BuffaloBud420 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Accepting his option or even restructuring puts us on the hook for him for at least three years. His agent will make sure of it. I just don't see us making the playoffs... We have a new head coach (who I love) and coaching staff that have to implement their schemes. Not to mention a ton of free agent starters like Gilmore, Woods, Z. Brown with limited cap space. We can all probably agree the jury is still out on Taylor, I personally think he hit his ceiling. He could be effective with a top 5 defense. It's unrealistic to think McDermott will take a 19 rank D to top 5 within a year or even two. We will eventually get there. The question is if we keep Tyrod and have another 7-9 season or worse, what then? Do we then move on from Tyrod? His contract would make that tough. Another reason why I think it will be tough for Bills is our 2017 opponents. Looks very tough. I like the idea of Cardale and a veteran FA (McCown, maybe Cutler if price is right) in competition for starting job. With that said I think we all know the importance of a legitimate franchise QB, just because it maybe tough to find doesn't mean we need to settle. 2018 is a great draft for QBS with Darnold, Rosen and Allen. They are all legit. I'm not saying tank, just time to move on and see what happens. Sorry for starting a thread so early in my tenure here at twobillsdrive just wanted to put that out there with a decision coming soon from the Bills...and maybe Doug and Sean are reading this. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Do the best we can with Tyrod and trade up for one of those 3 is probably what they are thinking at OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 **Sigh** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 None of this has been discussed here before, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 None of this has been discussed here before, ever. How come we never thought about this subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Amen bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradumbass Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 These posts are becoming living exhibits of why some Bills fans get confused by nice things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Oi vey - just wait another week and we can have some resolution on this hot topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 To the OP - search beyond page 1 for the many very long threads on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 To the OP - search beyond page 1 for the many very long threads on this topic. I believe I just counted 6 or 7 threads on page one and that doesn't included how every other subject gets hijacked to TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunesmith Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I think if we open a dozen or so more threads on this topic, we just might get Doug & Sean to see things our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Accepting his option or even restructuring puts us on the hook for him for at least three years. His agent will make sure of it. I just don't see us making the playoffs... We have a new head coach (who I love) and coaching staff that have to implement their schemes. Not to mention a ton of free agent starters like Gilmore, Woods, Z. Brown with limited cap space. We can all probably agree the jury is still out on Taylor, I personally think he hit his ceiling. He could be effective with a top 5 defense. It's unrealistic to think McDermott will take a 19 rank D to top 5 within a year or even two. We will eventually get there. The question is if we keep Tyrod and have another 7-9 season or worse, what then? Do we then move on from Tyrod? His contract would make that tough. Another reason why I think it will be tough for Bills is our 2017 opponents. Looks very tough. I like the idea of Cardale and a veteran FA (McCown, maybe Cutler if price is right) in competition for starting job. With that said I think we all know the importance of a legitimate franchise QB, just because it maybe tough to find doesn't mean we need to settle. 2018 is a great draft for QBS with Darnold, Rosen and Allen. They are all legit. I'm not saying tank, just time to move on and see what happens. Sorry for starting a thread so early in my tenure here at twobillsdrive just wanted to put that out there with a decision coming soon from the Bills...and maybe Doug and Sean are reading this. Lol I suspect part of the plan to to wait to see who they can sign on 3/9 before they have to make the decision on Tyrod on 3/11. I have zero confidence in Jones and I would be very disappointed if they went with him and a veteran back up next year. They need to draft a QB (doesn't have to be first round) and sign a guy like Hoyer or Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_Chick Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 We are going to go back to having a good D and ****ty O again. However, they should keep Tyrod and draft a QB when they like one. It's cliche but it's difficult to find a QB. Tyrod is a good guy to have around while you're QB shopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 If you gentlemen aren't interested in further discussion on the topic of TT and the QB future don't open or comment on them. Its pretty easy,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 If you gentlemen aren't interested in further discussion on the topic of TT and the QB future don't open or comment on them. Its pretty easy,.they are not complaining about talking about tyrod but yet another new thread that brings it up when this could have been posted in one of those many other existing threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Do the best we can with Tyrod and trade up for one of those 3 is probably what they are thinking at OBD. Yes, let's trade up in a draft that is likely to be as QB-poor as 2013 was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 While I understand your opinions are important to you, I ask that you please use the search function and add your thoughts to one of the 50 existing threads about this topic. It's a bit self-centered to believe your thoughts are unique and special and deserve their very own spot on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Can March 11 just be here now!!! I want to know if I should give up on the season now or early October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) love all the influx of BB.com refugees, rehashing what has been discussed here since mid season. Tyrod, best QB we've had since Bledsoe, which still isn't good enough, yet best option, we keep Tyrod, 7-9 or 8-8, we move on 11-5 but most likely 5-11. he can't see the whole field, throw a receiver open but he makes plays with his feet. Make Message Board Great Again Edited March 3, 2017 by uticaclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Taylor is a curse. He's just good enough to have us have this kind of argument, but he's not good enough to outdual Andy Dalton. Keeping Tyrod because he's the best QB possible for this team next year is extremely short sighted. What Taylor will do is the same as he's done the past two years. The Taylor fan boys say 'but he didn't have good receivers last year' and I say 'they got open. I saw these bad receivers consistently get open and Taylor consistently not hit them. We go for broke. We draft one this year, and we bring in a Hoyer or McCown. We can go get our Eichel while still trying to break the drought. love all the influx of BB.com refugees, rehashing what has been discussed here since mid season. Tyrod, best QB we've had since Bledsoe, which still isn't good enough, yet best option, we keep Tyrod, 7-9 or 8-8, we move on 11-5 but most likely 5-11. he can't see the whole field, throw a receiver open but he makes plays with his feet. Make Message Board Great Again It's been discussed there too, bro. And we're not done discussing it, and we won't be done discussing it even after the 11th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Tyrod Taylor has operated out of a run heavy Offense that averaged the lowest passing attempts per game in the NFL. (under 30) The architect of the Offense was sent packing two weeks into the season. While the play calling may have changed under A Lynn the playbook and run heavy mentality remained along with lower then normal reps in the passing game. At 6' 1" the West coast Offense is a much better fit for Taylors size and skill set IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Sometimes a dead horse just needs kicking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Fascinating. I thought QB was a settled issue for the Bills. Good thing we have all these new contributors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 they are not complaining about talking about tyrod but yet another new thread that brings it up when this could have been posted in one of those many other existing threads I'm curious why that matters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurt Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I think sometimes starting a new thread is not a bad thing. Old thread sometimes have 50 pages of comments and within the thread, people were pretty much saying the same thing anyway. If you don't comment on a thread, it moves down the list. By commenting on it you are keeping it alive. This place is for discussions so it is not a race to be the first person to say something. Don't respond if you don't want to discuss the topic. Maybe there are people who wants to reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregonbillsfan Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 We don't need a Tyrod, we need a whole new front end. I would like to see the bills get Mike Gannon. I think he is a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Accepting his option or even restructuring puts us on the hook for him for at least three years. His agent will make sure of it. I just don't see us making the playoffs... We have a new head coach (who I love) and coaching staff that have to implement their schemes. Not to mention a ton of free agent starters like Gilmore, Woods, Z. Brown with limited cap space. This new head coach you love reportedly wants to keep Tyrod. Do you still feel the same way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 love all the influx of BB.com refugees, rehashing what has been discussed here since mid season. Tyrod, best QB we've had since Bledsoe, which still isn't good enough, yet best option, we keep Tyrod, 7-9 or 8-8, we move on 11-5 but most likely 5-11. he can't see the whole field, throw a receiver open but he makes plays with his feet. Make Message Board Great Again Should we build a wall and make BBMB pay for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Should we build a wall and make BBMB pay for it? Now we know why they shut down the wall. No intelligent life there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Newcomers welcome! Be aware that there a lot of members on this board that spend most of their time insulting other posters. Many of the worst have the highest number of posts, not for valuable information, but from putting down other posters and the media, thinking their insults and sarcasm are funny and entertaining. Complaining about other posters and calling them derogatory names. Blaming the media for covering the Bills, shooting the messengers if they don't agree with the message. They don't want to actually talk about facts and share information and views on football and the Bills. They just like insulting people. Unfortunately they rule here. Of course we also have those that would prefer a half dozen generalized 50+ page threads that are too long to scroll through over shorter, newer specific topical threads. After all, they have delicate fingers that would be strained to quickly go through the first two or three pages of recent posts, chose to view only those that interest them, and move on. It is more fun for them to check every single post out, hoping for another chance to insult or put someone down. And of course the dreaded grammar Nazis. This is our world. Welcome to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 We don't need a Tyrod, we need a whole new front end. I would like to see the bills get Mike Gannon. I think he is a winner. This is a great post. Mike Gannon! Who dat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I'd really like to go into the season with a drafted 1st rnd QB (Mahomes or Watson), McCown & CJones Go Bills!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I believe I just counted 6 or 7 threads on page one and that doesn't included how every other subject gets hijacked to TT It would be easier to count the non-Tyrod threads. Was this impulse to start a thread just impossible to overcome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 If nothing else, the fact that the Bills have made it abundantly clear that they are DYING to upgrade from him, Tyrod Taylor should even't WANT to play in Buffalo. Everyone except Tyrod and his agent knows that he's not good. Now that Tyrod has to see that - unless the 6 on the Wonderlic really DOES make him that stupid - I think it's best that they part ways. Best for the Bills, mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Tyrod Taylor has operated out of a run heavy Offense that averaged the lowest passing attempts per game in the NFL. (under 30) The architect of the Offense was sent packing two weeks into the season. While the play calling may have changed under A Lynn the playbook and run heavy mentality remained along with lower then normal reps in the passing game. At 6' 1" the West coast Offense is a much better fit for Taylors size and skill set IMO. Points decide the winner, not passing yards. We were fine scoring points. Rex messed up the D. Yes, missing wide open receivers was frustrating, but unless we want to lose out next year and tank (with no guarantees), he's the best option I see. Which is why they are waiting until the last minute, I suppose, hoping for something better to appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Points decide the winner, not passing yards. We were fine scoring points. Rex messed up the D. Yes, missing wide open receivers was frustrating, but unless we want to lose out next year and tank (with no guarantees), he's the best option I see. Which is why they are waiting until the last minute, I suppose, hoping for something better to appear. With much respect, Augie, I ask you ... when were all of these points scored? My recollection tells me that it was never when it mattered most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 With much respect, Augie, I ask you ... when were all of these points scored? My recollection tells me that it was never when it mattered most. Well, during the games, of course. That's when they count! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Well, during the games, of course. That's when they count! You got me. Uncle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Points decide the winner, not passing yards. We were fine scoring points. Rex messed up the D. Yes, missing wide open receivers was frustrating, but unless we want to lose out next year and tank (with no guarantees), he's the best option I see. Which is why they are waiting until the last minute, I suppose, hoping for something better to appear. I agree, Taylor manages the game well enough to win football games IMO. Despite having many obstacles to overcome including a sub par supporting cast on D Tyrod Taylor has a winning record and better numbers then Jim Kelly at this point in his pro career.( NFL starts) Clearly J K had a better supporting cast... Edited March 4, 2017 by brofist61 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I agree, Taylor manages the game well enough to win football games IMO. Despite having many obstacles to overcome including a sub par supporting cast on D Tyrod Taylor has a winning record and better numbers then Jim Kelly at this point in his NFL career. Clearly J K had a better supporting cast... No kidding! The WR position injuries last year were like RB the year before. We just flat ran out of options at times. I'd like to see what Tyrod could do with options. It won't be Brady-like, but let's at least take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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