Green Lightning Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, K-9 said: Do you really think a Cowherd interview would supersede their own? It has nothing to do with Cowturd. Rosen's never been that strident in interview, at least publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: No offense here but this nonsense and media and some fan 'fawning' over his 'outspokenness' (I'm sure he's not playing the 2018 media like a fiddle; and I'm not sure I know what that--outspokeness--even means), and all his "I just want kids to think on their own"----who the heck is he implying doesn't "think on their own?" Or help people? Are we hiring for missionary work or to win football games? This (the interview) just seems all so freaking stupid. And more indicative of problems not traits that espouse championships. Like all the ones he won in college. And the comment "if a coach doesn't challenge me we're going to have problems." What is his definition of "challenging him?" I'm sure most coaches here that and are like "sign me up!" Sorry.....just a free thinker here not succumbing to group think. And fyi I have him in my top 3 but its close with Jackson 3-4. Baker, Darnold, Rosen, Lamar. Also Fyi....some modern day NFL players who were oh so horribly boring and vanilla: Brady Big Ben Eli Peyton 11 Total Super Bowls Modern day "outspoken" (I still dont know what that means) NFL QBs and their SBs: No offense taken but you honestly think Brady, Big Ben, Eli, adding Luck and Peyton are vanilla? All 5 usurped their coaching staff on numerous occasions. Groupthink is buying into the structure that coaches know all. I don't want Tannehill, Bortles, etc. That's what you are getting from Allen or Darnold. Give me a QB that cares enough to push back when they believe a coach who is wrong. Jim Kelly wasn't vanilla -- the great ones seldom are...Rosen cares..and will express his opinion. BTW, McDermott doesn't operate a team the top-down way. He lets and encourages players to have opinions. He took feedback last year after Taylor was benched for Peterman and admitted publicly and privately that he was wrong. Rosen is the best fit of the top 4 for this team, ownership, and structure. So I am not offended--I just think you are looking at this the wrong way. I am looking at it from a Football Perspective. I want a QB who works hard enough to input on strategy and is passionate about winning. I see that with Rosen. Edited April 25, 2018 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: No one was elevating a Bruin team with a bottom 20 defense those last 2 years.... I laid out some of the concerns I have with Rosen. NFL teams must have concerns as well about his skill set and ability to lift a franchise. He is likely to slip because of those concerns not because he wants his coaches to challenge him everyday. Remember, Cam Newton had a bunch of character concerns (“me guy” ,“focused on other interests”) but he still went #1 because he was immensely talented. There are some significant flaws with Rosen and with the added “character questions” he probably slips a little in this draft. That is why I would not be eager to trade up as he is likely to fall past the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, JoeF said: No offense taken but you honestly think Brady, Big Ben, Eli, adding Luck and Peyton are vanilla? All 5 usurped their coaching staff on numerous occasions. Groupthink is buying into the structure that coaches know all. I don't want Tannehill, Bortles, etc. That's what you are getting from Allen or Darnold. Give me a QB that cares enough to push back when they believe a coach who is wrong. Jim Kelly wasn't vanilla -- the great ones seldom are...Rosen cares..and will express his opinion. BTW, McDermott doesn't operate a team the top-down way. He lets and encourages players to have opinions. He took feedback last year after Taylor was benched for Peterman and admitted publicly and privately that he was wrong. Rosen is the best fit of the top 4 for this team, ownership, and structure. So I am not offended--I just think you are looking at this the wrong way. I am looking at it from a Football Perspective. I want a QB who works hard enough to input on strategy and is passionate about winning. I see that with Rosen. You misunderstood me. I didn't mean vanilla on the field, locker room, or film room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) Never seen a pass completed from the Injured Reserve. Josh Rosen has a perfect record: He's never seen a season he's completed without injury. Real life GMs, they take that into consideration in a BIG way. Last guy this "pro-ready" with such an injury record? Some guy named Sam Bradford. You put that kid, behind our offensive line, as constituted, and you have a massacre. At the end of the day, in my mock I'd still move up to take him - but not beyond 5 or possibly, 7. You better have some picks to fill out that offensive line (not to mention, a QB for the defense). Edited April 25, 2018 by Tyrod's friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: You misunderstood me. I didn't mean vanilla on the field, locker room, or film room. No, you misunderstood my original post....that's what I meant. The interview was about football...not social issues or anything else. They didn't talk !@#$ Trump or hot tubs. Edited April 25, 2018 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) I have to laugh at some of you being on record in the last 3-4 weeks saying "he has no chance in the NFL" "No way do I want Rosen" "To many character issues" now with the last 3 interviews he has imagine this. EVERYONE LOVES HIM! haha .. he has been on my top 2 list for a long time so lets see what happens.. For the love of god why cant the draft be going on right now? right? lol Edited April 25, 2018 by PrimeTime101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Trade 12, 22, a second and third this year and next years 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I have liked Rosen all along- his politics aren't mine but that doesn't matter- my only concern is durability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 You should read this. Makes me wonder if he's the guy. Would he be a fit with McDermott and Daboll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 What would all you fanboys be saying if the object of your devotion sported a "F*** Obama" hat? Think about that. No, I mean think about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Blue on Blue said: What would all you fanboys be saying if the object of your devotion sported a "F*** Obama" hat? Think about that. No, I mean think about that. Who cares?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: No offense here but this nonsense and media and some fan 'fawning' over his 'outspokenness' (I'm sure he's not playing the 2018 media like a fiddle; and I'm not sure I know what that--outspokeness--even means), and all his "I just want kids to think on their own"----who the heck is he implying doesn't "think on their own?" Or help people? Are we hiring for missionary work or to win football games? This (the interview) just seems all so freaking stupid. And more indicative of problems not traits that espouse championships. Like all the ones he won in college. And the comment "if a coach doesn't challenge me we're going to have problems." What is his definition of "challenging him?" I'm sure most coaches hear that and are like "sign me up!" Sorry.....just a free thinker here not succumbing to group think. And fyi I have him in my top 3 but its close with Jackson 3-4. Baker, Darnold, Rosen, Lamar. Also Fyi....some modern day NFL players who were oh so horribly boring and vanilla: Brady - Really hmmm forces his own trainer on a coach and the TB12 on fellow players Big Ben - did yoh miss Haley and him on sidelines Eli - guess you missed the entire draft of his Peyton - guess he didnt steam roll every OC he worked with 11 Total Super Bowls Modern day "outspoken" (I still dont know what that means) NFL QBs and their SBs: Want to try again about the boring and vanilla talk about those 4 QBs again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Who cares?!? Bear with me whilst I list the names of half the people I know. This may take a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, Blue on Blue said: Bear with me whilst I list the names of half the people I know. This may take a while... Bye Felicias! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Blue on Blue said: What would all you fanboys be saying if the object of your devotion sported a "F*** Obama" hat? Think about that. No, I mean think about that. Ummm is he the most mechanically sound QB and arguably the best QB in this draft. If yes guess what WOULDNT GIVE TWO ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Trade it all bean. Rosen is our Brady. Whatever you don't trade, you will regret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Blue on Blue said: That's all you got? Slink away, 26. Ahhh look someone is but hurt because his try to turn political went down like a fart in church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Ahhh look someone is but hurt because his try to turn political went down like a fart in church. Stay on topic, fanboy. Tired scatalogical similes will get you nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Blue on Blue said: Stay on topic, fanboy. Tired scatalogical similes will get you nowhere. Fart in Church and a Huge Swing and a Miss. Beane do what you need to in order to Get Josh Rosen in the Buffalo Bills Uniform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Green Lightning said: It has nothing to do with Cowturd. Rosen's never been that strident in interview, at least publicly. Exactly, it has nothing to do with Cowherd which is why I was confused by your idea that this interview would “put teams off” because teams have interviewed him seven ways to Sunday by now and nothing would be gleaned from a late public interview at this point. I agree he has never been this strident in anything I’ve seen of him publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I didn’t dislike him before the interview, but I understood him better afterwards. He or his “people” are doing a good job of rehabilitating his public perception at just the right time. It won’t change what the teams think, but he’ll be better received by one fan base on Thursday. I hope it’s ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Get up to #2 and get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I'd be ok with Darnold. Fine with Mayfield. Jackson, sure. But I really want Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 6 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Get up to #2 and get him. NFL Ready! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) I think this Interview helped him a lot. It made me want him to be the Bills QB. That’s how effective this Interview was for me. The guy has a lot of passion and fire ? so that’s what I want to see in my QB. He even said he’s open to opposing opinions that he does not agree with. He thinks it makes him a better person. So In my eyes he is willing to do what it takes. Being a good leader requires being a good listener too. So if I can come around on this guy can you. Do you have a open mind. Can you read what I feel and say and not be critical because I changed my mind on him. Edited April 25, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 How can an interview on a crappy show make you completely change your mind about someone you were so strongly against? You don't need passion and fire to be a QB. You just need to complete passes. Eli Manning won 2 super bowls and is probably going in the HOF and he has no fire whatsoever. If anything you want your QB to be cool, calm, and collected under pressure. Rosen has a good head on his shoulders, everyone knows that. This was a good interview but it shouldn't change how you feel about him as a thrower of a football 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, kdiggz said: How can an interview on a crappy show make you completely change your mind about someone you were so strongly against? You don't need passion and fire to be a QB. You just need to complete passes. Eli Manning won 2 super bowls and is probably going in the HOF and he has no fire whatsoever. If anything you want your QB to be cool, calm, and collected under pressure. Rosen has a good head on his shoulders, everyone knows that. This was a good interview but it shouldn't change how you feel about him as a thrower of a football It's called "I'm going to tentatively say this interview changed me because I realize I was being ridiculous before but I'm not willing to admit that so I'll pretend this one interview changed me" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 FIRST DRAFT: JOSH ROSEN (1:00) Former UCLA quarterback Josh Rosen shares what makes his game unique and how he feels about the upcoming 2018 NFL Draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, SouthNYfan said: It's called "I'm going to tentatively say this interview changed me because I realize I was being ridiculous before but I'm not willing to admit that so I'll pretend this one interview changed me" Still waiting for SkyDiver to come around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 Rosen is on PFT Live this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 That still shot of Rosen above makes him look like he's a 50 year old college Professor of Mathematics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 hours ago, stony said: Still waiting for SkyDiver to come around. You'll need saint saban to come around first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 19 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said: I tell you what... I'm not the biggest Rosen fan, but this was impressive. Same here, he definitely made me feel a whole lot better about Buffalo making him their pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Prickly Pete Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) There's a reason why he had to do an interview like this to address "character concerns". The Aaron Rodgers thing isn't a positive in my book, because Rodgers is a douchebag. We might end up with "all the douche", but none of the greatness. I think Rodgers looks forward to having another high profile QB to support him in taking on "social issues". Not what I'm looking for in a QB. Maybe Aaron Rodgers wants to help him with finding a beard. Edited April 25, 2018 by OJABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 21 hours ago, Tyrod's friend said: Never seen a pass completed from the Injured Reserve. Josh Rosen has a perfect record: He's never seen a season he's completed without injury. Real life GMs, they take that into consideration in a BIG way. Last guy this "pro-ready" with such an injury record? Some guy named Sam Bradford. You put that kid, behind our offensive line, as constituted, and you have a massacre. At the end of the day, in my mock I'd still move up to take him - but not beyond 5 or possibly, 7. You better have some picks to fill out that offensive line (not to mention, a QB for the defense). I totally agree with the Sam Bradford comparison and many media use this analogy. That's why it's imperative we put most of our emphasis on O line improvements with whatever picks are left. Next year we'll need to spend cap $ on more olineman. I'm not denying Rosen will need to be protected, and that's where the emphasis has to be on.....Sorry McD but your defense will have to wait a bit... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: I totally agree with the Sam Bradford comparison and many media use this analogy. That's why it's imperative we put most of our emphasis on O line improvements with whatever picks are left. Next year we'll need to spend cap $ on more olineman. I'm not denying Rosen will need to be protected, and that's where the emphasis has to be on.....Sorry McD but your defense will have to wait a bit... Let me know when Rosen suffers ACL injuries to both knees. Until then it's a silly comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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