Sweats Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Simple question.....any chance we trade back into the 2nd and pick up some more potential starters. There is a lot of talent left on the board and arguably this years 2nd round is stacked deep with guys that could potentially help this team along. Or is Bean gambling on picking up what’s available for leftovers in the 3rd. Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Don't see a way to get there without adding next years pick which was already stated will not happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) No more trading please, Beane already got jobbed on the value to move from 12 to 7. Edited April 27, 2018 by Rosen-not-Chosen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest1981 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) I desperately hope not- if the Bills come on the clock this round it's likely only because they've traded next year's 1st, which would be disastrous. While I didn't like the Allen selection, even when I saw it coming, nor did I like the price tag attached to move up five spots... at least it didn't involve trading anything out of next year's class... because our roster is pretty talent-starved at critical areas and it would be a surprise if we weren't picking in the top-10 in all rounds. After what was a night that left a lot to be desire, to trade our 2019 1st would compound matters considerably. Edited April 27, 2018 by Midwest1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Midwest1981 said: I desperately hope not- if the Bills come on the clock this round it's likely only because they've traded next year's 1st, which would be disastrous. While I didn't like the Allen selection, even when I saw it coming, nor did I like the price tag attached to move up five spots... at least it didn't involve trading anything out of next year's class... because our roster is pretty talent-starved at critical areas and it would be a surprise if we weren't picking in the top-10 in all rounds. After what was a night that left a lot to be desire, to trade our 2019 1st would compound matters considerably. We still need 2 linemen and a LB so I hope they keep the picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Anything is possible. But, I don't see us trading back into the 2nd. So, guessing 10% chance we trade back into the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 No chance, they burned all their capital last night. 5 premium picks in the first 3 rounds and we'll have a linebacker to show for it on opening day -- oh and a project quarterback. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 It's possible if they see a 1st round talent available. CB Josh Jackson for example would be worth trading a 1 next year for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 No. We need to stay put. However, I would’ve loved to be able to grab either James Daniels or Will Hernandez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: No chance, they burned all their capital last night. 5 premium picks in the first 3 rounds and we'll have a linebacker to show for it on opening day -- oh and a project quarterback. I am surprised with the tilt on Allen...geez the guy was after all being considered as the #1 draft choice. Every QB had an issue and if we had drafted any of them, we would all still be complaining... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I'm wondering if they will trade down in the 3rd to pick up another 4th and and 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, ganesh said: I am surprised with the tilt on Allen...geez the guy was after all being considered as the #1 draft choice. Every QB had an issue and if we had drafted any of them, we would all still be complaining... Some people think being negative makes them more knowledgeable than most. No one knows how this will turn out, but Buffalo go the guy with the most potential who fits our climate and team very well. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 The Bills showed last night they remain inferior getting fleeced and giving up critical picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 I'm just saying that no one projected the move from #22 to #16,, so is there anything else up Beanes sleeve for the 2nd round?.............stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 No but UP within the 3rd very likely. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Sweats said: Simple question.....any chance we trade back into the 2nd and pick up some more potential starters. There is a lot of talent left on the board and arguably this years 2nd round is stacked deep with guys that could potentially help this team along. Or is Bean gambling on picking up what’s available for leftovers in the 3rd. Discuss I do. For me if Buffalo can find a way to get Chark this draft would be a home run. They need a deep threat on offense and Chark is the best one in the draft. I think Wr is the target and seems they are willing to go get the guy they like. He is on my radar but doubt he lasts long tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 I have a feeling that if the guy they want is available in the 2nd, Beane will pull the trigger. In a draft with the talent so deep in the 2nd round, you can't make the moves you did in the first round, neglect the 2nd and hope to pick up some scraps in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 59 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: No chance, they burned all their capital last night. 5 premium picks in the first 3 rounds and we'll have a linebacker to show for it on opening day -- oh and a project quarterback. Let's pretend that linebacker wasn't a top ten caliber pick and doesn't have the potential to be the best linebacker in the league in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 They don't have enough capital left to move up again after giving up all of their best day 2 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I think there's a decent chance we pick more than once today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, PaulieYayo said: They don't have enough capital left to move up again after giving up all of their best day 2 picks We have plenty of capital from later round 3 and on.........and don't forget about next years picks too. We have capital up the ying yang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Sweats said: We have plenty of capital from later round 3 and on.........and don't forget about next years picks too. We have capital up the ying yang. rounds 4-7 isn't getting them back into the second though, and didn't Beane say he was not interested in giving up next years picks to move up? Way too many holes to fill to give up their later picks for one player anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: CB Josh Jackson for example would be worth trading a 1 next year for. Wrong! Next years #1 is likely to be a top 10 pick. Edited April 27, 2018 by LabattBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) I think that the Bills may trade back up into the 3rd. They can use their 4th, 5th and a 4th next year (they have 2). I think that the Bills wanted to come out of this day with a QB, LB, OL and a WR. I’d expect WR and OL today and a slot corner, RB and BPA tomorrow. Edited April 27, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 The sexy picks have been made. I’d like them to stay put and focus on OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said: The sexy picks have been made. I’d like them to stay put and focus on OL. ........or a WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that the Bills may trade back up into the 3rd. They can use their 4th, 5th and a 4th next year (they have 2). I think that the Bills wanted to come out of this day with a Qab, LB, OL and a WR. I’d expect WR and OL today and a slot corner, RB and BPA tomorrow. If there's one thing that's abundantly clear at this point it is that the team will move as necessary for players they like. Trade back for White, Trade up for Zay, Trade up for Dawkins, Trade up for Allen, Trade up for Edmunds. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 I'll say this for the new regime, they are certainly making things exciting and when it comes to ever trying to figure out their next move, all bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Wrong! Next years #1 is likely to be a top 10 pick. Is that what the Bills think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: Is that what the Bills think? If they are realistic. What do you think their record will be this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, TheTruthHurts said: Is that what the Bills think? Apparently that was the last asset that they were willing to part with (and rightfully so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 26 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Let's pretend that linebacker wasn't a top ten caliber pick and doesn't have the potential to be the best linebacker in the league in a few years. Let's pretend we would have stayed at 21 picked up a great player and had two picks in the third period or let's pretend we didn't give away the entire second round to draft a project quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Some of this negativity is insufferable. We got our franchise QB. We got our defensive leader for the next 10 yrs. We have 6 more picks to fill holes on the roster. Life is good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Let's pretend we would have stayed at 21 picked up a great player and had two picks in the third period or let's pretend we didn't give away the entire second round to draft a project quarterback. Edmunds is more than worth 22 and 65, especially given the fact Evans/Vander Esch (both a notch below Edmunds and Smith) were gone before 22. You can definitely take issue with the fact we could’ve seemingly had Rosen and 53, 56 instead of Allen and a 5th. However, it seems fans on this board are the only ones obsessed with Josh Rosen. Cleveland wasn’t. The Jets weren’t, and they traded away premium picks. Buffalo traded away premium picks, and not for him. Arizona took him at 10, AFTER they tried to out-bid us for Allen (as reported by Shefter and others.) Edited April 27, 2018 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spielman Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 38 minutes ago, Mat68 said: I do. For me if Buffalo can find a way to get Chark this draft would be a home run. They need a deep threat on offense and Chark is the best one in the draft. I think Wr is the target and seems they are willing to go get the guy they like. He is on my radar but doubt he lasts long tonight. I'm with you....package some picks, move up and grab this guy. He's got 1st round talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Apparently that was the last asset that they were willing to part with (and rightfully so). That's giving away the pick. If they traded next year's 1 for a pick in the 30's it's not close to the same thing. Again, it depends on the grade of the player. Let's say they graded CB Josh Jackson as a top 25 player then I can see them trading to get him. They would only do it for someone they graded as a 1st round talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Let's pretend we would have stayed at 21 picked up a great player and had two picks in the third period or let's pretend we didn't give away the entire second round to draft a project quarterback. In terms of Edmunds that was a no brainer. He was a consensus top 10 player in this draft at a position of need. We didn’t hear more talk about him here because he wasn’t expected to be on the board at 12!! That was as easy a decision as Beane will have to make. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Edmunds is more than worth 22 and 65, especially given the fact Evans/Vander Esch (both a notch below Edmunds and Smith) were gone before 22. You can definitely take issue with the fact we could’ve seemingly had Rosen and 53, 56 instead of Allen and a 5th. However, it seems fans on this board are the only ones obsessed with Josh Rosen. Cleveland wasn’t. The Jets weren’t, and they traded away premium picks. Buffalo traded away premium picks, and not for him. Arizona took him at 10, AFTER they tried to out-bid us for Allen (as reported by Shefter and others.) 3 because when your team is picking #1 you don't have to be. As Bills fans, we knew it was going to be difficult to get into the top 5 so our pool of QB's to choose from was much narrower. When we got word that Rosen could drop of course we'd be obsessed with a guy that has shown timing and anticipation, made tight window throws, quick to process the defense most of the time. Why wouldn't Bills fans be obsessed with that given the QB history the last 20 years? This is not to predict how any of them will turn out but it's easy to see why Bills fans would be obsessed with Rosen given the conditions and picture being painted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: That's giving away the pick. If they traded next year's 1 for a pick in the 30's it's not close to the same thing. Again, it depends on the grade of the player. Let's say they graded CB Josh Jackson as a top 25 player then I can see them trading to get him. They would only do it for someone they graded as a 1st round talent. Asked a different way would you rather have Josh Jackson or Nick Bosa? That’s the type of decision that they have to make. Even if they have Jackson as a top 25 guy they will be chasing guys ranked as high as Bradley Chubb next year. You don’t pass on elite talents for solid starters. Beane knows that. He wasn’t willing to part with next year’s 1st for his QB, he certainly isn’t going to part with it for a 2nd day corner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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