PIZ Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 http://billswire.usatoday.com/2018/02/28/nfl-draft-lamar-jackson-buffalo-bills-combine/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I got a chubby reading that.......oh hell this draft needs to get here sooner rather than later.......thankfully we will have cooler heads making decisions for the team imo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Wow, I didn't know he was victim to 38 drops. I'll admit I don't follow college players much, but are the accuracy concerns he get nothing but hot takes from box score experts, or...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Wow, I didn't know he was victim to 38 drops. I'll admit I don't follow college players much, but are the accuracy concerns he get nothing but hot takes from box score experts, or...? A select few are in love with Baker Mayfield and/or Mason Rudolph and rip down the other prospects. Edited March 1, 2018 by Chuck Wagon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Wow, I didn't know he was victim to 38 drops. I'll admit I don't follow college players much, but are the accuracy concerns he get nothing but hot takes from box score experts, or...? Box score experts are abundant here, so are lazy comparisons to TT just because they can both run. Lamar is a better passer than most give him credit for. He is quite intriguing and would be STOKED if we got him. The two QB's I want the most are Baker and Lamar. Baker if we trade up, and Lamar if we stay put (unless Baker falls somehow to 21 then I would take Baker first). 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Box score experts are abundant here, so are lazy comparisons to TT just because they can both run. Lamar is a better passer than most give him credit for. He is quite intriguing and would be STOKED if we got him. The two QB's I want the most are Baker and Lamar. Baker if we trade up, and Lamar if we stay put (unless Baker falls somehow to 21 then I would take Baker first). 100% with you on this 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Wow, I didn't know he was victim to 38 drops. I'll admit I don't follow college players much, but are the accuracy concerns he get nothing but hot takes from box score experts, or...? I've watched him a few times and his touch/placement is not there. Even in the highlight clips his open-by-an-acre receivers are adjusting and slowing and veering to get under his throws. I've seen them downright halt in their routes before. It's bad and since accuracy can't be taught, I stay far away from Lamar (and Allen). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, arcane said: I've watched him a few times and his touch/placement is not there. Even in the highlight clips his open-by-an-acre receivers are adjusting and slowing and veering to get under his throws. I've seen them downright halt in their routes before. It's bad and since accuracy can't be taught, I stay far away from Lamar (and Allen). same stuff was said here about Watson last year..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 When I think of Lamar Jackson, I think of a shiny bronze bust in the bust HOF... He's not even 1/2 of what Kaepernick was coming into the draft, and I consider them very similar stylewise... STAY AWAY unless he's there in the 2nd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: same stuff was said here about Watson last year..... Those people were stupid. Deshaun Watson completed better than 67% of his passes in college. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, #34fan said: When I think of Lamar Jackson, I think of a shiny bronze bust in the bust HOF... He's not even 1/2 of what Kaepernick was coming into the draft, and I consider them very similar stylewise... STAY AWAY unless he's there in the 2nd... Oh please he’s done way more than kap did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Those people were stupid. Deshaun Watson completed better than 67% of his passes in college. Yeah but it was because his receivers were acrobats, or something..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Yeah but it was because his receivers were acrobats, or something..... Watsons wrs were very talented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I'm not a Jackson fanboy. I think I have stated my case in numerous threads. I don't think he is a QB who can beat you with his arm which leaves us in the same spot we are now. He is far more electric with his legs than Tyrod though. If we want to run a college style offense then he may be the guy. The Cam comparison isn't viable because Cam is 250lbs where Jackson isn't even 220lbs. Cam barely holds up from year to year so how do you think Jackson will fair? 15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: same stuff was said here about Watson last year..... Watson is miles ahead of Jackson as a passer if you have actually watched the two play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 John Murphy: Bills at their own 30 yard line. Lamar Jackson in the shotgun (because that's all he knows) with 3 receivers split wide. Here's the snap. Pressure coming right away up the middle! Lamar Jackson rolls out, he's going to take off! Jackson is at the 35, the 40, looking to get out of bounds and OH! Lamar Jackson got hit low by the safety and he is down and clutching at his knee. This is not looking good for the 21st overall pick right now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Oh please he’s done way more than kap did. In what universe? Marvel? -Or DC? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I question his judgement with him using his MOTHER to rep him and not an agent. It is utterly stupid to choose penny-pinching on a rookie slotted contract at the cost of draft position. If he had an agent there would have been a stronger response to all this WR conversion talk. I don't think this guy is surrounded by the right people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, #34fan said: When I think of Lamar Jackson, I think of a shiny bronze bust in the bust HOF... He's not even 1/2 of what Kaepernick was coming into the draft, and I consider them very similar stylewise... STAY AWAY unless he's there in the 2nd... So you’d draft a half talented Kaepernick(according to you)in the second round? yeah makes sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, #34fan said: In what universe? Marvel? -Or DC? Oh I dunno, in the universe in which he won a Heisman trophy? The fact that you made that comment at all was ridiculous, that you defended it is nothing short of reprehensible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: John Murphy: Bills at their own 30 yard line. Lamar Jackson in the shotgun (because that's all he knows) with 3 receivers split wide. Here's the snap. Pressure coming right away up the middle! Lamar Jackson rolls out, he's going to take off! Jackson is at the 35, the 40, looking to get out of bounds and OH! Lamar Jackson got hit low by the safety and he is down and clutching at his knee. This is not looking good for the 21st overall pick right now. Isn't that how most of us felt about E.J. and currently feel about Taylor? For the most part..the fans are fed up by that style of play by a qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: Isn't that how most of us felt about E.J. and currently feel about Taylor? For the most part..the fans are fed up by that style of play by a qb. As am I. Yet, there is a very, VERY vocal contingent of fans on here who want Jackson "because Deshaun Watson last year" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, PIZ said: http://billswire.usatoday.com/2018/02/28/nfl-draft-lamar-jackson-buffalo-bills-combine/amp/?__twitter_impression=true But Beane also said on John Murphy Show that he was looking for a QB. It made me think it's a long shot that they would draft Jackson unless he somehow falls. Keep in mind there were many critics about DeShawn Watson a year ago too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, #34fan said: In what universe? Marvel? -Or DC? You may not like him as a prospect and that’s fine but he’s had a much better college career than kap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Just now, BuffaloRush said: But Beane also said on John Murphy Show that he was looking for a QB. It made me think it's a long shot that they would draft Jackson unless he somehow falls. Keep in mind there were many critics about DeShawn Watson a year ago too AGAIN with the Deshaun Watson crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Just now, Buffalo Bills Detective said: AGAIN with the Deshaun Watson crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fair enough - but there were plenty of people that said similar things about Watson. Not saying Jackson will have the same kind of impact, but there are many parallels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Oh I dunno, in the universe in which he won a Heisman trophy? The fact that you made that comment at all was ridiculous, that you defended it is nothing short of reprehensible. Who gives a rats ass about the Heisman?! Tebow won the Heisman. It's not a reflection of ones ability to play the QB position. 4 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Fair enough - but there were plenty of people that said similar things about Watson. Not saying Jackson will have the same kind of impact, but there are many parallels No there aren't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: same stuff was said here about Watson last year..... By idiots who claimed he was the next Tyrod. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Just now, Chicken Boo said: Who gives a rats ass about the Heisman?! Tebow won the Heisman. It's not a reflection of ones ability to play the QB position. That's not what he stated, he said that Kap 1 - was TWICE the player Jackson was at this stage in their careers (this is false, the numbers are very similar) 2- Kap had "done" more in college than Jackson (this is complete BS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Earning the right to try QB before he switches positions isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. I guess you could say that about JT Barrett too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said: So you’d draft a half talented Kaepernick(according to you)in the second round? yeah makes sense If I'm the Bills, -hell yes... With 2 first rounders in my pocket, I'm already sitting pretty... I'd certainly take a risk in Rd. 2 if I still needed a QB and I really thought I could make Jackson into something... It certainly wouldn't be a terrible pick there. And to clarify, what I actually said was NOT EVEN 1/2 of what Kaepernick was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Who gives a rats ass about the Heisman?! Tebow won the Heisman. It's not a reflection of ones ability to play the QB position. Don't forget about "Johnny football" and Griffin 3. I agree lots of Heisman winners at the QB spot failed big time in the nfl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) He's a black qb. He is a cross between Jamarcus Russell and Antwaan Randle El until he categorically proves otherwise. Peace. Edited March 1, 2018 by Juror#8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 55 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Wow, I didn't know he was victim to 38 drops. I'll admit I don't follow college players much, but are the accuracy concerns he get nothing but hot takes from box score experts, or...? That certainly weighs into any evaluation, but if you take into account drops by Jackson's receivers, you also have to look at the number of drops by receivers of QBs in the draft who had a better completion percentage than Jackson. Essentially, whenever you do comparisons, you want to be sure it's apples to apples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I looked at Jim Kelky’s Stats at the University of Miami. I saw his competition rate at 56.5%. I heard Bill Polian say on the John Murphy show today say that no Quarterback has completed less than 60% of his passes in College and been successful in the NFL. Did I read Jim’s stats wrong? Was he not successful in the NFL ? Did I misunderstand what Bill Polian said today? ?please help me out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TtownBillsFan Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 59 minutes ago, offyourocker said: 100% with you on this Ditto. I want Baker badly, but I'm a Sooners fan, so probably alot of homerism on my part. But I saw every game Baker played for OU, ever snap, and there's not a bigger competitor, at any position, on any team, in college football. AND, Baker is crazy accurate, and crazy-good in making something out of nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Smokescreen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: I looked at Jim Kelky’s Stats at the University of Miami. I saw his competition rate at 56.5%. I heard Bill Polian say on the John Murphy show today say that no Quarterback has completed less than 60% of his passes in College and been successful in the NFL. Did I read Jim’s stats wrong? Was he not successful in the NFL ? Did I misunderstand what Bill Polian said today? ?please help me out? I think he was talking the modern league since the rule changes... but I wasn't listening so who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Oh I dunno, in the universe in which he won a Heisman trophy? The fact that you made that comment at all was ridiculous, that you defended it is nothing short of reprehensible. You know how many BUSTS own a heisman? Sh_t, they gave Manziel a Heisman... Doesn't mean jack squat... Kaepernick passed for more yards with a higher comp % Kaepernick threw way more touchdowns. Kaepernicck rushed for more touchdowns, Kaepernick GRADUATED with a degree in business management And, this was all after being drafted by the Cubs as a pitching prospect! Pretty ridiculous and reprehensible if you ask me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Just now, #34fan said: Pretty ridiculous and reprehensible if you ask me.. At least we agree on that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, TtownBillsFan said: Ditto. I want Baker badly, but I'm a Sooners fan, so probably alot of homerism on my part. But I saw every game Baker played for OU, ever snap, and there's not a bigger competitor, at any position, on any team, in college football. AND, Baker is crazy accurate, and crazy-good in making something out of nothing! That is what I want in a QB. A guy that wants to win so badly. Accurate. I think his size will be a factor at times but not enough to impeed his success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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