Patrick Duffy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Saw the fire the OC thread, didn't see one for the DC. May as well have one for him too. I can't quite determine which side of the ball is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Isn't he mainly a cover 2 type DC, if so I don't want anything to do with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 might help if the defense isnt on the field for 85% of the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, RonMexico said: might help if the defense isnt on the field for 85% of the game Nah, they can't stop anybody when they are fresh either. You can argue this to a certain extent, but this defense is bad, fresh or tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I think you might be a little premature with this thread. But I would like Leslie to get a little more creative with bringing pressure on the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 If Vic Fangio somehow becomes available we need to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Nah, they can't stop anybody when they are fresh either. You can argue this to a certain extent, but this defense is bad, fresh or tired. Word. Offense sucks. Defense is currently worse. Hard to believe, but oh so true 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: I think you might be a little premature with this thread. But I would like Leslie to get a little more creative with bringing pressure on the QB. 34, 47, 54. If he shouldn’t be fired, he should be put on warning. This is not acceptable. Yes, our talent on d is bleh......but this is unacceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 If you're firing the DC this early into a defensive minded coach's tenure. You might as well just get rid of the HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I want GM: Whaley Coach: McDermott OC: Gailey DC: Shwartz If I had to take one, I'd lean to Schwartz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 This is what happens when you trade away your best player on defense for a rib-eye steak. Stupid trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: If you're firing the DC this early into a defensive minded coach's tenure. You might as well just get rid of the HC. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, RonMexico said: might help if the defense isnt on the field for 85% of the game Hey ron hows the herp nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Saw the fire the OC thread, didn't see one for the DC. May as well have one for him too. I can't quite determine which side of the ball is worse. The defense isn't his fault as the talent is lacking but was never a big fan of his so won't be disappointed if he goes. I should start the official hire Wade as DC and Frank Reich as OC thread. 1 hour ago, Paulus said: I want GM: Whaley Coach: McDermott OC: Gailey DC: Shwartz If I had to take one, I'd lean to Schwartz. He'll no to Whaley. 3 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: If Vic Fangio somehow becomes available we need to get him. He'll yeah, forgot about him , BUT he is a 34 guy with exotic blitzes, not sure he would fit here. That said he is a great DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 What makes this thread “official”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 47 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: What makes this thread “official”? Because the Duff started it mane. That's why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 The statistics show that the defense was being held together by one superiorly talented player who as many posters noted was occupying multiple blockers. At some point you need to have talent on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) It's tough making chicken soup out of chicken poop Edited November 21, 2017 by bmur66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Right now, I'd support firing them both. And Castillo.....let McD take over the play-calling for the Defense, and promote somebody from the Offensive side to finish the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick Bay Chad Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 We should fire all the coaches and get new ones again. That is not the answer. We don't have good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Byrd Man Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, WildBills said: This is what happens when you trade away your best player on defense for a rib-eye steak. Stupid trade. Sad but true. According to the media Dareus had negligible impact on the D. Funny how the Bills go from a dominant run D to the cellar and the Jags do just the opposite with him. Coincidence? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: If you're firing the DC this early into a defensive minded coach's tenure. You might as well just get rid of the HC. Exactly. McDermott has a huge influence on the defensive personnel as well as the gameplan for each week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 ints and the score was 10-7 but then they give up a TD after being on the field lets say 20 plays with some picks mixed in . Score is 17-7 and he throws the pick to the sideline at that point it looked like the d was done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: We should fire all the coaches and get new ones again. That is not the answer. We don't have good players. Can't do that. These idiots traded away all the talent. No half ass decent coach would come here. We are stuck with these clowns. Beane traded Darby and Seymour who are both starting and both look good. Those two trades and the Dareus trade blew my mind. This trust the process cult is just a little bit insane in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 11 hours ago, RonMexico said: might help if the defense isnt on the field for 85% of the game they could stop someone and get off the field, you know that, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Word. Bills are way overdue for a housecleaning. #bestfansinthenfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 We might have the worst group of line backers in the history of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 14 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: If you're firing the DC this early into a defensive minded coach's tenure. You might as well just get rid of the HC. If McDermott is pleased with the defensive play at this point - He deserves to be FIRED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 16 hours ago, RonMexico said: might help if the defense isnt on the field for 85% of the game I honestly think that is the lamest excuse out there for them being bad. The defence has forced I think 1 three and out the past 3 games? And that was because Rivers missed a wide open Allen on 3rd down. We talk about the offence going 3 and out and rightfully so, but the same thing should be directed towards the defence You know god forbid they actually forced a punt or two in the first half I would possibly buy this theory by saying they got tired in the 2nd half, but it literally took them almost 2 full games to force a punt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 The Chargers first punt on Sunday was the first punt the Bills defense forced in almost two full games. Yes, that should be a fireable offense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 The Raiders just fired their DC Ken Norton Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 16 hours ago, RonMexico said: might help if the defense isnt on the field for 85% of the game They are on the field that long because the D cant stop anyone and the O is stagnant- good times to be a Bills fan. In Frazier’s defense, the front 7 is total garbage week in and week out. Kyles done, the other DT’s aren’t serviceable and dont get me started on our LB corps- puke! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, billsfan11 said: I honestly think that is the lamest excuse out there for them being bad. The defence has forced I think 1 three and out the past 3 games? And that was because Rivers missed a wide open Allen on 3rd down. We talk about the offence going 3 and out and rightfully so, but the same thing should be directed towards the defence You know god forbid they actually forced a punt or two in the first half I would possibly buy this theory by saying they got tired in the 2nd half, but it literally took them almost 2 full games to force a punt Exactly. That's why I said people can only argue that the defense was tired to a certain extent. A very small extent at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 you keep this up and you're going to get that icy sideline on gameday glare from coach Frazier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I would be all for this. Didn’t like him before he was here, can’t stand his defense now. Let MCD call the D. The wheels are off this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: They are on the field that long because the D cant stop anyone and the O is stagnant- good times to be a Bills fan. In Frazier’s defense, the front 7 is total garbage week in and week out. Kyles done, the other DT’s aren’t serviceable and dont get me started on our LB corps- puke! There is no one with an ounce of talent besides Kyle Williams on the front seven. What do you expect? Definitely not Frazier's fault. It's Beane's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 31 minutes ago, WildBills said: There is no one with an ounce of talent besides Kyle Williams on the front seven. What do you expect? Definitely not Frazier's fault. It's Beane's fault. Something tells me Frasier will be the fall guy. I am not a big fan of his but the dudes got no talent. Shaq is awful and Hughes has been a big disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Not a fan of the cover 2 defense in Buffalo. We are not a traditional 3-4 team but in the 90's that 3-4 was fun to watch. I just think there is an advantage with playing 3-4 defense with all the 3 and 4 wide sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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