wppete Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I believe Ray-Ray will start out as special teams and convert to CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 ESPN likes McCLoud because of the added ability as a return man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Pick did not make sense. He ran poorly at the combine for whatever reason. Ran at this pro day and allegedly scouts told him they had him in high 4.3's or low 4.4's. Has elite change of direction skills. One article I saw said "not the next Tyreek Hill after all" - so at least somebody thought he was. He is a gadget runner/pass catcher and return guy. Interesting piece. 4.56 made no sense, but if he is 4.40 it does. Hope that's the case, 4.3 or 4.4 and I'm alright with it. 6th round... is wat it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: My only confusion is that we seem to have a clear and concise vision for this team. It seemed, re: WRs, that was Size and Catch Radius. This guy is tiny and not very fast if we were looking for a burner. I’ve seen him play a lot. He has a specific skill set so clearly we drafted him for a reason. With a position that has 6 guys, you can have differing skill sets. The prototype can still be big guys with a gadget player or (gulp) water bug in the depth chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, mead107 said: He has 10” platform cleats. Maybe Kelvin Benjamin can give him a boost if Josh Allen throws the ball over his head. Edited April 28, 2018 by The Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 PFF has him with 5 drops on 133 catchable TGTs during college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 There's that deep threat we've been looking for. I guess in the 6th round you're looking for Special Teamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: SOMETHING must be up with St Brown forever team to continually pass him up. At this point, I wonder if he gets drafted. It happens. WR, and big school wr, often slide up fans boards because the get the best highlight videos. Then you get 120 guys projected as round 3-4 suddenly. Not counting the small school guys that slide into actual draft boards but not in our chatter. Even a guy like our own Stevie Johnson slid from mid round to 7th. Once you get past the unique talents there’s a lot of guys that are interchangeable and scouts catch on ones they happen to like for whatever reason Edited April 28, 2018 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Telling you the WRs are going to come after the draft as UDFA and Vet Cuts. Watch Den with how many WRs they drafted to move away from some of their WRs. Have some high priced VETs too. Very rarely going to find any impact player for the upcoming year in the 6th and 7th round. Edited April 28, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Well this draft pick was my cup of coffee after a fun night of drinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Not in love with him as a WR, but if our defense is as dominant as we believe it will be, Ray Ray is not a guy that opposing teams will want to punt to. Not a burner but his tight space shiftiness is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey152 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Do you know who else was 5’10 190 with a 4.5 40 and primarily a return man? Antonio Brown. Dude was a stud running back in high school, and he runs with the ball like one. Also has great hands (watch his combine video). You could do a lot worse in the 6th round. Edited April 28, 2018 by Mikey152 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 29 minutes ago, Rico said: Gotta love anybody named Ray Ray. Not really. I hope he will soon pick an adult name, like ummm, Ray or Raymond perhaps. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Mikey152 said: Do you know who else was 5’10 190 with a 4.5 40 and primarily a return man? Antonio Brown. Andre Reed and Jerry Rice were both 4.5 ers too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Mikey152 said: Do you know who else was 5’10 190 with a 4.5 40 and primarily a return man? Antonio Brown. These are one in a million, but I get your point of................... RELAX people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 He looked fast when he played in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Equanimeous still available and they take this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Steve Billieve said: He looked fast when he played in college. Film shows very fluid hips able to turn quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Almost nobody thinks they drafted him to play wr. All you haters should be ashamed of yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, mead107 said: He has 10” platform cleats. 'Frenchy' Fuqua? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Steve Billieve said: He looked fast when he played in college. It sounds weird, but speed and quickness are different. This guy sounds quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Equanimeous still available and they take this guy? Guess what all these other WRs as well that no one heard about are getting taken and who is still there? Equanimeous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Steve Billieve said: Almost nobody thinks they drafted him to play wr. All you haters should be ashamed of yourselves. Well if they aren't going to use him as a WR, and kickoff returns are being taken out of the game, they just used a 6th round pick on a punt returner? Edited April 28, 2018 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderGun Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Equanimeous still available and they take this guy? There's a receiver like this every year, that was projected to be a 3-4th rounder, goes 7th-UFA, and is never heard from again. I think they are hoping Ray-Ray is a Sproles/Woodhead type of player. I'll take that in the 6th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 He would excel when he had a full head of steam ahead of him with returns and reverses and stuff though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: Not in love with him as a WR, but if our defense is as dominant as we believe it will be, Ray Ray is not a guy that opposing teams will want to punt to. Not a burner but his tight space shiftiness is absurd. At this point we are angling towards being a team that hopes to hold the opponent to 10 and break two big plays on offense. As a 6th rounder if he might get 2-3 of those 32 big plays, it’s a win! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: Well if they aren't going to use him as a WR, and kickoff returns are being taken out of the game, they just used a 6th round pick on a punt returner? Better than trading up for Kickers and Punters. OOOO Also talk is a transition to defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iverwig Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Ran a 4.3/4.4 at pro day and was a two way player. http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article205265944.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: Well if they aren't going to use him as a WR and kickoff returns are being taken out of the game, they just used a 6th round pick on a punt returner? If you get a someone to contribute with a 6 that's a win. I don't care if they're just a longsnapper. He doesn't just do returns on st either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 He was a big time recruit. Didn’t follow him much since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Steve Billieve said: If you get a someone to contribute with a 6 that's a win. I don't care if they're just a longsnapper. Waste of a roster spot if he can't contribute as a WR(which you said he won't), and can't be on coverage teams because he is a twig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Iverwig said: Ran a 4.3/4.4 at pro day and was a two way player. http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article205265944.html From what I've read he ripped up his pro day. Was the bright spot so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: Waste of a roster spot if he can't contribute as a WR(which you said he won't), and can't be on coverage teams because he is a twig. There is nothing saying he cannot contribute as a WR. So many of these type of players become good players in the NFL From Antonio Brown to Edleman Late Round gambles in this position can and do pay off. Edited April 28, 2018 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I will choose to trust the process here. Supposedly also "thickly built" in the lower body so that he can not get destroyed despite his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: There is nothing saying he cannot contribute as a WR. ....except the poster who I was responding to stated that he wasn't drafted to play WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: Waste of a roster spot if he can't contribute as a WR(which you said he won't), and can't be on coverage teams because he is a twig. Lots of teams keep a spot for their returner. and lots of teams don't like using one of their marque players for the job either. He's played cb before. Clemson put him out there on kick offs not just returns. Was part of a lot of gimicy plays for them too. And just because he will probably never be a starting wr doesn't mean he can't contribute at that position occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Robotulism Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Maybe he will be a RB/WR combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, LabattBlue said: ....except the poster who I was responding to stated that he wasn't drafted to play WR. I think he said he was drafted to be a Return Man, didn't read anything saying he would not contribute as a WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Steve Billieve said: ...And just because he will probably never be a starting wr doesn't mean he can't contribute at that position occasionally. Well then you should have said that to begin with, instead of "they didn't draft him to be a WR". Capiche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 He looks to be very versatile. He will be given every opportunity to contribute to the team. Obviously, the Bills see something in him and felt he was more valuable than any of the other remaining WRs on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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