Scott7975 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Ok I just looked it up. Dareus played just over 33% of the snaps this year. I guess our D was good on 33% of the snaps and terrible the other 67%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Throw potential out the window (but keep in mind hes been to the pro bowl twice and been an All-Pro). Do you believe that a 6th round pick and $2M in cap space will equate to Dareus impact? That is what e are talking about. If you believe it thats fine. I dont. We're not going to be paying a 6th round pick 8 figures either. You don't pay a guy that money to soak up blockers like a 0-tech NT and come off the field for 50% of the plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Another 1st round pick leaves after not meeting expectations. No wonder this team hasn't been able to win consistently.its not like we were winning with them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 We better hope to God that Dareus doesn't play well. If this sixth rounder turns into a fifth, we lose our shot at Tom Brady. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 We could get a shot at Kyle Williams, though!We have had him for a decade and no playoffs!* *One of the only other nearly as ridiculous things as TB was a sixth rounder, "We didn't win with Joe Blow so how good could he have been?!, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Happy, All that work on your part. Ang gone with a click of the mouse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Yippie. Still a very very very dumb trade. He was a part time role player this season. He was soft on the run. Remember him getting bulldozed into the end zone on a run? He was halfway out the door already. Minimal effort when he was out there. The guy had the talent but not the drive or heart like Kyle Williams. If they could only get a 6th, that tells you how the rest of the league views him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Im not really mad about trading Dareus but I would say the writing is on the wall here. With all the moves so far its clear this front office is going to go all in cheap and never pay or want to pay anyone. We are going to be the Rays here and anytime a good player wants to be paid, we will replace him with entry level moneyball trash. That doesnt work. I dont care what anyone says or thinks about it. You need to keep high end players if you ever want to win big in this league. Again, its not specifically about Dareus, he was a headache. But obviously this FO and staff thinks they can win with anyone. That is a dangerous game to play. Eventually we will cut it to thin and this thing will get sideways. The depth of this current roster is terrible right now and Ill admit it has worked so far. I just dont feel like its sustainable. If this team trades Glenn for chump change and god forbid turns to Shady...there is a fine line IMO Or maybe they are just clearing up all the bad crap on the team and the books so they can build a team properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Here’s what we need to realize; even if Dareus was playing better, he was still going to be shipped out. This FO does not like him for the person he is, the risk he represents , and the example he sets in an environment trying to establish a specific kind of new culture. The only thing preventing them from downright releasing him was his albatross of a contract. I know that to be true and what they are thinking, that doesn't mean I have to believe or agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 its not like we were winning with them either. How many times did this board discuss how we were .500 despite Rex and imagine what a competent coach wouldve gotten out of the roster. So was it the roster or rex that was holding us back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 How many times did this board discuss how we were .500 despite Rex and imagine what a competent coach wouldve gotten out of the roster. So was it the roster or rex that was holding us back? Can't it be both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 He was a part time role player this season. He was soft on the run. Remember him getting bulldozed into the end zone on a run? He was halfway out the door already. Minimal effort when he was out there. The guy had the talent but not the drive or heart like Kyle Williams. If they could only get a 6th, that tells you how the rest of the league views him. Maybe you might want to put the TB game on and watch him routinely stack Double Teams. Who on the DT group does that now. So again Bills fighting for a playoff WEAKEN their team. This was a DUMB trade and should have been made in this coming offseason that is when they could have maxed his value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Adolphus Washington, Cedric Thornton Jerel Worthy These guys now have to take on the double teams and stack the middle next to Kyle. The DT rotation looks a lot shakier... isnt that what theyve been doing all year? I agree the depth looks worse but he hasnt played much this year. Edited October 28, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Pathetic? "It's like Christmas!" Ah, you must get coal for Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Been a fan for as long as I can remember and this season shows the change! I know alot of people are nervous but this is all good. We needed to move on from the past era. Hate to see talent leave if they wanted to stay but D didn't want to be here or maybe even play. Free up the cash for talent that want to play. Lots of football left and this team is showing heart. I'm excited for the first time in a long time. Go Billsssss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Third overall pick being traded for a 6th round pick?! I get Dareus has a big contract, but that's just giving him away for free. Terrible move! A big contract, and one hit away from a year off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Im not really mad about trading Dareus but I would say the writing is on the wall here. With all the moves so far its clear this front office is going to go all in cheap and never pay or want to pay anyone. We are going to be the Rays here and anytime a good player wants to be paid, we will replace him with entry level moneyball trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan in MD Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 i think we are in the minority but im VERY happy I'm fine with it as well. The FO clearly views this as addition by subtraction, which is a legitimate position for them to take. And they'll eventually be proven either right or wrong. That, plus some cap relief, are the keys to the deal. The draft pick was a throw in, which was probably as good as they were going to get for a lazy, out of shape player who is one positive test away from a 10 game suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 isnt that what theyve been doing all year? I agree the depth looks worse but he hasnt played much this year. Pretty much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 LOL, no way its only a 6th rounder.People crack me up with this crap. We're lucky we got anything. His contract is obnoxious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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