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She already looks disappointed. I like that in a woman.

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Food for thought:

 

IF...and remember I say IF...the Bills sign AJ, do you think it would impact their draft plans this year?  

 

I am not saying it will or should...but I am wondering if it would make them more comfortable staying at 12 and 22 and seeing if a QB they also like falls to them, and if not, take someone like Vita or Roquan instead.  Then if they didnt take a QB at 12, maybe look for a Lamar/Mason at 22, or even again pass and take a WR, DT, or LB (depending on what they took at 12) and look for a QB in 2nd or 3rd to compete behind AJ.  

 

Keep in mind, I want the stud QB at the top of this draft, so not advocating for this.  But, AJ was being viewed by some as a young promising QB, so wondering if the Bills would like him enough to the point it affects their draft plan, or if they would still keep trying to move up for a stud QB (thats what I would want) even with AJ on the roster.  

 

You’ll probably get flamed for this, but I have thought about this possibility.  I could see a scenario where we land McCarron and then load up on BPA talent in the draft.  Interesting...

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1 hour ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I’m curious to know who’s EATING CROW if this happens.

I will!

I liked the dude a lot that 1st rex yr... but didn't get why he never challanged red rocket and a McCaron led Bills team just turned to faded dreams. 

Now I just don't know why you'd put him and a rookie in the same room when both feel they shld start. Had we not started moving up he wlda been my vote for the gamble just bc of the unknown.

But I didn't/dont think he'd ever be down for the stopgap bridge thing. 

I guess if that's his only option it is what it is.

IF that's the case trying to become the next Pats backup as a spring board might be his best move.

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5 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

You’ll probably get flamed for this, but I have thought about this possibility.  I could see a scenario where we land McCarron and then load up on BPA talent in the draft.  Interesting...

 

Ha, yeah I can see the flames coming despite repeatedly saying its not what I am directly proposing.  But its a legit question, and one that would be foolish to dismiss if we actually sign him.  

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2 minutes ago, Perk71 said:

Tebow was released by the Mets today.  No commitments at this moment... Lol

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Are you sure?  I thought they just sent him back to his minor league club's spring camp was all. He was only a guest at the MLB spring camp and never expected to make that team.  Cut?  

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21 minutes ago, sleeby said:

She's hot but that's just way too much damned hair!  He must be constantly pulling that out of his clothes and his car and his pillow and his drains.  Then there's the waiting on her while she grooms it.  Cripes.

 

Seems like a good problem to have. 

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10 minutes ago, sleeby said:

Are you sure?  I thought they just sent him back to his minor league club's spring camp was all. He was only a guest at the MLB spring camp and never expected to make that team.  Cut?  

My bad. You are correct. I read an earlier report wrong. Obviously... Lol

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19 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Food for thought:

 

IF...and remember I say IF...the Bills sign AJ, do you think it would impact their draft plans this year?  

 

I am not saying it will or should...but I am wondering if it would make them more comfortable staying at 12 and 22 and seeing if a QB they also like falls to them, and if not, take someone like Vita or Roquan instead.  Then if they didnt take a QB at 12, maybe look for a Lamar/Mason at 22, or even again pass and take a WR, DT, or LB (depending on what they took at 12) and look for a QB in 2nd or 3rd to compete behind AJ.  

 

Keep in mind, I want the stud QB at the top of this draft, so not advocating for this.  But, AJ was being viewed by some as a young promising QB, so wondering if the Bills would like him enough to the point it affects their draft plan, or if they would still keep trying to move up for a stud QB (thats what I would want) even with AJ on the roster.  

There is no secret what the strategy is for this organization. They are going to maneuver up to get one of the premium qb prospects. The deal with the Bengals was a clear sign what their intentions are. The Bills are doing what the Eagles did when they traded up to get Wentz. The Eagles worked their way up the ladder from a lower spot and then were in a better position to make a deal with the Browns. I see the Colts at the three spot as the targeted team. If AJ is signed he has value both as a placeholder for the high cost rookie qb and if in the short-term he is relegated as a backup that is still an important role.  

 

This is just my impression but I get the sense that the Bills want to get a deal done before the draft so that they will have their position locked in and assured that they are going to get one of the qbs in the top group. So even if the Browns and the Giants use their first pick for a qb the qb well won't be dry when we go to the podium. 

 

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3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

If we pay this guy, I pray it’s only for one season.  I think he stinks. Might be better than Peterman. Might not.  Save the cash

 

 

just curious how you think he stinks? an nfl career with so little to base any real judgement on, I don't see how one can claim he stinks?

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4 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

 

just curious how you think he stinks? an nfl career with so little to base any real judgement on, I don't see how one can claim he stinks?

I have eyes.  So do the rest of the GMs.  Who’s still available?  You have your answer

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13 minutes ago, NewEra said:

If we pay this guy, I pray it’s only for one season.  I think he stinks. Might be better than Peterman. Might not.  Save the cash

 

Honestly, I think they are very close. Similar size and measurables. Both have big hands etc. Both run about as fast as Preston Brown. McCarron is probably what Peterman is in 4 years. I suppose the difference is that McCarron is developed. 

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9 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Honestly, I think they are very close. Similar size and measurables. Both have big hands etc. Both run about as fast as Preston Brown. McCarron is probably what Peterman is in 4 years. I suppose the difference is that McCarron is developed. 

 McCarron throws with more velocity, which is the knock on Peterman.

 

If you like smart, athletic QB's I agree, they are similiar in many ways.

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27 minutes ago, JohnC said:

There is no secret what the strategy is for this organization. They are going to maneuver up to get one of the premium qb prospects. The deal with the Bengals was a clear sign what their intentions are. The Bills are doing what the Eagles did when they traded up to get Wentz. The Eagles worked their way up the ladder from a lower spot and then were in a better position to make a deal with the Browns. I see the Colts at the three spot as the targeted team. If AJ is signed he has value both as a placeholder for the high cost rookie qb and if in the short-term he is relegated as a backup that is still an important role.  

 

This is just my impression but I get the sense that the Bills want to get a deal done before the draft so that they will have their position locked in and assured that they are going to get one of the qbs in the top group. So even if the Browns and the Giants use their first pick for a qb the qb well won't be dry when we go to the podium. 

 

 

I dont disagree with you at all, and hope we are going to keep moving up to get our guy.  But I also didnt expect us to sign AJ (which we still haven't, but its looking like a real possibility) who has potential compared to a retread Vet.  

 

But what is more interesting is that Denver signed Keenum, and now may not be taking a QB at 5.  Plus AZ signed two QB's in Bradford and Glennon, I doubt they will be trying to trade ahead of us anymore.   That only leaves Jets and Cleveland as sure fire QB picks ahead of us.  If Beane signed AJ, he might feel like 2 or 3 of the top 5 guys might all be on the board still at 12 and could be willing to wait to see how it all plays out before making any more trades.  He could wait til draft day and just do a short trade up to like 9 or 10 to get ahead of the Dolphins if guys like Baker, Lamar, and Allen are still on the board.  

 

All speculation as Bills clearly still haven't signed AJ...but just curious to what they think of AJ and if him and the moves Denver and AZ made today cool his trade up jets.  I hope not, but its an interesting scenario.

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

There has been zero talk about mccarron to Bills as far as I’ve seen.

 

I think we are in for a couple of surprises tomorrow. I recall last year hearing all about Patrick DiMarco and rumors about Stephen Hauschka in the tampering window. Then suddenly when free agency officially opened we had signed Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer. 

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2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I dont disagree with you at all, and hope we are going to keep moving up to get our guy.  But I also didnt expect us to sign AJ (which we still haven't, but its looking like a real possibility) who has potential compared to a retread Vet.  

 

But what is more interesting is that Denver signed Keenum, and now may not be taking a QB at 5.  Plus AZ signed two QB's in Bradford and Glennon, I doubt they will be trying to trade ahead of us anymore.   That only leaves Jets and Cleveland as sure fire QB picks ahead of us.  If Beane signed AJ, he might feel like 2 or 3 of the top 5 guys might all be on the board still.  So maybe he waits til draft day and just does a short trade up to like 9 or 10 to get ahead of the Dolphins if guys like Baker, Lamar, and Allen are still on the board.  

 

All speculation as Bills clearly still haven't signed AJ...but just curious to what they think of AJ and if him and the moves Denver and AZ made today cool his trade up jets.  I hope not, but its an interesting scenario.

What is telling is that so far AJ hasn't drawn much interest from the market. I still believe that he would be a solid pickup for us regardless what qb we draft. I think it is a mistake to  assume that just because Arizona and Denver made market qb pickups that they won't still draft a qb. I'm now not even sure if the Jets are going to take a qb with their first pick because they signed McCown and Bridgewater. 

 

My feeling is that the Bills have to take an aggressive approach to get their preferred qb. It would be a mistake to wait and then lose out. Your guess is as good as anyone else's as to what the Bills actually qb ranking is in this class. If Allen is added to the top tier grouping as many analysts believe then maybe staying at the 12 spot might be a reasonable approach to take. Jeremiah on the NFL Network had us moving up to the Colts's three spot and taking Allen. Options laid on top of options. 

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 I can see McCarron to Bills.  Although personally I don't see any FA QB worth their salt coming to Buffalo when everyone knows they are going all in to draft their QB of the future.

 

And I don't see whoever that is sitting on the bench for a year or more.

 

 

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1 minute ago, JohnC said:

What is telling is that so far AJ hasn't drawn much interest from the market. I still believe that he would be a solid pickup for us regardless what qb we draft. I think it is a mistake to  assume that just because Arizona and Denver made market qb pickups that they won't still draft a qb. I'm now not even sure if the Jets are going to take a qb with their first pick because they signed McCown and Bridgewater. 

 

My feeling is that the Bills have to take an aggressive approach to get their preferred qb. It would be a mistake to wait and then lose out. Your guess is as good as anyone else's as to what the Bills actually qb ranking is in this class. If Allen is added to the top tier grouping as many analysts believe then maybe staying at the 12 spot might be a reasonable approach to take. Jeremiah on the NFL Network had us moving up to the Colts's three spot and taking Allen. Options laid on top of options. 

 

Again, totally agree with you

 

One thing for sure, this has been an exciting offseason and this draft can go so many directions right now and it seems to shift daily right now.  Not sure if you saw the crazy huge trade brewing rumor thread, but who knows might be something we know tomorrow.  Its from some dumb twitter feeds, so likely BS...but they are saying some interesting things in the comments that at least make me curious about tomorrow lol.  Again, probably total nonsense as most rumors are, but hey, its at least made me curious

 

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3 minutes ago, dezertbill said:

 I can see McCarron to Bills.  Although personally I don't see any FA QB worth their salt coming to Buffalo when everyone knows they are going all in to draft their QB of the future.

 

And I don't see whoever that is sitting on the bench for a year or more.

 

 

For that reason McCarron could play the waiting game and pass on Buffalo trying to low ball him.

 

So this is a tricky sell for the Buffalo Bills in my humble opinion.

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1 minute ago, Figster said:

For that reason McCarron could play the waiting game and pass on Buffalo trying to low ball him.

 

So this is a tricky sell for the Buffalo Bills in my humble opinion.

 

I think it is easy to sell him on the idea that he will have a shot to compete for the starting job this year. He isn't going to get that opportunity anywhere else at this point. 

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2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I think it is easy to sell him on the idea that he will have a shot to compete for the starting job this year. He isn't going to get that opportunity anywhere else at this point. 

I'm hoping so

 

because the kid could take hold of his starting role for this New Era Bills football team and never look back.

 

thats how good I think A J is...

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2 hours ago, JohnC said:

What is telling is that so far AJ hasn't drawn much interest from the market. I still believe that he would be a solid pickup for us regardless what qb we draft. I think it is a mistake to  assume that just because Arizona and Denver made market qb pickups that they won't still draft a qb. I'm now not even sure if the Jets are going to take a qb with their first pick because they signed McCown and Bridgewater. 

 

My feeling is that the Bills have to take an aggressive approach to get their preferred qb. It would be a mistake to wait and then lose out. Your guess is as good as anyone else's as to what the Bills actually qb ranking is in this class. If Allen is added to the top tier grouping as many analysts believe then maybe staying at the 12 spot might be a reasonable approach to take. Jeremiah on the NFL Network had us moving up to the Colts's three spot and taking Allen. Options laid on top of options. 

McCown and Bridgewater on one year deals. No long term answer for the Jets at QB. They'll be drafting a QB in April. 

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5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I dont disagree with you at all, and hope we are going to keep moving up to get our guy.  But I also didnt expect us to sign AJ (which we still haven't, but its looking like a real possibility) who has potential compared to a retread Vet.  

 

But what is more interesting is that Denver signed Keenum, and now may not be taking a QB at 5.  Plus AZ signed two QB's in Bradford and Glennon, I doubt they will be trying to trade ahead of us anymore.   That only leaves Jets and Cleveland as sure fire QB picks ahead of us.  If Beane signed AJ, he might feel like 2 or 3 of the top 5 guys might all be on the board still at 12 and could be willing to wait to see how it all plays out before making any more trades.  He could wait til draft day and just do a short trade up to like 9 or 10 to get ahead of the Dolphins if guys like Baker, Lamar, and Allen are still on the board.  

 

All speculation as Bills clearly still haven't signed AJ...but just curious to what they think of AJ and if him and the moves Denver and AZ made today cool his trade up jets.  I hope not, but its an interesting scenario.

 

The Jets supposedly signed Bridgewater and McCown and still have Petty from last year’s draft.  I would think they signed Teddy to see how he does as a starter with McCown as backup plan. If they were going to draft one early, I think they would’ve just signed McCown.

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