cle23 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Doesnt seem so unreasonable to me. Cleveland has so many picks they dont need to break even. So they don't need more picks, so they trade high picks for more lower picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Titans: #1, #113, #177 (3088.6) - 105.84 Rams: #15, #43, #45, #76, Future 1, Future 3 (2670) - 136.04 129% Top 3 No other chart ive seen uses your values. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, cle23 said: That might be the dumbest thing I've read, and I liked the trade for Tyrod. Yeah, cause my comment was serious... this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: These are only our picks in the first 3 rounds this year Doubtful that anyone in rounds 4-7 provides more than ST help. So #1 (who might not even start the season) and 1-2 backups at most this year? That's Ditka-like, IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, cle23 said: No other chart ive seen uses your values. The 3088.6 matches your chart. 2670 matches what the Rams gave up. 15=1050 43=470 45=450 76=210 Future 1=420 Future 3=70 Total=2670 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Nothing says I dont get out of the house like debating value charts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lurker said: Doubtful that anyone in rounds 4-7 provides more than ST help. So #1 (who might not even start the season) and 1-2 backups at most this year? That's Ditka-like, IMO... Good point, but I still feel that with all our holes, we can find someone to contribute later in the draft. Whether that is another 5th Round LB like Matt Milano, 5th round DT like Kyle Williams, or even a late speedy WR to help stretch the field. Additionally, if all we got out of this draft was the Bills first franchise QB since 1986, I'd be fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 NFL Draft Notes - April 25 | Draft Analyst In the last hour, multiple sources tell me there’s a late push for Josh Rosen in the New York Jets' war room. We mentioned Rosen was still in the running with the Jets at the same time we quoted an insider stating Baker Mayfield to the Jets is a "done deal.” The belief is still that Mayfield still ends up a Jet if he’s available when the team is called to the clock, but the Rosen push is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: NFL Draft Notes - April 25 | Draft Analyst In the last hour, multiple sources tell me there’s a late push for Josh Rosen in the New York Jets' war room. We mentioned Rosen was still in the running with the Jets at the same time we quoted an insider stating Baker Mayfield to the Jets is a "done deal.” The belief is still that Mayfield still ends up a Jet if he’s available when the team is called to the clock, but the Rosen push is on. Smoookkkeeee!!! Woody Johnson isnt signing off on Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, BillsFan17 said: Smoookkkeeee!!! Woody Johnson isnt signing off on Rosen. His brother Chris is running the team with Woody serving as ambassador to the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: NFL Draft Notes - April 25 | Draft Analyst In the last hour, multiple sources tell me there’s a late push for Josh Rosen in the New York Jets' war room. We mentioned Rosen was still in the running with the Jets at the same time we quoted an insider stating Baker Mayfield to the Jets is a "done deal.” The belief is still that Mayfield still ends up a Jet if he’s available when the team is called to the clock, but the Rosen push is on. This is my biggest fear right here. I am going to be so damn nervous tomorrow. Actually, I already am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He can shove that trade right up his ass! No way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: NFL Draft Notes - April 25 | Draft Analyst In the last hour, multiple sources tell me there’s a late push for Josh Rosen in the New York Jets' war room. We mentioned Rosen was still in the running with the Jets at the same time we quoted an insider stating Baker Mayfield to the Jets is a "done deal.” The belief is still that Mayfield still ends up a Jet if he’s available when the team is called to the clock, but the Rosen push is on. 1-Mayfield 2-Darnold 3- Rosen 4- I puke all over myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: He can shove that trade right up his ass! No way! Might happen. Would be a ton, but I could see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 14 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Firing this up again! 13 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Doesn't matter what they do if Beane gets to the #2 pick. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakingfane Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 If Browns go QB at 1, we should work the three way with Browns at #4 and Giants at #2 so that we give whatever is necessary to get to #4 unless it's outrageous, then trade #4 and next year's 1st for #2. That way Giants know Barkley will be at #4 and they'll have two first rounders next year in case Eli really is finished. In addition to getting #2 this year, I'd want another Giants pick this year or next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 42 minutes ago, wakingfane said: If Browns go QB at 1, we should work the three way with Browns at #4 and Giants at #2 so that we give whatever is necessary to get to #4 unless it's outrageous, then trade #4 and next year's 1st for #2. That way Giants know Barkley will be at #4 and they'll have two first rounders next year in case Eli really is finished. In addition to getting #2 this year, I'd want another Giants pick this year or next. Why? Are we really that nervous the Jets will take our guy? If buffalo can get to the fourth pick, there is zero need to get to the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That doesn't make sense if you put Beane's comments about pick 22 against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: That doesn't make sense if you put Beane's comments about pick 22 against that. We'll see. Beane could easily be posturing to keep the price of any move down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Bills need a MLB bad. It makes sense if they want to keep 22 and give up next year's 1st instead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: That doesn't make sense if you put Beane's comments about pick 22 against that. I think it will be somewhat predicated on what the trade partner values more. The Browns at 4 may prefer 2019 draft capital while a team like Denver may want the two 1sts this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Bills need a MLB bad. It makes sense if they want to keep 22 and give up next year's 1st instead Next year's will probably be more valuable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Bills need a MLB bad. It makes sense if they want to keep 22 and give up next year's 1st instead You could be looking at a 5 win season in 2018. That 2019 draft pick is very valuable. Bills can get a veteran MLB in FA next year who will be much better than anyone who will be available at #22 this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakingfane Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 hours ago, BillsFan17 said: Why? Are we really that nervous the Jets will take our guy? If buffalo can get to the fourth pick, there is zero need to get to the second. Sorry I should have said, "If Browns take Mayfield #1 overall" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, kdiggz said: Bills need a MLB bad. It makes sense if they want to keep 22 and give up next year's 1st instead In a way it makes sense, but if you think the Bills might be one of the worst teams in football this year - and it's a distinct possibility - then that #1 next year could be a top 10 pick. I'm all for giving up this year's 22 and keeping next year's 1. This is especially true if what we're hearing about there not being a large differential in the quality of players from the end of the 1st round to the 3rd round is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, MDH said: In a way it makes sense, but if you think the Bills might be one of the worst teams in football this year - and it's a distinct possibility - then that #1 next year could be a top 10 pick. I'm all for giving up this year's 22 and keeping next year's 1. This is especially true if what we're hearing about there not being a large differential in the quality of players from the end of the 1st round to the 3rd round is accurate. other teams might think the Bills will stink and pick high but i doubt the Bills believe that to be true (even though it might be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mat68 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 hours ago, kdiggz said: Bills need a MLB bad. It makes sense if they want to keep 22 and give up next year's 1st instead They will get one in the 2nd or third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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purple haze Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, MDH said: In a way it makes sense, but if you think the Bills might be one of the worst teams in football this year - and it's a distinct possibility - then that #1 next year could be a top 10 pick. I'm all for giving up this year's 22 and keeping next year's 1. Top 10 pick was said to be a distinct possibility last season too; didn't happen. I don't think we see a truly bad Bills team in the near future. Bad for them will be around .500. They might get there in ugly fashion, but they'll get to at least 7. I base this this off of McDermott's operating procedure. Edited April 26, 2018 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Reading this thread it's clear our fans lack perspective on just how much it will actually cost when/if we trade up, it'll depend how far but especially this yer it will be expensive, very. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 So a British guy I know who works for NFLUK on their website interface stuff says he has inside knowledge and we are going to #2. His track record of being right vs wrong is about 50/50 in my experience so I wouldn't put too much stock by it.... but he does remind me that he called the OBJ to the Giants pick (although from memory that was a bit of an open secret wasn't it?) I am in the believe anything good mode now. 12 minutes ago, purple haze said: Top 10 pick was said to be a distinct possibility last season too; didn't happen. I don't think we see a truly bad Bills team in the near future. Bad for them will be around .500. They might get there in ugly fashion, but they'll get to at least 7. I base this this off of McDermott's operating procedure. Tend to agree. Getting the most out of his guys seems to be a trait. I suppose the flip side is motivation, leadership and strategy only take you so far. At the end of the day talent always wins in thr long run. At the moment we don't have enough of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: So a British guy I know who works for NFLUK on their website interface stuff says he has inside knowledge and we are going to #2. His track record of being right vs wrong is about 50/50 in my experience so I wouldn't put too much stock by it.... but he does remind me that he called the OBJ to the Giants pick (although from memory that was a bit of an open secret wasn't it?) I am in the believe anything good mode now. Tend to agree. Getting the most out of his guys seems to be a trait. I suppose the flip side is motivation, leadership and strategy only take you so far. At the end of the day talent always wins in thr long run. At the moment we don't have enough of that. Do we really have any clear idea who the Browns are taking at 1? Who are we likely targeting at 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: So a British guy I know who works for NFLUK on their website interface stuff says he has inside knowledge and we are going to #2. His track record of being right vs wrong is about 50/50 in my experience so I wouldn't put too much stock by it.... but he does remind me that he called the OBJ to the Giants pick (although from memory that was a bit of an open secret wasn't it?) I am in the believe anything good mode now. Tend to agree. Getting the most out of his guys seems to be a trait. I suppose the flip side is motivation, leadership and strategy only take you so far. At the end of the day talent always wins in thr long run. At the moment we don't have enough of that. If we're going to 2 it means either Cleveland isn't taking Darnold, or they believe the Jets want Rosen. Or Gettleman settled down and gave us a bro deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, Dr. Who said: Do we really have any clear idea who the Browns are taking at 1? Who are we likely targeting at 2? God, no. Another hour 45 of torture yet good Dr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Cleveland trading the 4 pick. It will be announced once they are on the clock so there's no opportunity to trade the 4 for the 2 if it's with us. UNLESS the trade is with the Giants after they trade with us. Doubt it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 10 hours ago, kdiggz said: Bills need a MLB bad. It makes sense if they want to keep 22 and give up next year's 1st instead 12 Rudolph 22 Evans or Esch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, USABuffaloFan said: 12 Rudolph 22 Evans or Esch Failure! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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