PIZ Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) Didn't paste like I wanted. You can delete if it's too big. PICK 1 Sam Darnold - QB, USC The Browns finally land their franchise signal-caller. PICK 2 Saquon Barkley - RB, Penn State I could easily see the Giants addressing the quarterback spot here, but instead they opt for the best player in the draft. PICK 3 Bradley Chubb - DE, N.C. State The Colts have several needs to address, but a premier pass rusher is at the top of the list. PICK 4 Minkah Fitzpatrick - DB, Alabama The Browns need more dynamic playmakers on both sides of the ball and Fitzpatrick is the best option available. PICK 5 Quenton Nelson - OG, Notre Dame I think the Broncos will address their quarterback need in free agency, which would free them up to take the best available player in this spot. Nelson is the best interior O-line prospect to enter the draft in a long time. PICK 6 Josh Rosen - QB, UCLA Rosen is ready to start right now and he would give the Jets a key building block on the offensive side of the ball. PICK 7 Marcus Davenport - DE, UTSA Davenport reminds me of Ziggy Ansah coming out of BYU, and the Bucs need to add some life to their pass rush. PICK 8 Denzel Ward - CB, Ohio State The Bears need some offensive firepower, but they can accomplish that in free agency and the middle portion of the draft. Ward lacks ideal size, but he's a dynamic playmaker with the tools to play inside or outside. PICK 9 Tremaine Edmunds - LB, Virginia Tech Edmunds is one of my favorite players in the draft. He has a rare blend of size, speed and athleticism. He would be a perfect complement to Reuben Foster at the second level of the49ers' defense. PICK 9 Roquan Smith - LB, Georgia Smith is a bit undersized, but he makes plays sideline to sideline and provides a physical presence in the middle of the field. PICK 11 Josh Allen - QB, Wyoming This would be a bit of a surprise, but theDolphins can't continue to rely on Ryan Tannehill. PICK 12 Connor Williams - OT, Texas Williams saw his stock drop a little bit this fall, but I still believe he's the best offensive tackle in the draft class. PICK 13 Baker Mayfield - QB, Oklahoma The Redskins have a big decision to make withKirk Cousins. If they decided to move on from him, Mayfield would be a perfect fit in this system. PICK 14 Mike Hughes - CB, UCF Hughes has outstanding fluidity and ball skills. His upside is very enticing. PICK 15 Vita Vea - DT, Washington This isn't a pressing need for the Cardinals, but in this scenario, Vea is just too good to pass up. PICK 16 Orlando Brown - OT, Oklahoma The Ravens need to address the wide receiver position, but they have a good track record of filling that void with veteran players in free agency. Brown would immediately start at right tackle for Baltimore, just like his father did a little more than a decade ago. PICK 17 Derwin James - S, Florida State James was made to play in Gus Bradley's defenses. He's a more explosive version of Kam Chancellor. PICK 18 Isaiah Oliver - CB, Colorado Oliver has excellent size and speed. He can locate and play the ball down the field. TheSeahawks are likely headed toward a rebuild in the secondary. PICK 19 Maurice Hurst - DT, Michigan Hurst has an explosive first step and he'd excel playing the 3-technique for Rod Marinelli. PICK 20 Billy Price - C/OG, Ohio State Price can play any of the three interior positions and his nasty demeanor fits with what GM Bob Quinn is building in Detroit. PICK 21 Da'Ron Payne - DT, Alabama The Bills traded away Marcell Dareus in the fall and they need to add another difference-maker to their defensive front. PICK 22 Josh Jackson - CB, Iowa There is some concern about Jackson's deep speed, but he has the best ball skills in the entire draft class. PICK 23 Isaiah Wynn - OG, Georgia Wynn was an undersized offensive tackle at Georgia, but I believe he has Pro Bowl potential as an interior offensive lineman. PICK 24 Calvin Ridley - WR, Alabama The Panthers continue their recent trend and add another explosive weapon for Cam Newton. PICK 25 James Daniels - C/OG, Iowa Daniels is the best center prospect in the draft and I believe he could play guard if needed. I think you will see his stock soar over the next few months. PICK 26 Harrison Phillips - DT, Stanford Phillips has outstanding power and I believe he's an underrated athlete. He dominates against the run. PICK 27 Christian Kirk - WR, Texas A&M I'd love to see Kirk line up and play in this offense with Drew Brees. He's the most polished wideout in the draft. PICK 28 Donte Jackson - CB, LSU I wouldn't be shocked if the Steelers took a running back like Derrius Guice or Ronald Jones here, but I have them landing a very talented cornerback instead. Jackson has inside/outside flexibility and he might be the fastest player in the entire draft. PICK 29 Hayden Hurst - TE, South Carolina The Jaguars need to add another tight end and I love both Hurst and South Dakota State's Dallas Goedert. Either option would be a nice fit. PICK 30 Rashaan Evans - LB, Alabama The Eagles love explosive defenders who play with an edge. Evans fits that profile. PICK 31 Mike McGlinchey - OT, Notre Dame The Patriots could lose Nate Solder in free agency. McGlinchey could step right in and take his place. PICK 32 Arden Key - DE, LSU Key could drop because of some off-field issues as well as an inconsistent fall. However, his upside is outrageous and Mike Zimmer would be the right coach to help him reach that level. 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starrymessenger Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I like Jeremiah and think he's pretty smart. If I remember right he predicted Spiller to the Bills with our first pick. Not many people thought that, certainly not me. He does not see Jackson and Rudolph as first round QBs. He has the Bills filling holes instead of picking either one. Personally I can understand passing on Rudolph but I can't see the Bills passing on Jackson if he falls to them. In fact I think he will go before we pick. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 He has the Broncos passing on a QB? They will take Josh Allen and Jets will take Mayfield. There's zero chance we get out of the top 10 without 4 QB's taken. Also the Cardinals literally don't even have a QB on their roster but they take a DT? Not happening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) If the board fell this way I would make one pick and trade down with the other. If we can't get up for a quarterback, it makes sense to either grab two immediate starters, or grab one player and trade down to gather more draft currency. Though I do like Payne and Jackson. 15 minutes ago, kdiggz said: He has the Broncos passing on a QB? They will take Josh Allen and Jets will take Mayfield. There's zero chance we get out of the top 10 without 4 QB's taken. Also the Cardinals literally don't even have a QB on their roster but they take a DT? Not happening My defense of DJ is that he thinks those teams will fill the QB position is free agency. Whoever gets guys like Cousins, Bridgewater, McCarron, maybe even Bradford, do not have to absolutely draft a QB. They still could, but they don't have to. Those guys are in their prime and going to require a significant commitment. Edited January 21, 2018 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 An OG in the top 5 to a team that is a QB away form making the SB? If the Broncos address QB in FA they still don't take an OG in the top 5. If Josh Allen drops out of the top 10 then even I would recommend going up to get him. I would give both 21 and 22 and next years second and third to go up ten spots and get Allen. He is the only QB I would move up to get and he is the only one worth more than one draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, kdiggz said: He has the Broncos passing on a QB? They will take Josh Allen and Jets will take Mayfield. There's zero chance we get out of the top 10 without 4 QB's taken. Also the Cardinals literally don't even have a QB on their roster but they take a DT? Not happening I totally disagree with his QB treatment as well. Not sure many would agree with this guy that Darnold is the first QB taken; I think most would take Rosen first or even Baker Mayfield. 25 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said: An OG in the top 5 to a team that is a QB away form making the SB? If the Broncos address QB in FA they still don't take an OG in the top 5. If Josh Allen drops out of the top 10 then even I would recommend going up to get him. I would give both 21 and 22 and next years second and third to go up ten spots and get Allen. He is the only QB I would move up to get and he is the only one worth more than one draft pick. Not sure many agree with that one. Kid has lots of question marks surrounding his game at the NFL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, kdiggz said: He has the Broncos passing on a QB? They will take Josh Allen and Jets will take Mayfield. There's zero chance we get out of the top 10 without 4 QB's taken. Also the Cardinals literally don't even have a QB on their roster but they take a DT? Not happening I'll bet Cousins winds up in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Got us taking another Cornerback. This is why u don't trade Ronald Darby with 2yrs left on his deal. Philly fleeced us on that one. Matthews is a average Wr that might not of made the team in Philly and a 3rd is not enough for a corner that i seen Philly using one on one with Julio Jones for most of the game. Darby is a upper echelon corner we should of given him more time to adjust to our new system and culture. Sometimes u got to give guys time to buy in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Got us taking another Cornerback. This is why u don't trade Ronald Darby with 2yrs left on his deal. Philly fleeced us on that one. Matthews is a average Wr that might not of made the team in Philly and a 3rd is not enough for a corner that i seen Philly using one on one with Julio Jones for most of the game. Darby is a upper echelon corner we should of given him more time to adjust to our new system and culture. Sometimes u got to give guys time to buy in. that's what happens when you blow up the coaching staff. . they do things their way. Bills D was good this year. Not sure why everyone is freaking out about the Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, 8-8 Forever? said: that's what happens when you blow up the coaching staff. . they do things their way. Bills D was good this year. Not sure why everyone is freaking out about the Defense. The Bills D was good at times this year. Our run defense is still suspect and those 3 straight blowouts were downright terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Another nightmare draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Several draft gurus have the BIlls focusing on Defense with those first two picks. Assuming they address the QB need through Free Agency, I like taking a top DT and LB in the first round (no corner though). It makes a strong unit stronger, and as the Jags have reminded us, a strong D can take you places in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said: An OG in the top 5 to a team that is a QB away form making the SB? Yeah, most mock drafts are silly, but this one is just laughable. If any team in the top five picks a guard instead of Rosen, their GM should be fired immediately. And if the Bills pass on Calvin Ridley for a CB, my TV screen better duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, 8-8 Forever? said: that's what happens when you blow up the coaching staff. . they do things their way. Bills D was good this year. Not sure why everyone is freaking out about the Defense. The secondary was excellent this year. The front 7 was awful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I think the world of Jeremiah; he has the experience of a scout and has been offered GM jobs I'm not huge on Payne, but Jackson at 22 would be a HUGE get. If Gaines isn't re-signed that would make a ton of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Not sure many agree with that one. Kid has lots of question marks surrounding his game at the NFL level. Yep. Josh Allen is freakin awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Whenever I look at a mock draft I of course go to the Bills picks first...but then I immediately look at the players the author shows being selected right AFTER the Bills pick. In this case I'm not convinced the Bills are taking a CB with some of the offensive linemen and WRs still available right after them. (It's also interesting to see the players shown right BEFORE the Bills pick. It gives you an idea of some others who 'might' be there at 21.) I couldn't care less who's being taken in the Top 10! The Bills are NOT moving up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Regarding Quenton Nelson, I think there's a very realistic shot he goes in the top 5. I think #7 is probably as far as he drops. I think teams are realizing just how important the interior O-Linemen are nowadays and Nelson looks like he can come in and be an All-Pro as a rookie. Assuming Denver gets a QB like Cousins in free agency as Jeremiah seems to be predicting, shoring up the O-Line would be a great move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Don't understand these CBs. EJ Gaines is almost a lock to resign. I don't see any reason we let him walk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 11 hours ago, starrymessenger said: I like Jeremiah and think he's pretty smart. If I remember right he predicted Spiller to the Bills with our first pick. Not many people thought that, certainly not me. He does not see Jackson and Rudolph as first round QBs. He has the Bills filling holes instead of picking either one. Personally I can understand passing on Rudolph but I can't see the Bills passing on Jackson if he falls to them. In fact I think he will go before we pick. But that's just me. I'm sure Bean and McDermott can't wait to draft an athletic QB with accuracy issues after their Tyrod experience. Jackson is without a doubt a project as a passer and I don't see the Bills going near him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: I think the world of Jeremiah; he has the experience of a scout and has been offered GM jobs I'm not huge on Payne, but Jackson at 22 would be a HUGE get. If Gaines isn't re-signed that would make a ton of sense. I'm aware that Jeremiah didn't include trades in this mock but if he did it appears that Denver is in the linchpin spot to make a deal and get additional picks. If Denver was interested in an offensive lineman then this would be a good opportunity for Buffalo and Denver to make a deal. I agree with you that Jeremiah is a sound football man. When he discusses the draft he doesn't simply do it from an individual player standpoint. But rather he usually provides a wider context and analysis and offers a reasonable explanation why the pick makes sense. He is a substance over a style type person. Edited January 21, 2018 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 23 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: Don't understand these CBs. EJ Gaines is almost a lock to resign. I don't see any reason we let him walk Similar to the Zach Brown situation. Might want too much money. At most we might get him on a 1-year prove it deal due to his injury history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Kmart128 said: Don't understand these CBs. EJ Gaines is almost a lock to resign. I don't see any reason we let him walk It's pretty simple. Buffalo has one corner on its roster in a league that plays with 3 corners a ton of the time and Gaines has missed nearly 30 games in 4 years. Even if Gaines is re-signed, Buffalo needs a corner and the way the talent plays out in this draft, there's a lot of good ones to pick towards the end of the 1st round. With the strength of this year's cornerback class, it would be great if a good pass rusher or linebacker (or obviously QB) falls to 21 instead, but a corner makes a lot of sense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, DCOrange said: It's pretty simple. Buffalo has one corner on its roster in a league that plays with 3 corners a ton of the time and Gaines has missed nearly 30 games in 4 years. Even if Gaines is re-signed, Buffalo needs a corner and the way the talent plays out in this draft, there's a lot of good ones to pick towards the end of the 1st round. With the strength of this year's cornerback class, it would be great if a good pass rusher or linebacker (or obviously QB) falls to 21 instead, but a corner makes a lot of sense too. WR, QB, SLB, DE, and RG are all more pressing needs than CB when we resign Gaines. Secondary was probably the strength of our team. We we're weaker at every other area. I could see us adding a CB but it won't be that early when we had one of the worst pass rushes and worst passing offense. Drafting a CB is a very minimal upgrade. Ridley and Key would be both my selections with those two picks in that situation Edited January 21, 2018 by Kmart128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 How would you feel about Daron Payne and Arden Key in this situation? Improved pass rush minimizes the need for another cb and improves on an area that needs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Aside from QB the focus should be pass rush, success in the AFC goes through New England and to beat them you need four guys to go after Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, chris heff said: Aside from QB the focus should be pass rush, success in the AFC goes through New England and to beat them you need four guys to go after Brady. I think pass rusher is easily the right path in round 1 (aside from QB obviously). The secondary is already solid (assuming Gaines/Johnson are retained or replaced in FA), so a makeover of the front 4 would put the D on the precipice of being special IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 A pass rusher would be great, but unfortunately, there likely won't be one worth taking at 21/22. At least not an edge rusher; there's a decent chance that there will be a DT worthy of being a 1st round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Jeremiah is a really good evaluator of talent. Wish there was more than a few words about each pick. Would like some more insight into why he likes specific players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 The more I think about it, the more I want to spend the majority of the slew of draft picks this year on defense. I want to see a monstrous front 7. The secondary was pretty decent this year and that was with virtually no pass rush. I'd be pumped if the first 4 picks went like DT, LB, DE, CB. I think this defense is a few pieces from being top 5 again. Strengthen OL through FA and draft RB Rashaan Penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, DCOrange said: A pass rusher would be great, but unfortunately, there likely won't be one worth taking at 21/22. At least not an edge rusher; there's a decent chance that there will be a DT worthy of being a 1st round pick. Beating the Patriots starts with pushing the pocket from the middle. I’m good with a DT in first round, but who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 hours ago, chris heff said: Beating the Patriots starts with pushing the pocket from the middle. I’m good with a DT in first round, but who? I’d personally love Vita Vea. I think that guy is gonna be a monster but I’m not sure he falls to 21 either. one edge rusher that interests me is Hercules Mata’afa (I think I got the spelling right). Played DT at Wazzu but he might be a linebacker in the NFL that can move to DE on 3rd down. He’s super athletic and is one of those guys like Gerald McCoy that just gets off the snap before everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Ok with Payne at 21 but if Ridley is available at 22, highly doubt it, they have to take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 7 hours ago, DCOrange said: A pass rusher would be great, but unfortunately, there likely won't be one worth taking at 21/22. At least not an edge rusher; there's a decent chance that there will be a DT worthy of being a 1st round pick. The good thing is that there will be fast LBs that can add to the pass rush...I think that would be the route to go besides QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 If the Jets and the Fins each get a new QB, I am really hoping they both turn out to be busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I just can't see Buffalo drafting another CB when they have Tre who will be serious dollars in a few years and Gaines who they can keep for higher dollars now for a few years until they need to pay Tre. Otherwise though great draft board by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, chris heff said: Aside from QB the focus should be pass rush, success in the AFC goes through New England and to beat them you need four guys to go after Brady. Didn't they teach us that lesson a few times already all they did was call quick passes. Make the rush irrelevant. I would rather stack up the middle of the D especially the bk 7 with great Safeties and LBs that can flat out cover. Brady kiils people between the hashes. Edited January 22, 2018 by NastyNateSoldiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 15 hours ago, JaCrispy said: The good thing is that there will be fast LBs that can add to the pass rush...I think that would be the route to go besides QB Traimaine Edmunds he's the one right there. Beast! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Didn't they teach us that lesson a few times already all they did was call quick passes. Make the rush irrelevant. I would rather stack up the middle of the D especially the bk 7 with great Safeties and LBs that can flat out cover. Brady kiils people between the hashes. See the Giants two Super Bowl wins over Patriots. Rush four and cover, rise and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Didn't they teach us that lesson a few times already all they did was call quick passes. Make the rush irrelevant. I would rather stack up the middle of the D especially the bk 7 with great Safeties and LBs that can flat out cover. Brady kiils people between the hashes. They didn't execute that game plan against the 2013-2014 team that had over 50 sacks, but rather against Rex's neutered pass rush. The issue is that you need to be good at all layers of the defense to beat Brady. Pass rush has to be able to get home reliably without blitzing (because only then can you blitz him effectively), and the back-7 needs to play disciplined in coverage. Jacksonville had the right game plan for him yesterday...until the 4th quarter. I said all week that the best defensive approach was to plan man coverage with Telvin Smith spying Brady, and that's what they did more often than not...until the 4th quarter, when they decided to go to a Cover-2 shell and back their corners off. Brutal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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