{::'KayCeeS::} Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just now, dickleyjones said: i am equally glad we have yet another comment regarding repeated threads... Exactly. It's the pre-draft time of year when threads proliferate like Tennessee Rabbits. The Nature of the Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I think Mayfield will be the best QB from this draft class. I think their will be a total of 3 good QB's to come out of this draft which would make the Jets look intelligent for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 His mechanics and feet are fine. He gets good depth in his 5 and 7 step drops i have seen him make. So I have no concerns in his ability to make drops from under center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, Paulus said: Actually, good point. I see what the op is saying. So, in reality, Peyton Manning is the equivalent to 6' 0". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: His mechanics and feet are fine. He gets good depth in his 5 and 7 step drops i have seen him make. So I have no concerns in his ability to make drops from under center I agree. The kid has played QB since grade school. It would take him all of one practice to relearn the position from under center. Of course to become proficient, he would need repetitions. I think that not playing under center is one of the least important minuses when they evaluate QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: His mechanics and feet are fine. He gets good depth in his 5 and 7 step drops i have seen him make. So I have no concerns in his ability to make drops from under center Dropping from the shotgun and the center are not the same thing. How can you have "no concerns" about it? Edited April 1, 2018 by {::'KayCeeS::} 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
145B4IDIE Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 the question we should really be asking is "how much do his eyes weigh?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheRockpile Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 33 minutes ago, Paulus said: Clearly the guy at the top has no future in pizza commercials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elite Poster Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, {::'KayCeeS::} said: Honest question: do you think it's a fad? the tilted shotgun ratio, i mean? it's something i think about... I remember when the NFL started tilting to passing more than rushing, and people thought that was just part of the ebs and flow of the game. Not a fad. Shotgun allows for younger QBs to enter the league and produce immediately. They spend their entire careers playing spread or shotgun, then have to learn something different for the NFL. It isn't logical. It's like training a doctor to do a surgery a certain way for 8 years, they get their license, and now they have to perform it differently. Also, in shotgun you have more playmakers on the field typically, you have a better vantage point to read the field presnap, and can run the ball just as effectively. The only advantage I see to under the center snaps is the ability to run play action. For the case of the Bills, we have Shady McCoy who is historically better running out of shotgun. Us being one of the few teams that ran under center a majority of the time shows how truly horrific the Dennison hiring, coaching, and offense as a whole was. Totally unfit for personnel, totally unfit for today's game. I hope Daboll brings something new to the table or we will be watching more of the same unless we strike absolute gold with our young QB. I'm worried the conservative, calculated nature of our FO will leave us with a spread QB like Mason Rudolph, since a guy we liked better didn't fall, and we try to fit a square peg into a round hole with a throwback under center offense. Edited April 1, 2018 by Elite Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 The honest truth is physical visibility + psychological knack = success. Drew, Russell, they have to be way better in certain ways than Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. Just a fact. Which makes what they do even that more impressive. As Meanie said in his thread, to be a QB, you have be the 1 percent of the 1 percent. An if you're undersized?.... Reality: 99% of eyes in heads are in similar locations relative to size. But I think this is an April Fool's Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 44 minutes ago, {::'KayCeeS::} said: Exactly. It's the pre-draft time of year when threads proliferate like Tennessee Rabbits. The Nature of the Beast. What? Tennessee wabbits are the only wabbits that !@#$ like wabbits? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, {::'KayCeeS::} said: Dropping from the shotgun and the center are not the same thing. How can you have "no concerns" about it? Because I have watching him drop from center as well. At his proday for example. He has good feet and solid mechanics. He gets the proper depth (might be a little fast in the drop but can be addressed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 This thread is really funny to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Because I have watching him drop from center as well. At his proday for example. He has good feet and solid mechanics. He gets the proper depth (might be a little fast in the drop but can be addressed) I get you. But you will agree that pro days mean pretty much nothing? I mean, he might as well be Allen then, if gameday experience is negligable. Just saying: I'm not a Mayfield hater, I actually like the guy quite a lot. But just trying to call a spade a spade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: Looking at Baker Mayfield's 2017 highlights I love his accuracy and movement in the pocket. However, my concern is he played exclusively from the shotgun in a spread offense. Did not see many "tight window" throws and many of his completions were based on hitting wide open receivers based on scheme and match-up advantages. I'm wondering how long it will take Mayfield to learn to play under center and how is his footwork. I like everything else about him and although I don't like that he's only 6'1", I think his pocket movement will alleviate that height concern. What is the boards thoughts on this? ...pretty interesting question even if the yipsters yap about repetitive thread.....so much has been made about collegiate spread and/or Air Raid QB's hesitancy/avoidance yet the Mayfield kid seems to be widely accepted here......why the hesitancy about collegiate spread and/or Air Raid QB's., yet he seems to pass the grade?.....BIGGER question is that we have NO idea what McBeane/McD/McDaboll envision as THEIR type of offense and as to whether Mayfield kid fits or can be groomed to fit......"character issues" could become secondary in their big picture analysis..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, {::'KayCeeS::} said: I get you. But you will agree that pro days mean pretty much nothing? I mean, he might as well be Allen then, if gameday experience is negligable. Just saying: I'm not a Mayfield hater, I actually like the guy quite a lot. But just trying to call a spade a spade. Prodays are negligable when it comes to alot. However a guy in drops or the mechanics of a QB do matter. You can tell if they are not smooth, struggle or forced (see Tebow). Mayfield though didnt looked forced, struggle in drops. They were smooth just a bit faster than I would expect like rushing them as opposed to proper timing. I do have issues with Mayfield but playing from under center in terms of mechanics and drops isnt one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: I remember when the NFL started tilting to passing more than rushing, and people thought that was just part of the ebs and flow of the game. Not a fad. Shotgun allows for younger QBs to enter the league and produce immediately. They spend their entire careers playing spread or shotgun, then have to learn something different for the NFL. It isn't logical. It's like training a doctor to do a surgery a certain way for 8 years, they get their license, and now they have to perform it differently. Also, in shotgun you have more playmakers on the field typically, you have a better vantage point to read the field presnap, and can run the ball just as effectively. The only advantage I see to under the center snaps is the ability to run play action. For the case of the Bills, we have Shady McCoy who is historically better running out of shotgun. Us being one of the few teams that ran under center a majority of the time shows how truly horrific the Dennison hiring, coaching, and offense as a whole was. Totally unfit for personnel, totally unfit for today's game. I hope Daboll brings something new to the table or we will be watching more of the same unless we strike absolute gold with our young QB. I'm worried the conservative, calculated nature of our FO will leave us with a spread QB like Mason Rudolph, since a guy we liked better didn't fall, and we try to fit a square peg into a round hole with a throwback under center offense. Thank you for responding in such an intelligent manner. I think we hired Daboll precisely to make us current with the RPO. I think Shady would be fantastic in an RPO offense. But who will run it? Everyone seems to love McCarron, so I do too...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Playing under Center is so overrated anymore. Look at the top offenses.. mostly all shotgun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blokestradamus Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 5 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: He definitely upgraded. Schaaaaawing!! Let's be fair; it was kinda hard for him to downgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Prodays are negligable when it comes to alot. However a guy in drops or the mechanics of a QB do matter. You can tell if they are not smooth, struggle or forced (see Tebow). Mayfield though didnt looked forced, struggle in drops. They were smooth just a bit faster than I would expect like rushing them as opposed to proper timing. I do have issues with Mayfield but playing from under center in terms of mechanics and drops isnt one of them. I hear you, and I hope so for his/our sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Drew Brees is 6'0, but how big are his feet? He throws off his tippy toes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Paulus said: he's clearly trying to cover up his enormous forehead with that head band. he's gotta be more like 5'9" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Mark Kelso listed at 6'5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, dickleyjones said: i am equally glad we have yet another comment regarding repeated threads... Joke's on you. The threads got merged for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Not the end of the world Mod but you should have read this before merging it. It was a legitimate unique topic. 1 hour ago, Paulus said: Woah is Manning photoshopped? Thats one high dome there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Paulus said: Manning’s eyes are probably at the same level as Mayfield. His height is half forehead. Well, I guess the giraffe neck helps too. Edited April 1, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 40 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Not the end of the world Mod but you should have read this before merging it. It was a legitimate unique topic. Woah is Manning photoshopped? Thats one high dome there! His eyes are at the equator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 47 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Woah is Manning photoshopped? Thats one high dome there! 1 That thing is a full-on five-head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) He better pay Colton Schmidt a lot of money for that number. Edited April 1, 2018 by thunderingsquid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonley1180 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) hes' not worth the draft capital we'd have to trade away to get into the top 5 . Now the top 10.. maybe Edited April 1, 2018 by jdonley1180 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 7 hours ago, MJS said: Joke's on you. The threads got merged for a reason. haha indeed. add my comment to the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/04/browns_will_host_josh_allen_sa.html It's QB visit week in Cleveland and they have reported that Baker Mayfield flies in tonight and will spend all day Tuesday with the team. If I had to guess, it would make sense that he would then fly to Buffalo since it's so close but he very well could go elsewhere like NY for the Jets and Giants meetings so we will have to see if any other news comes out. But John Dorsey said they will have the QB's fly in back to back to back so they can evaluate them one after the other. Allen, Darnold, Rosen are also scheduled to make visits. Should be an interesting week. Stay tuned for more news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Has someone shared this video already? He only missed one target... Baker Mayfield's pinpoint accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yep was just going to post this. Baker will be in NJ for the Giants April 8-9 and with the Jets April 9-10. That means he has some time between his visit in Cleveland today and tomorrow and then so could he be stopping by Orchard Park in between?? Baker Mayfield schedule: April 2-3: Cleveland April 4-7: ?? April 8-9: Giants April 9-10: Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, kdiggz said: Yep was just going to post this. Baker will be in NJ for the Giants April 8-9 and with the Jets April 9-10. That means he has some time between his visit in Cleveland today and tomorrow and then so could he be stopping by Orchard Park in between?? Sounds plausible based on proximity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Listen, if Mayfield is drafted by the Bills, of course I will be all in and support him the way I would hope any fan would. That said, I'm hoping it's not Mayfield. I'm just not convinced he'll be able to translate his college game to the NFL. If the Bills were to go balls out and go up to #2, I'm hoping it's for Rosen. If Mayfield is till there at 7 and Rosen is gone (which of course he will be) that's fine....it is what it is....you can't make NFL teams want to trade with you and you can't force guys to slip down draft boards. But to me it's only Rosen who is worth the full asking price to go up to #2. Otherwise, I'd prefer they stay at 12, take Jackson or only trade next year's 3rd or something to go from 12 to 9 for Mayfield (to get ahead of the Dolphins who reportedly love the guy). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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