Davejr511 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Right now we only have Tyrod Taylor and Cardale Jones. Unless Whaley is a complete idiot, I'm pretty sure he will draft a QB. Im not sure when though. With greater needs at WR & DB, Id be shocked if we go with a QB in the first two rounds. If thats the case we will likely end up with mid level talent for a QB like Davis Webb, Nathan Peterman,Joshua Dobbs or Chad Kelly. So in logic we'll have a mid level talent starting QB, and 2 very raw and unproven QBs. What Im trying to get to is where is the veteran back-up QB we can trust if god forbid Tyrod goes down. Sorry but Im not sold on Jones as back-up, there is a reason he lost out on the starting job at Ohio State. A strong arm will only get you so far on the football field. Anyways, how have we not interviewed guys like Cutler, Kap, RG3 or Keenum? The going rate for back-up QB seems to be around 2 mill per. Im sure we can get 1 of these guys for that if not a little less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Right now we only have Tyrod Taylor and Cardale Jones. Unless Whaley is a complete idiot, I'm pretty sure he will draft a QB. Im not sure when though. With greater needs at WR & DB, Id be shocked if we go with a QB in the first two rounds. If thats the case we will likely end up with mid level talent for a QB like Davis Webb, Nathan Peterman,Joshua Dobbs or Chad Kelly. So in logic we'll have a mid level talent starting QB, and 2 very raw and unproven QBs. What Im trying to get to is where is the veteran back-up QB we can trust if god forbid Tyrod goes down. Sorry but Im not sold on Jones as back-up, there is a reason he lost out on the starting job at Ohio State. A strong arm will only get you so far on the football field. Anyways, how have we not interviewed guys like Cutler, Kap, RG3 or Keenum? The going rate for back-up QB seems to be around 2 mill per. Im sure we can get 1 of these guys for that if not a little less. Given the situation at QB I'm surprised that this discussing hasn't been had. Your way out infront of this one, need some of that forward thinking at OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud420 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Jay Cutler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 poor Josh Woodrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Given the situation at QB I'm surprised that this discussing hasn't been had. Your way out infront of this one, need some of that forward thinking at OBD. ....have a thought on interviewing Chase Daniel as the "vet presence"?......also, I don't see Cardale ever panning out.....his collegiate body of work is about 1/2 page long.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) Right now we only have Tyrod Taylor and Cardale Jones. Unless Whaley is a complete idiot, I'm pretty sure he will draft a QB. Im not sure when though. With greater needs at WR & DB, Id be shocked if we go with a QB in the first two rounds. If thats the case we will likely end up with mid level talent for a QB like Davis Webb, Nathan Peterman,Joshua Dobbs or Chad Kelly. So in logic we'll have a mid level talent starting QB, and 2 very raw and unproven QBs. What Im trying to get to is where is the veteran back-up QB we can trust if god forbid Tyrod goes down. Sorry but Im not sold on Jones as back-up, there is a reason he lost out on the starting job at Ohio State. A strong arm will only get you so far on the football field. Anyways, how have we not interviewed guys like Cutler, Kap, RG3 or Keenum? The going rate for back-up QB seems to be around 2 mill per. Im sure we can get 1 of these guys for that if not a little less. Tyrod Taylor isn’t a franchise QB. So the greatest need for the Buffalo Bills is at QB. Unless your goal is to just be ok, be “in the hunt”. If that’s your goal, then why worry about a back up QB? It’s not like you’re trying to win a Superbowl anyways. Your roll in the league is to be “in the hunt” and just miss out in the final weeks, then go away and let the teams with real NFL QBs play for the championship. Edited March 26, 2017 by 1billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I honestly think we sign a vet this year,and by default go after a QB next year. If we're lucky,there shouldn't be qb starved teams ahead of us in the draft next year,as Cle and SF should get their guys this year,leaving us for the pick of the litter next year...im dreaming,i know. But it might be plausible to surmise that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Jay Cutler with roughly 6mm in cap space, Cutler will not be coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Nor should we want him. Maybe a late pick in the draft. Either that or we pick someone up off the street if TT goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) if we end up with a mid tier rookie draft pick this year....and i'm hoping it's chad kelly, why not bring in nassib for a visit? chase daniel will find a more lucrative deal elsewhere. nassib was behind ely all this time and in limited playing time was what?...9-12 128 and a td? cheap too Edited March 26, 2017 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 poor Josh Woodrumeveryone is sleeping on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 with roughly 6mm in cap space, Cutler will not be coming here.$6? I assume that's the $12 less rookie salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 $6? I assume that's the $12 less rookie salaries. ...even the Jesters didn't want 'em...........'nuff said............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 $6? I assume that's the $12 less rookie salaries. correct, as the rookie pool needs to be accounted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Right now we only have Tyrod Taylor and Cardale Jones. Unless Whaley is a complete idiot, I'm pretty sure he will draft a QB. Im not sure when though. With greater needs at WR & DB, Id be shocked if we go with a QB in the first two rounds. If thats the case we will likely end up with mid level talent for a QB like Davis Webb, Nathan Peterman,Joshua Dobbs or Chad Kelly. So in logic we'll have a mid level talent starting QB, and 2 very raw and unproven QBs. What Im trying to get to is where is the veteran back-up QB we can trust if god forbid Tyrod goes down. Sorry but Im not sold on Jones as back-up, there is a reason he lost out on the starting job at Ohio State. A strong arm will only get you so far on the football field. Anyways, how have we not interviewed guys like Cutler, Kap, RG3 or Keenum? The going rate for back-up QB seems to be around 2 mill per. Im sure we can get 1 of these guys for that if not a little less. This is new uncovered INFORMATION here! I have to wonder if the front office has even noticed we only have two? No wonder we have half a dozen threads about firing Doug. I must now do a search and see if in fact this has been discussed and I have been missing it. Truly I will find it has not because you would have done your due diligence and searched ahead of time to be sure you could give one of those many "QB situation"threads the very well thought out OP you did above.Never mind. Just did the search....been rehashed before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 just resign Fitzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 This is new uncovered INFORMATION here! I have to wonder if the front office has even noticed we only have two? No wonder we have half a dozen threads about firing Doug. I must now do a search and see if in fact this has been discussed and I have been missing it. Truly I will find it has not because you would have done your due diligence and searched ahead of time to be sure you could give one of those many "QB situation"threads the very well thought out OP you did above. Never mind. Just did the search....been rehashed before. Did they mention Mahomes in those threads? Maybe that could be a new topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 If we were actually on the verge of heading into the season there might be concern. It's March. Relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art in PNS Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 with roughly 6mm in cap space, Cutler will not be coming here. Don't forget A Williams was designated as a post June 1st cut so we carry roughly 6MM of salary until after June first then the cap is is much less. Also by Then Free agents will be cheaper if their are any less and we will be post draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Maybe they pick up two QBs in the draft and cut CJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Did they mention Mahomes in those threads? Maybe that could be a new topic. Who? Never heard of him. Can you start a post about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I think all signs are pointing to a QB in round 1 or 2. Tyrod is essentially on a 1 year bridge QB deal. I don't think Cardale has shown enough to be seen as a franchise QB. They have not brought a veteran backup QB in because they are going to bring in a developmental prospect. I think they pick a QB in round one and trade back in round 2 to acquire a 4th round and a 7th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I think all signs are pointing to a QB in round 1 or 2. Tyrod is essentially on a 1 year bridge QB deal. I don't think Cardale has shown enough to be seen as a franchise QB. They have not brought a veteran backup QB in because they are going to bring in a developmental prospect. I think they pick a QB in round one and trade back in round 2 to acquire a 4th round and a 7th round pick. .....2 cents for what it's worth....sign Chase Daniel and let him compete for starting job (why not? plenty of TT detractors here).....trade down as deep as possibly looking for an extra 1st in 2018 (maybe a 2017 2nd?)....I don 't get to see college ball, but many here seem to say the 2018 QB class is far superior......use a 2nd in 2017 to draft a QB, so you'd go into camp with TT, Daniel, draft pick and Cardale Whatchamacallit (based on his prolific collegiate career, Rome was built sooner than grooming this guy)..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Sign Fitzpatrick to be our backup. He's a good backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejr511 Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 I love the sarcasm guys, keep it going. I know the topic has been talked about, and that the front office has some what of a plan. But before FA even started everyone pretty much said that the Bills would bring in a veteran QB. Almoat a month into it we haven't even interviewed 1 single QB. Just wondering why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I love the sarcasm guys, keep it going. I know the topic has been talked about, and that the front office has some what of a plan. But before FA even started everyone pretty much said that the Bills would bring in a veteran QB. Almoat a month into it we haven't even interviewed 1 single QB. Just wondering why? I think simply because there is no need right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 .....2 cents for what it's worth....sign Chase Daniel and let him compete for starting job (why not? plenty of TT detractors here).....trade down as deep as possibly looking for an extra 1st in 2018 (maybe a 2017 2nd?)....I don 't get to see college ball, but many here seem to say the 2018 QB class is far superior......use a 2nd in 2017 to draft a QB, so you'd go into camp with TT, Daniel, draft pick and Cardale Whatchamacallit (based on his prolific collegiate career, Rome was built sooner than grooming this guy)..... I actually really like Tyrod. He is the perfect bridge Qb with the new contract. I would keep Tyrod for the next couple years, I think you can build a competitive playoff team with him as the starter. He should continue to start until someone beats him out. I don't think I could go back to watching an EJ/Losman/Edwards type of QB. I would prefer to draft a guy this year so he has a chance to beat out Tyrod next season. The 2018 class is way over hyped right now, their grades will come down when they actually start being evaluated. Darnold seems to be the real deal, but he is going to go with the 1st pick (and no one is going to trade that pick away). If I was running the team I would go Watson in round 1 or Kizer/Mahomes in round 2 (and yes Mahome will be there in round 2, he is way overrated on this board). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I think we may pick a qb fairly high and sign a cheaper, meh vet. Jones and the vet may have a training camp battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Fitzpatrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Fitzpatrick The first signs of TT struggling would start a controversy. That said, any team that has a young qb or is drafting one would be smart to sign Fitz. Perfect mentor/ backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Fitzpatrick .he couldn't even throw a Blue Light can to the right customer as a beerman....seriously??........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 .he couldn't even throw a Blue Light can to the right customer as a beerman....seriously??........ Stop with the hyperbole. He would be one of the best backups in the league and 2 years ago, he would have thrown the second most td passes in Bills franchise history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I think we see a vet backup. Still some decent options out there. I don't see us drafting a QB unless we can trade down and grab Mahommes at the end of the 1st or Peterman later (5th Rd.) I think we draft DB's, WR, OL and perhpas DL/LB depending on BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Stop with the hyperbole. He would be one of the best backups in the league and 2 years ago, he would have thrown the second most td passes in Bills franchise history. ...yer sir...he was nominated for Pope but Francis beat him out by a whisker.......seriously?.......where is your vaunted $12 million dollar extortionist signed now?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 The first signs of TT struggling would start a controversy. That said, any team that has a young qb or is drafting one would be smart to sign Fitz. Perfect mentor/ backup. would love Fitz as a backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Right now we only have Tyrod Taylor and Cardale Jones. Unless Whaley is a complete idiot, I'm pretty sure he will draft a QB. Im not sure when though. Right. Unless he agrees with you he is a complete idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 If Tyrod gets hurt, the tank is on. No need for a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I'm OK with a QB at any pick of the draft. More likely, it'll be with our 5th, 5th, or 6th round pick. Evans, Dobbs, and Kelly make sense in those rounds. Regardless of whether or not we draft a QB at all, signing Fitzpatrick as QB2 would be a great move. Top-end QB2 in this league. Never know when you need a guy to step up and string a couple wins together. Fear the beard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflaBill Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 The bills can't draft a QB and sign a Vet its one or the other. TT, Jones, Rookie/vet. No way they keep 4 qbs and thats what you're asking them to do if they draft, and sign a vet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I think we may pick a qb fairly high and sign a cheaper, meh vet. Jones and the vet may have a training camp battle. ^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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