's all digital now.  And reading online is easier, faster, and doesn't kill any trees.  I'm a little surprised any physical newspapers still exist.

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It's the first quarterly loss in 10 years. While that's not bad by average business standards, it is bad for a Warren Buffett owned business.

 

My guess: If they don't turn it around soon, it will be digital only everyday except Sunday.

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1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said:

I can't remember the last time I opened a newspaper. 

 

 

same here.

 

 

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3 hours ago, HansLanda said:

 

Thank you. Regardless of the salty takes Sully et al have had over the years - most of which warranted, frankly - these are still people with families. At the end of the day, this isn't the fault of the reporters per se, but that of the execs and digital people that ever really made TBN that enticing from a design standpoint. The site is clunky and not programmed well by an editor. They probably could go use a wordpress theme and have a better site in a week. 

My take on Jerry is of a divorced alcoholic. Is he a family man?

 

 

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