Steptide Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I don't want to be Debbie downer today. I'm just as excited as the next guy. But calling those three run plays after the Hyde interception cannot happen weekly. It will end up costing the bills games. They have to be more aggressive at those times. Go bills. Can't believe we're 3-1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 It was my only criticism all game. They were playing not to lose. We won. I'm happy. But that was a pathetic drive. Just glad it didn't bite us. Â Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Love the win so I also don't want to be a downer but I agree. They need to stop going into a shell. It will bite them eventually. Tyrod has been fine. Let the man throw the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) How about that 30 something yard pass to Clay on first down the drive before when we were tied right after that TD? Why aren't you mentioning that? How conservative was that? Go away. Edited October 1, 2017 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 They were running the ball wee in the 2nd half, it forces Atlanta to use all their timeouts so can't fault too much, Â Â I don't want to be Debbie downer today. I'm just as excited as the next guy. But calling those three run plays after the Hyde interception cannot happen weekly. It will end up costing the bills games. They have to be more aggressive at those times. Go bills. Can't believe we're 3-1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 How about that 30 something yard pass to Clay on first down the drive before when we were tied right after that pick? Why aren't you mentioning that? How conservative was that? Go away. Â I don't think he's saying that nothing good happened. He was just talking about that one drive. I think it's fair to bring it up for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Â I don't think he's saying that nothing good happened. He was just talking about that one drive. I think it's fair to bring it up for discussion. If the bills were up by 10, I would have no problem with it. Being up by 3 with 4? Mins left against Matt Ryan. Ya no thanks. Fortunately we won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) Â I don't think he's saying that nothing good happened. He was just talking about that one drive. I think it's fair to bring it up for discussion. Â Sorry, he wants to nit pick on "conservative" play calling after our biggest road win in how long and best start in how long, when the drive before with less than 7 minutes left they were anything but conservative calling that pass to Clay. Sorry, not today. Not letting it slide this time. Maybe on Tuesday or Wednesday it's worth discussing. Not today. Edited October 1, 2017 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I think if Jones and Senu were still in the game they would have attempted to throw there. If I was a Falcons fan I'd be really pissed they needed 1 yard in two downs and they passed twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The FG was VERY aggressive call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The FG was VERY aggressive call. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I think the conservative play calling is a function of the faith placed in the defense and the kicker kicking a dome. McD knew that if he gained any sort of positive yards on those runs that he was wiling to kick that 55+ yarder. Although I would have went for a pass on first down because Atlanta knew a run was coming and they stunted the run and the Bills offense was basically there to kill the clock. Â Expect "Conservative" play calling late in close games, a very good defense means you can afford to play not to lose games since you can count on your defense more often than not to bail you out. Bottom line you offense is more likely to lose you games than your defense. So expect your playcalling to reflect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I don't want to be Debbie downer today. I'm just as excited as the next guy. But calling those three run plays after the Hyde interception cannot happen weekly. It will end up costing the bills games. They have to be more aggressive at those times. Go bills. Can't believe we're 3-1! This is what you do when you have a good defense...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Â McD has made calculated decisions based on what was happening in the game. We made the plays we made to win the game because that is what we had been doing the whole game previous. Both of the last two games we became conservative because and only because we had been efficient and good on defense. That's why Opie's had the offense go into a shell which kept us for more yards maybe but we win the game because of those decisions. If we weren't so good on defense he wouldn't have gone into a shell because we would have needed the points. I'm not a conservative fan by nature but I totally understood being conservative when they did the last couple games and they won both. So the decisions were good. Â It doesn't mean they are always going to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Â Sorry, he wants to nit pick on "conservative" play calling after our biggest road win in how long and best start in how long, when the drive before with less than 7 minutes left they were anything but conservative calling that pass to Clay. Sorry, not today. Not letting it slide this time. Maybe on Tuesday or Wednesday it's worth discussing. Not today. Â I hear you, man. I'm trying to enjoy the win for today, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The FG was VERY aggressive call. Yes the second one was. Â The One from the half yard line was a chicken shyt call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 They had to burn all three time outs,sounds like a good plan to me. Â Matthews was out of the game and I bet they were keeping a closer eye on Clay. Â Not to mention their DE was owning Mills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) How about that 30 something yard pass to Clay on first down the drive before when we were tied right after that TD? Why aren't you mentioning that? How conservative was that? Go away.How about the next throw to Clay that TT missed. All a coach can do is put players in the right position. Between Z. Jones drops and TT misses, we could have thumped them...... but we still won. This isn't a great team but they are scrappy and " Want to" can make a heck of a difference. Edited October 1, 2017 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Yes the second one was. The One from the half yard line was a chicken shyt call Normally I would go for that. If Julio Jones was in the game or our defense was not playing lights out I go for that. With the game the way it was and defense playing well and Jones\Sanu out, you kick it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) Normally I would go for that. If Julio Jones was in the game or our defense was not playing lights out I go for that. With the game the way it was and defense playing well and Jones\Sanu out, you kick it.No you go for it and get up two scores and end the game there.  You miss it your Defense is playing lights out and they have the ball at the 1/2 yardline with Jones/Sanu out.  It was an ultra conservative chicken shyt call   You lose more games than you win in the NFL when you take the FG there Edited October 1, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 In context, though, I can defend that playcalling a bit. Of course you'd like to see them go for the throat but they established the run early so why not. And i know everyone's butt clenches when tolbert gets the ball but shady will be on the shelf by week 6 unless they start figuring out alternatives. He wrist already seems not quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 When you win, every call is genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 We still need to get better play calling AFTER A TURN OVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Run the ball..........run out the clock. Â Simple. Â Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I don't want to be Debbie downer today. I'm just as excited as the next guy. But calling those three run plays after the Hyde interception cannot happen weekly. It will end up costing the bills games. They have to be more aggressive at those times. Go bills. Can't believe we're 3-1! Biggest road win in years so maybe not the best day to pick nits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 No you go for it and get up two scores and end the game there. You miss it your Defense is playing lights out and they have the ball at the 1/2 yardline with Jones/Sanu out. It was an ultra conservative chicken shyt call You lose more games than you win in the NFL when you take the FG there It's not a no brainer. I can understand your POV on it. Like I said, nine times out of ten I agree with you. If one player is in the game, Julio, I agree with you. But they no longer have a big play offense. So up seven with three minutes to go is huge. To say it's always a chicken **** call is to not understand different games. This isn't something you check the trade points chart on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 It's not a no brainer. I can understand your POV on it. Like I said, nine times out of ten I agree with you. If one player is in the game, Julio, I agree with you. But they no longer have a big play offense. So up seven with three minutes to go is huge. To say it's always a chicken **** call is to not understand different games. This isn't something you check the trade points chart on. Ooo so what happened the very next drive? Just asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I don't want to be Debbie downer today. I'm just as excited as the next guy. But calling those three run plays after the Hyde interception cannot happen weekly. It will end up costing the bills games. They have to be more aggressive at those times. Go bills. Can't believe we're 3-1!With a normal defense yes. But we have only given up one passing td in 4 games. It was the correct call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I think its very telling that they feel their best course of action to win a close game is to take the ball out of Tyrods hand. the NFL is not like Madden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Ooo so what happened the very next drive? Just askingExactly i agree with you. Even with those 2 out they still had dangerous weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1. Should have gone for it on fourth and 1/2 yard 2. Play action on first play after the INT with run/pass option for TT. An 8 yard gain on first down and the game is over. 3. Gutsy call to kick 55 yarder. I was ok with a punt there up 3 and with the defense playing well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 They had to burn all three time outs,sounds like a good plan to me. Â Matthews was out of the game and I bet they were keeping a closer eye on Clay. Â Not to mention their DE was owning Mills. This is likely going to be a topic of discussion over the next few days. At OBD as well as TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Ooo so what happened the very next drive? Just askingThat has no bearing. Would you have said it was a good call to go for it if we missed and then they scored a TD to win and not tie? Again, most times I agree with you we go for it. Some extenuating situations change that decision. Actually, if you remember. We were going to go for it if it were a half yard and not if it were a full yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED800 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I don't want to be Debbie downer today. I'm just as excited as the next guy. But calling those three run plays after the Hyde interception cannot happen weekly. It will end up costing the bills games. They have to be more aggressive at those times. Go bills. Can't believe we're 3-1! You do realize we wanted them to burn their timeouts and use as much time as possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Conventional wisdom is you DON'T go for it on the road on 4th. Not "ultra conservative" - more by the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Run the ball..........run out the clock. Â Simple. Â Deal with it. Â ...landscape changed when Ryan lost his two favs....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re enlightener Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 How about that 30 something yard pass to Clay on first down the drive before when we were tied right after that TD? Why aren't you mentioning that? How conservative was that? Go away. ummm maybe because you need more than 6 points to ensure a win? maybe because we almost lost due to stupid run plays being called, um maybe it should have been a 10 point lead where we walk away with a kneel down instead of another heartbreaking loss? Â it was totally stupid playcalling, do you understand how football works or was this your first game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 It was my only criticism all game. They were playing not to lose. We won. I'm happy. But that was a pathetic drive. Just glad it didn't bite us. Â Go Bills! What about that 15-17 play drive in the 3rd and 4th. That was a thing of beauty. Have no complaints today for the first time ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 ummm maybe because you need more than 6 points to ensure a win? maybe because we almost lost due to stupid run plays being called, um maybe it should have been a 10 point lead where we walk away with a kneel down instead of another heartbreaking loss? Â it was totally stupid playcalling, do you understand how football works or was this your first game? Do you not understand how incredibly well our defense was playing? We have given up one passing td all year. They had 3 min or so to move down the field and have to score a td to win with no Julio or Sanu. It was the correct call regardless if you liked it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 How about that 30 something yard pass to Clay on first down the drive before when we were tied right after that TD? Why aren't you mentioning that? How conservative was that? Go away. This. OP must be a foreign refugee who's never seen a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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