Fairburn: 5 Teams that Should Consider Trading for Tyrod Taylor

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5 teams that should consider trading for Buffalo Bills QB Tyrod Taylor

Orchard Park, N.Y. - - The Buffalo Bills are reportedly trying to trade quarterback Tyrod Taylor, but is what team would take a chance on Taylor’s contract? 

For the second straight offseason, Taylor’s situation is a bit complicated. He is due a $6 million roster bonus on March 16. The Bills would save $10.4 million in cap space if they trade Taylor before March 16 and $9.4 million they release him before March 16.

If the Bills decide to pay that bonus, Taylor would become much easier to trade. A team trying to trade for Taylor would be inheriting a one-year, $10 million deal and would probably only need to give up a mid or late-round pick.

Eating that money would be tough for the Bills, but they would essentially be paying $6 million for whatever compensation they could get for Taylor. Which teams would be interested? Here are a few who should be interested in Taylor.

Arizona Cardinals
Minnesota Vikings
Jacksonville Jaguars
Cleveland Browns
Denver Broncos

[The Tomcat]

I just can see that a 4th round pick is worth $6 million? 

 

Can someone explain to me what I'm missing?  I just dont see it...

 

UNLESS.....they are sending a message to get him traded before FA starts and that their open for business?

 

Enlighten me people...

 

 

[dollars 2 donuts]

3 minutes ago, The Tomcat said:

I just can see that a 4th round pick is worth $6 million? 

 

Can someone explain to me what I'm missing?  I just dont see it...

 

UNLESS.....they are sending a message to get him traded before FA starts and that their open for business?

 

Enlighten me people...

 

 

 

 

Maybe (and this is a big maybe TC, and pure fantasy speculation)

 

Tyrod, Glenn, 21 and our second rounder and maybe something in 2019 for 4.

Edited February 23, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts

[BuffaloRebound]

2 minutes ago, The Tomcat said:

I just can see that a 4th round pick is worth $6 million? 

 

Can someone explain to me what I'm missing?  I just dont see it...

 

UNLESS.....they are sending a message to get him traded before FA starts and that their open for business?

 

Enlighten me people...

 

 

 

Because you have no idea how draft is gonna unfold and will have to pay any other decent Bridge QB option more than that. 

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, The Tomcat said:

I just can see that a 4th round pick is worth $6 million? 

 

Can someone explain to me what I'm missing?  I just dont see it...

 

UNLESS.....they are sending a message to get him traded before FA starts and that their open for business?

 

Enlighten me people...

 

 

The bigger concern isn't the money as it is who will be the veteran qb who replaces Taylor? Even if the Bills are able to trade up for a top three qb prospect, and make no mistake that is very much in doubt, then who replaces Taylor? Another issue is how much is another veteran going to cost? There are so many layers to this issue. It's not only what you want to do but also what you are able to do. I'm not a Taylor fan and will never be. Given my position this is not an easy call for the organization. 

 

One option I would consider (and rile up a lot of people) is acquire Siemien and then either cut or trade Tyrod. In that way you have a player with some experience and have him at a very cheap price.  There is an assumption that you will draft a high end qb prospect who in the not too distant future will be ready to play. 

[BmarvB]

It only makes sense to keep him until somebody beats him out.

[Luxy312]

1 minute ago, JohnC said:

The bigger concern isn't the money as it is who will be the veteran qb who replaces Taylor? Even if the Bills are able to trade up for a top three qb prospect, and make no mistake that is very much in doubt, then who replaces Taylor? Another issue is how much is another veteran going to cost? There are so many layers to this issue. It's not only what you want to do but also what you are able to do. I'm not a Taylor fan and will never be. Given my position this is not an easy call for the organization. 

 

One option I would consider (and rile up a lot of people) is acquire Siemien and then either cut or trade Tyrod. In that way you have a player with some experience and have him at a very cheap price.  There is an assumption that you will draft a high end qb prospect who in the not too distant future will be ready to play. 

 

I may be alone in this thinking, but if the Bills trade up in the draft to "get their guy" and Tyrod is gone, then there you have your starter.  Historically, it is few and far between that teams pick a QB even looking at the top-10 and then leave them sit on the bench.  It's even less common for a team to swap their starting quarterback for a free agent or another player in a trade and then draft another QB early.  

[Hurricane]

I am going to say Baltimore..

[DCOrange]

1 minute ago, Hurricane said:

I am going to say Baltimore..

 

Hard to imagine them paying Tyrod's salary on top of what they're already paying Flacco. They can move on from Flacco in a year when Tyrod will be a free agent if they want to. I think Baltimore is far more likely to draft a QB than to trade for one like Tyrod.

22 minutes ago, The Tomcat said:

I just can see that a 4th round pick is worth $6 million? 

 

Can someone explain to me what I'm missing?  I just dont see it...

 

UNLESS.....they are sending a message to get him traded before FA starts and that their open for business?

 

Enlighten me people...

 

 

In this hypothetical scenario, they aren't paying $6 million just for a mid-round pick. They're paying $6 million so that they don't get stuck with Nathan Peterman and a meh prospect as their only QB options.

Edited February 23, 2018 by DCOrange

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, Luxy312 said:

 

I may be alone in this thinking, but if the Bills trade up in the draft to "get their guy" and Tyrod is gone, then there you have your starter.  Historically, it is few and far between that teams pick a QB even looking at the top-10 and then leave them sit on the bench.  It's even less common for a team to swap their starting quarterback for a free agent or another player in a trade and then draft another QB early.  

Even if you get your top tier qb prospect you still need to bring in a veteran qb. Whether it is as a backup or a short term starter I would think you still need a veteran qb on the roster. It would be simply be too risky to have Peterman be your fist backup qb. The advantage of having a qb like Siemien is that he has some experience and he would be cheap. 

[BuffaloRebound]

2 minutes ago, Luxy312 said:

 

I may be alone in this thinking, but if the Bills trade up in the draft to "get their guy" and Tyrod is gone, then there you have your starter.  Historically, it is few and far between that teams pick a QB even looking at the top-10 and then leave them sit on the bench.  It's even less common for a team to swap their starting quarterback for a free agent or another player in a trade and then draft another QB early.  

 

Exactly.  No decent free agent is coming here when the Bills are obviously interested in a 1st round QB without getting a crazy contract like Glennon.  As much as most of want an upgrade over Taylor, the guy is respected in the locker room and under contract for another year at a reasonable number. 

[xRUSHx]

I can not see the Jags wanting Tyrod after seeing first hand what he did in the playoffs, I think they will stay with Bortles and that is for sure the better option IMO. The other teams maybe and that's a BIG maybe. I think this is OBD telling teams look man we will pay the bonus give us a pick for it or help us move up in a pavkage deal. If no bites before it is due they just dont pay it and dump him to let teams just fight over his rights and said teams end up paying even more for him in FA if Tyrod would even pick said team. It costs us 6mill to get a pick but also helps make it happen, just gets me mad if they pay it and get stuck with him for 2018 season just to add to 2019 dead cap hit he is no mentor that is for sure.

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, Hurricane said:

I am going to say Baltimore..

Their cap situation is brutal. Can’t commit any more money to the QB position than they already do.

[Virgil]

It’s worth 4 mil if we are able to package it to move up. 

[Luxy312]

Just now, BuffaloRebound said:

 

Exactly.  No decent free agent is coming here when the Bills are obviously interested in a 1st round QB without getting a crazy contract like Glennon.  As much as most of want an upgrade over Taylor, the guy is respected in the locker room and under contract for another year at a reasonable number. 

 

To this point, I could see the Bills sitting tight at 21 and seeing what happens.  Given the guys that should be out there and available and the fact that there's 6 QB's projected to be potential first round value, I can't fathom 6 QB's being picked with the first 20 picks.  It could happen, but would be the first time in NFL history.

[Nihilarian]

I could see Denver, Arizona if they miss out on the Captain Kirk sweepstakes.

 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, Nihilarian said:

I could see Denver, Arizona if they miss out on the Captain Kirk sweepstakes.

 

He'd be a relatively cheap and decent veteran alternative for any of the teams that miss out on Cousins that would allow them time to develop a prospect. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 minutes ago, The Tomcat said:

I just can see that a 4th round pick is worth $6 million? 

Can someone explain to me what I'm missing?  I just dont see it...

UNLESS.....they are sending a message to get him traded before FA starts and that their open for business?

Enlighten me people...

 

I don't think the Bills are looking for a 4th round pick or counting a 4th round pick as worth $6M

 

I think they are looking at it several ways:

1) Insurance for them against having to negotiate from a position of QB-lessness in FA/draft.  They aren't under the gun to land someone in 2 days.

 

2) Tyrod's trade value will be higher after the smoke clears from the first round of QB FA and some teams get left out, and after the combine clarifies the draft board for teams.

They might even pull an Eagles and see if injuries make a team desperate for a fill-in QB who can break even on wins

 

3) What if they aren't trying to get a late-round pick, but are trying to swap up in the 1st?  Maybe they could nibble their way up before the draft.  Perhaps (say) Arizona misses out on their top FA guy, and thinks the draft QB they favor will be there at the bottom of the 1st/top of the 2nd.  If they like Tyrod as a bridge QB, perhaps it would be in their interest to take Tyrod and a 3rd or 4th round pick to swap #15 for #21

[KDIGGZ]

someone will want him.  not because he's good but because he's cheap.  $10 mil for a starting QB or even a very good backup is cheap.  someone like Keenum is going to want double that and he's not much better.  if you are the Browns for instance and you draft a top QB it would make sense to have a bridge QB like Tyrod who is cheap and can start for you in the meantime.  same goes for the Cardinals, especially if they draft Lamar Jackson who has a similar skill set and would run the same type of offnense

[Luxy312]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't think the Bills are looking for a 4th round pick or counting a 4th round pick as worth $6M

 

I think they are looking at it several ways:

1) Insurance for them against having to negotiate from a position of QB-lessness in FA/draft.  They aren't under the gun to land someone in 2 days.

 

2) Tyrod's trade value will be higher after the smoke clears from the first round of QB FA and some teams get left out, and after the combine clarifies the draft board for teams.

They might even pull an Eagles and see if injuries make a team desperate for a fill-in QB who can break even on wins

 

3) What if they aren't trying to get a late-round pick, but are trying to swap up in the 1st?  Maybe they could nibble their way up before the draft.  Perhaps (say) Arizona misses out on their top FA guy, and thinks the draft QB they favor will be there at the bottom of the 1st/top of the 2nd.  If they like Tyrod as a bridge QB, perhaps it would be in their interest to take Tyrod and a 3rd or 4th round pick to swap #15 for #21

 

I like the thought process, but would add one observation.  Any team that takes Taylor will have to be comfortable with a guy that is not going to win them games.  He won't lose games, but he's not going to win them either.  Candidate teams would have to have a top ten defense next year to be able to justify him as their starter.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

arizona.

 

 

get it done OBD!!

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[GoBills808]

5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It’s for these two reasons I see him gone before 6/1. 

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

 

Exactly.  No decent free agent is coming here when the Bills are obviously interested in a 1st round QB without getting a crazy contract like Glennon.  As much as most of want an upgrade over Taylor, the guy is respected in the locker room and under contract for another year at a reasonable number. 

 

Yup!  

 

He is the BEST choice for a Bridge QB.  He has 1 year left on his deal, so he clears the way next year no matter what for the rookie to take over (if he had not already).  Signing a quality temp vet here is going to take at least a 2 year deal, if not more, at a higher cost than TT.  So that means once the Rookie takes over this year or beginning of next, we will have a high priced backup vet on the bench chewing up cap space.  I mean some people think the better vets, who will have plenty of suitors, are just gonna do the Bills a favor and come to this bad weather team and play 1 year, or maybe part or not at all if the rookie comes on fast.  The guys people want are guys who can start in this league.  

 

Better to have someone like TT, who will be cheaper this year too, come off the books in 2019 and go out sign a cheap backup contract at that point and have the extra cap space. moving forward.

 

Not to mention, he knows the team and players, is the hardest working guy on the team, respected in the locker room as a player and leader, has a winning record for Bills despite 2 HC's and 3 OC's, and just led the Bills to the playoffs for first time in 17 years.  

[TigerJ]

1 hour ago, The Tomcat said:

I just can see that a 4th round pick is worth $6 million? 

 

Can someone explain to me what I'm missing?  I just dont see it...

 

UNLESS.....they are sending a message to get him traded before FA starts and that their open for business?

 

Enlighten me people...

 

 

It's all about the cap.  A few million is nothing to these owners who are raking in the big bucks.  If the Bills can do everything they want to do with the cap space they'll have after trading Tyrod, they'll do it if they think it makes the team better.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

I agree with those who say Arizona, but also think they might be hesitant to part with one of their only 5 draft picks this year. 

[SoCal Deek]

These sorts of negotiations and trade values always amaze me.  There isn't a Front Office in the entire League that hasn't seen Tyrod play.  They all know what he can do.  There are no lingering injury issues, or question marks based on a lack of film. If the Bills don't want him, why would any other team?

[PBLESS]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Yup!  

 

He is the BEST choice for a Bridge QB.  He has 1 year left on his deal, so he clears the way next year no matter what for the rookie to take over (if he had not already).  Signing a quality temp vet here is going to take at least a 2 year deal, if not more, at a higher cost than TT.  So that means once the Rookie takes over this year or beginning of next, we will have a high priced backup vet on the bench chewing up cap space.  I mean some people think the better vets, who will have plenty of suitors, are just gonna do the Bills a favor and come to this bad weather team and play 1 year, or maybe part or not at all if the rookie comes on fast.  The guys people want are guys who can start in this league.  

 

Better to have someone like TT, who will be cheaper this year too, come off the books in 2019 and go out sign a cheap backup contract at that point and have the extra cap space. moving forward.

 

Not to mention, he knows the team and players, is the hardest working guy on the team, respected in the locker room as a player and leader, has a winning record for Bills despite 2 HC's and 3 OC's, and just led the Bills to the playoffs for first time in 17 years.  

I agree with your post and would emphasize a couple of points:  Tyrod is VERY well respected by the team and is an acknowledged leader. We ARE going to lose Eric Wood and may well lose ZO and KYLE. I don't think we want to lose most of this teams leaders who seemed very important to our locker room last year. I would hate for us to trade away are high picks that we need to build our lineup with players who won't break the bank [ Salary cap] for the next 4 years. While Tyrod isn't going to take us to a Super Bowl, I believe if our QBs were surrounded by a better crop of players and an OC who would build an offense around our strengths, and using the draft and free agency to build a defense that doesn't give up a ton of points, then we could have time to develope whatever rookie QB that falls to us at 21 or Peterman. [ who I STILL have confidence in]. I'll always wonder what would have happened in the famous 5 interception game, if Demarco had caught that perfectly thrown pass and we'd gone in to score instead of handing it to an LA linebacker for a TD. At least 2 other ints were caused by a complete breakdown of pass protection.

[JohnC]

The mistake some people make is that they assume Tyrod has value on the market. He doesn't. The obvious reason is that he is a known quantity. He and his agent last year had an opportunity to survey the market and make the best deal they could for themselves. Who was interested? No one. The GM who lost his authority simply wanted to cut him and be done with him. The incoming HC, and essentially acting GM, was willing to keep him on the condition that he scale down his contract. He did. 

 

What's the point of going through any year of mediocrity? Although his contract isn't onerous for a  starter it is poor value for his standard output. I would rather bring in a qb such as Simian as either a short term starter or as a backup to a rookie starter. The cost for Simian would  not only be a lot less but it also would give this team more cap flexibility. Keeping Tyrod another year is another year of not facing the inevitable fact about him i.e. that he is not good enough. It's time to move on and end this lingering issue. It's just time to make a decision that needs to be made sooner rather than later. 

[SoTier]

So, Taylor is so bad that the majority of fans here (and some commentators as well apparently) think that just about any of the has been or never were veteran FA QBs available not named Brees, Cousins or  Bradford will be better, but then in the next breath they expect other teams will fall all over themselves to trade for him.  That's really stupid, dudes.  If Taylor were as useless as the denziens of TBD believe, no team will trade for him -- and if teams are willing to trade for him, maybe the Bills ought to consider keeping him until they at least have 1 QB on the roster better than Nathan Peterman, and preferably 2.

[26CornerBlitz]

Rob Quinn has his own list of candidate teams.

 

Top 7 trade destinations for Bills QB Tyrod Taylor

Minnesota Vikings
Denver Broncos
Cleveland Browns
New Orleans Saints
Arizona Cardinals
Jacksonville Jaguars
New York Jets

[Wily Dog]

I have a solution for the Bills and Denver. Trade Taylor for both Simian, and Chad Kelly. 

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Wily Dog said:

I have a solution for the Bills and Denver. Trade Taylor for both Simian, and Chad Kelly. 

 

No dice. I doubt the Bills would want either of them.

[Punching Bag]

On 2/23/2018 at 10:23 AM, JohnC said:

Even if you get your top tier qb prospect you still need to bring in a veteran qb. Whether it is as a backup or a short term starter I would think you still need a veteran qb on the roster. It would be simply be too risky to have Peterman be your first backup qb. The advantage of having a qb like Siemien is that he has some experience and he would be cheap. 

 

Bills went with it last year with Peteredman as first backup QB and cannot see them changing that philosophy unless they can find someone better to throw balls to DBs.

3 minutes ago, Wily Dog said:

I have a solution for the Bills and Denver. Trade Taylor for both Simian, and Chad Kelly. 

 

We have heard nothing about Chad Kelly recently and Denver appears to be in the market for a QB.

[JPP]

4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

No dice. I doubt the Bills would want either of them.

Simien is no better maybe worse and Kelly is completely unproven.......

[Wily Dog]

It would depend on Kelly's maturity , i assume .

[26CornerBlitz]

5 minutes ago, JPP said:

Simien is no better maybe worse and Kelly is completely unproven.......

 

Siemian is far worse and Kelly is a non-entity with character concerns.  If Kelly were any kind of prospect, he'd be in the future plans for Denver and he simply isn't.

Edited February 24, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[NewEra]

On 2/23/2018 at 9:59 AM, The Tomcat said:

I just can see that a 4th round pick is worth $6 million? 

 

Can someone explain to me what I'm missing?  I just dont see it...

 

UNLESS.....they are sending a message to get him traded before FA starts and that their open for business?

 

Enlighten me people...

 

 

It’s a ONE year 6 mill cap hit to acquire a possible starter making nickels for 4 years.  We also don’t have a capable starter on the team, other than TT.  I’m not a TT fan boy, but I’d rather have TT for 1 season than case keenum  at 20mill for the next 3-4 years.  Bradford, broken.  teddy, meh.  cousins.... 30+mill a year?  Not sure why you need to be enlightened.  It’s tough to move on from a somewhat capable starter on a 1 year relatively cheap contract when you have no one to replace him.  IF we sign a FA in the first couple days of FA, he’ll be cut.  But as of the time this was reported (keeping TT) we have no replacement and we have no way to acquire a replacement.  Just chill.  Keeping our options open is the best decision imo.  Cutting him now makes zero sense.

On 2/23/2018 at 12:08 PM, JohnBonhamRocks said:

I agree with those who say Arizona, but also think they might be hesitant to part with one of their only 5 draft picks this year. 

7 picks now

[JPP]

1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Siemian is far worse and Kelly is a non-entity with character concerns.  If Kelly was any kind of prospect, he'd be in the future plans for Denver and he simply isn't.

Agreed just didnt comprehend why that poster would suggest replacing Taylor with those 2 options (well unless tanking on a grand scale is the only option by that suggestion).....there are much better scenarios if there going to be named IMO......

[Wily Dog]

2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Siemian is far worse and Kelly is a non-entity with character concerns.  If Kelly was any kind of prospect, he'd be in the future plans for Denver and he simply isn't.

Kelly has been working with an NFL  QB in California for awhile so i think if he does what his uncle told him to do.... Shut up and listen, there may be promise for him. Simian is about equal to Taylor.