MAJBobby Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Would you want the Bills to claim him? he would carry this year and next two under contract but would be able to move on from him at really any time. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/eli-manning-4348/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 If? He has a no trade clause and kind of expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Would you want the Bills to claim him? he would carry this year and next two under contract but would be able to move on from him at really any time. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/eli-manning-4348/ Pass, he’s no better than Tyrod at this point. Tyrod has been more effective across the board for a year and a half. If you are looking for a vet break the bank for Cousins. If not, roll with the rookie and sign someone like Teddy Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: If? He has a no trade clause and kind of expensive Who cares about no trsde clause that doesnt stop them from Cutting him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I don't think this would ever happen, but yes I'd claim him. He'd be gone before it ever got to the Bills though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, Boatdrinks said: I don't think this would ever happen, but yes I'd claim him. He'd be gone before it ever got to the Bills though. Yeah i could see CLE putting in a claim. They are going to sell that 1st overall anyway once they sign AJ McCarron in offseason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Why? Just roll with what we have and draft a QB. Manning isn't that great. He had a few really good years and that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I would take him but would still want to draft a QB in the first round. Let the young QB learn from a veteran accomplished QB for a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Why? Just roll with what we have and draft a QB. Manning isn't that great. He had a few really good years and that's about it. Well reason is you can dump in at anytime for Nada. So it was more about win now. If he was released would you claim him for this year or better chance to make playoffs. Also have a vet for next year with no real financial tie Edited November 29, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Who cares about no trsde clause that doesnt stop them from Cutting him He’s under contract for $12.4 Mil IIRC through 18. the Giants won’t eat that contract Edited November 29, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: He’s under contract for $18 Mil IIRC through 18. the Giants won’t eat that contract They save money against cap this year and next year and then free and clear of contract cutting him now just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Well reason is you can dump in at anytime for Nada. So it was more about win now. If he was released would you claim him for this year or better chance to make playoffs with TT? I think if we were to claim him it would be more about the future than the now. I don't see him in the future. The reason I say that is because it usually takes weeks to work into a new system and get some chemistry with a new team. There are only 5 weeks left. At best Eli would play 2 or 3 games with a limited play book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Would you want the Bills to claim him? he would carry this year and next two under contract but would be able to move on from him at really any time. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/eli-manning-4348/ Don't think we have anywhere near a good enough O line to protect a QB like Manning. For all of Taylor's shortcomings, he can move. Manning would get constantly buried considering the holes we have on this O line. Edited November 29, 2017 by buffalo2218 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, Scott7975 said: I think if we were to claim him it would be more about the future than the now. I don't see him in the future. The reason I say that is because it usually takes weeks to work into a new system and get some chemistry with a new team. There are only 5 weeks left. At best Eli would play 2 or 3 games with a limited play book. Ok i get that argument however they are both Zone Run West Coast offenses so how much is different some terminology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Would you want the Bills to claim him? he would carry this year and next two under contract but would be able to move on from him at really any time. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/eli-manning-4348/ NOt worth the price which i imagine will be high for a QB ready to hang them up......apparently this is the draft to get a QB so trade up if need be and get one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, JPP said: NOt worth the price which i imagine will be high for a QB ready to hang them up......apparently this is the draft to get a QB so trade up if need be and get one..... What price. I am talking about if they released him we claim him. Not trade for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Pass, he’s no better than Tyrod at this point. Tyrod has been more effective across the board for a year and a half. If you are looking for a vet break the bank for Cousins. If not, roll with the rookie and sign someone like Teddy Bridgewater. I'll second this. I'd rather a rookie over an older QB who couldn't win with OBJ, Brandon Marshall, Sterling Shepard and Evan Ingram. Manning is 2-9 this year. Besides, he just got benched for Geno Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: Ok i get that argument however they are both Zone Run West Coast offenses so how much is different some terminology? I honestly don't know. I just know that every time I have seen a move like you are suggesting its a while before that player is able to contribute anything meaningful. Its not a bad thought if he were released. I just don't think he could contribute much this season and hopefully next season we will have drafted a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: What price. I am talking about if they released him we claim him. Not trade for him There is no way Eli signs for some low salary. He will cost more than TT in FA, and TT costs too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Pass, he’s no better than Tyrod at this point. Tyrod has been more effective across the board for a year and a half. If you are looking for a vet break the bank for Cousins. If not, roll with the rookie and sign someone like Teddy Bridgewater. The last sentence here is really exactly what i want to do. Identify and get your Rookie and sign Bridgewater if health ok for the vet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 To me, at least, this would feel a lot like when we signed Bledsoe. That's not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Bills need to think long term and stop with the short term fixes. Eli needs a good offensive line and he can try and catch fire for another season or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, BobChalmers said: There is no way Eli signs for some low salary. He will cost more than TT in FA, and TT costs too much. Does anyone know how freaking waiver works in NFL if he is released tomorrow he is subject to waivers, hence all you have to do his claim him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I'll second this. I'd rather a rookie over an older QB who couldn't win with OBJ, Brandon Marshall, Sterling Shepard and Evan Ingram. Manning is 2-9 this year. Besides, he just got benched for Geno Smith To be fair, Manning hasn't had OBJ or Marshall for the majority of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 He has beaten the Pats* twice when it mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, buffalo2218 said: To be fair, Manning hasn't had OBJ or Marshall for the majority of the year Yep, and the list of players on IR this year for the Ginats is 17 players and growing. Nonetheless, they lost the first 5 in a row to the Cowboys, Lions, Eagles, Bucs and Chargers. Manning is stinking it up and I kinda doubt a change of scenery will improve him at this point. I'd rather Kirk Cousins or a top 5 rookie in the 2018 draft. The only way I'd think about signing Eli is if his brother would come to Buffalo to coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I wouldn't mind the idea but I think he might be getting ready to retire, and I would rather go with a young QB option Cousins will be out there, and it looks like the obvious landing spot in SF is now taken. He'll have options, but the Bills could be one of the better ones. Maybe Denver or Arizona but there won't be many other landing spots that are even somewhat attractive. I think the Bills will be top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 GOBBLE GOBBLE. We need an o line for him tho. Pretty much a new offense tho he does like his slot guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Past his prime. Expensive. Doesn't represent the future. Wouldn't do well without a good line in front of him. His price would prevent other signings. Maybe Russ Brandon would want him for the hype. Are people on this forum really thinking like Russ Brandon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, Nihilarian said: Yep, and the list of players on IR this year for the Ginats is 17 players and growing. Nonetheless, they lost the first 5 in a row to the Cowboys, Lions, Eagles, Bucs and Chargers. Manning is stinking it up and I kinda doubt a change of scenery will improve him at this point. I'd rather Kirk Cousins or a top 5 rookie in the 2018 draft. The only way I'd think about signing Eli is if his brother would come to Buffalo to coach. Yeah I'd take my chances with Cousins as well before Manning. But to bring in any QB that doesn't have escapability would mean drafting nothing but O line in the first round. Well at least one O lineman, still have other big holes to fill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I've watched 3 Giants games this year and Eli looked really bad in all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: To me, at least, this would feel a lot like when we signed Bledsoe. That's not a good thing. That's what I was thinking. We'd be looking at double-a-gap blitzes for two years and then restarting with the cupboard bare once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: The only way I'd think about signing Eli is if his brother would come to Buffalo to coach. What has Swaffle the Giraffe ever done to make you think he would make a good coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Got to figure the Jags would be all over Eli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 28 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The last sentence here is really exactly what i want to do. Identify and get your Rookie and sign Bridgewater if health ok for the vet That seems to be a cost effective swing imo. Teddy has some upside for the price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Better off taking a 1st round rook qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 his best days are behind him and he should just hang them up. he had a pretty good career with a couple rings to boot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: his best days are behind him and he should just hang them up. he had a pretty good career with a couple rings to boot! Eli was always in the shadow of Peyton. The Manning name gave Eli more than he deserved lately. Age got to him faster. Edited November 29, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Im sure his big bro will tell him to stay the hell away from dennison! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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