Doc Brown Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Kelly101 said: Now that the left got this omnibus bill passed the trump russia thing will go away quietly. hopefully the 2020 gop candidate doesn't turn out to be a fraud too. Trump is done, going down as the softest president ever, punked by the likes of schumer and pelosi. Strategically, it makes sense for Trump and the Democrats. Trump can run on getting a supermajority to build the wall and he vowed never to sign this kind of bill again. Democrats can run on DACA and preserving medicaid/medicare/social security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 .@RandPaul on omnibus bill: "This is why people are so upset with politics, because when the Republicans are out of power, when they're in the minority, they are the conservative party. But then when they get in the majority, there is no conservative party." Quote Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump FollowFollow @realDonaldTrump As a matter of National Security I've signed the Omnibus Spending Bill. I say to Congress: I will NEVER sign another bill like this again. To prevent this omnibus situation from ever happening again, I'm calling on Congress to give me a line-item veto for all govt spending bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: .@RandPaul on omnibus bill: "This is why people are so upset with politics, because when the Republicans are out of power, when they're in the minority, they are the conservative party. But then when they get in the majority, there is no conservative party." His twitter feed is entertaining as he has a point with all the waste. He's unique though among Republicahs in that he's libertarianish and is generally opposed to any increase in military spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 hours ago, reddogblitz said: At least they didn't have an election where the person that got the most votes lost. What election would that be? I know you can't mean the 2016 US Presidential election, considering that Trump won that 306-232. You know, 306 votes being more than 232 votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, Koko78 said: What election would that be? I know you can't mean the 2016 US Presidential election, considering that Trump won that 306-232. You know, 306 votes being more than 232 votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Trump can run on getting a supermajority to build the wall and he vowed never to sign this kind of bill again. Worked for Reagan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 11 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Thanks. I understand the argument. A couple of questions though. Are we the only 200 level democracy? Are there any others where the person with the most votes can still lose? Certainly there are. Every Parliamentarian government is prone to that scenario. The largest vote getter is never assured of being able to form a new government unless they can cobble together an alliance with whatever strange bedfellows they can cajole into a majority of seats. England and Israel come to mind, as do France, Germany, and Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 11 hours ago, DC Tom said: No, most are 300-level democracies, that parlimentarian and don't elect heads of state. Don't forget the level 350 democracies run by the Loch Ness Monster 9 hours ago, Koko78 said: What election would that be? I know you can't mean the 2016 US Presidential election, considering that Trump won that 306-232. You know, 306 votes being more than 232 votes. Yeah but only because the Russians hacked the election so Trump could get two scoops of ice cream. 10 hours ago, B-Man said: .@RandPaul on omnibus bill: "This is why people are so upset with politics, because when the Republicans are out of power, when they're in the minority, they are the conservative party. But then when they get in the majority, there is no conservative party." 10 hours ago, Doc Brown said: His twitter feed is entertaining as he has a point with all the waste. He's unique though among Republicahs in that he's libertarianish and is generally opposed to any increase in military spending. #istandwithrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, /dev/null said: Don't forget the level 350 democracies run by the Loch Ness Monster Yeah but only because the Russians hacked the election so Trump could get two scoops of ice cream. #istandwithrand I stood with Ron but won’t with rand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/23/politics/government-funding-russia-punishment/index.html Washington (CNN)Deep inside the 2,232 pages of text that make up the newly passed $1.3 trillion bill to keep the federal government open is a direct message to President Donald Trump: Russia needs to be punished. The so-called omnibus spending bill, which the Senate passed just after midnight early Friday morning, includes measures that bar a host of federal agencies from engaging with Russia and sanctions the country for a vast series of grievances. The bill is the latest attempt by Congress to take a harder stance on Russia than what the White House has been willing, so far, to take. Trump reluctantly signed a bill sanctioning Russia in August after both houses of Congress overwhelmingly passed the measure. The Trump administration blew through two key deadlines in the bill, though, and just this month announced new sanctions against Russia that were meant to be rolled out in January. Rep. Eliot Engel, the ranking Democrat on the House Foreign Relations Committee, said "with the appropriations bill, bipartisan majorities are once again sending the President tough new measures to push back on Russia and shore up our election system against future interference." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) Worth the time: https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/03/23/collusion-took-whole-obama-administration-put-team-trump-surveillance/ ...would be curous to hear Tom, Dev and others' thoughts who work in this field... Edited March 24, 2018 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Worth the time: https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/03/23/collusion-took-whole-obama-administration-put-team-trump-surveillance/ ...would be curous to hear Tom, Dev and others' thoughts who work in this field... The Cloud is mightier than the sword 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Worth the time: https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/03/23/collusion-took-whole-obama-administration-put-team-trump-surveillance/ ...would be curous to hear Tom, Dev and others' thoughts who work in this field... The writer of that article is unrealistically optimistic about how well things work in government. (I spaced it out like that so you can read between the lines.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Russians deny it? So Trump's reaction will be to a) ignore this b) Say Putin is right c) fire our general https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-russia/russia-denies-aiding-afghan-taliban-in-wake-of-u-s-generals-comments-idUSKBN1H1064 KABUL (Reuters) - Russia has rejected comments by NATO’s top commander in Afghanistan that it has been supporting and even supplying weapons to the Taliban, in a clash of words that underlines growing tension over Moscow’s involvement in the conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Trump growing a pair. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2018/03/26/trump-orders-expulsion-of-60-russian-officers-and-closure-of-consulate-in-seattle-e-u-actions-also-expected-today/?utm_term=.f49905dfff64 To the argument that is obviously going to be coming forth that this proves he isn't compromised: Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump growing a pair. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2018/03/26/trump-orders-expulsion-of-60-russian-officers-and-closure-of-consulate-in-seattle-e-u-actions-also-expected-today/?utm_term=.f49905dfff64 To the argument that is obviously going to be coming forth that this proves he isn't compromised: Yawn I'm sure he is just acting on orders from his KGB FSB masters to throw their agents out of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: I'm sure he is just acting on orders from his KGB FSB masters to throw their agents out of the country. Caught between a rock and a hard place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Caught between a rock and a hard place Not really. He'll just await further orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Not really. He'll just await further orders. Yes, could be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, Tiberius said: To the argument that is obviously going to be coming forth that this proves he isn't compromised: Yawn He's cutting the Russian foreign services budget so Putin has more money to spend on manipulating US elections. Collusion! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/25/2018 at 8:37 AM, Tiberius said: c) fire our general I will be happy if he just fires Bolton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I will be happy if he just fires Bolton. He will. After November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: He will. After November. I think he's there through the NK negotiations and the hopeful fall of the Mullahs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: I think he's there through the NK negotiations and the hopeful fall of the Mullahs. I agree. And by then, Flynn will have been cleared and he'll be back at the helm in 2019. It's going to be hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: I agree. And by then, Flynn will have been cleared and he'll be back at the helm in 2019. It's going to be hilarious. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Don't worry......... when the whore story fails, the braindead sheep over at the Clinton News Network and MSPMS will get right back to the Russian collusion delusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 9 hours ago, garybusey said: LOL McCabe (who supervised the Flynn op) did far worse, and yet he's being defended by the simpleminded partisans... He forged 302s about Flynn. The judge has already been recused and the new judge allowed for a new round of discovery - which showed Flynn's team was not given all the necessary information prior to him pleading. Its to not a matter of if Flynn will be cleared - it's a matter of when now. And NSC doesn't require a confirmation hearing... Flynn will be back and he will be back with a score to settle. Just watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 7 hours ago, njbuff said: Don't worry......... when the whore story fails, the braindead sheep over at the Clinton News Network and MSPMS will get right back to the Russian collusion delusion. I can see it now: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 The Kremlin is claiming Trump invited Putin to the White House on their call together a couple of weeks ago. No response yet from the White House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, garybusey said: The Kremlin is claiming Trump invited Putin to the White House on their call together a couple of weeks ago. No response yet from the White House That's strange. Inviting the head of state to come visit. Almost unprecedented. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) Just now, joesixpack said: That's strange. Inviting the head of state to come visit. Almost unprecedented. One thing that is certainly strange is learning about it from Russian state media 2 weeks later. Edited April 2, 2018 by garybusey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, garybusey said: One thing that is certainly strange is learning about it from Russian state media 2 weeks later. Because our state media is too busy covering strip clubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Because our state media is too busy covering strip clubs. Still 24/7 coverage of Stormy? This is bigger than the Normandy landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 42 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Because our state media is too busy covering strip clubs. Wouldn’t the info have to be released before they can cover it? Or is Hackabee too busy telling lies for the pres? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 It was reported on March 20th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It was reported on March 20th. Can you source this? This is the first I've heard of it. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/readout-president-donald-j-trumps-call-president-vladimir-putin-russia-3/ Readout of President Donald J. Trump’s Call with President Vladimir Putin of Russia President Donald J. Trump spoke today with President Vladimir Putin of Russia. The two leaders discussed the state of bilateral relations and resolved to continue dialogue about mutual national security priorities and challenges. President Trump congratulated President Putin on his March 18 re-election, and emphasized the importance of denuclearizing the Korean Peninsula. The two leaders confirmed the need for the United States and Russia to continue our shared efforts on strategic stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, garybusey said: Can you source this? This is the first I've heard of it. You would think Fox News would be talking endlessly about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, garybusey said: Can you source this? This is the first I've heard of it. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/readout-president-donald-j-trumps-call-president-vladimir-putin-russia-3/ Readout of President Donald J. Trump’s Call with President Vladimir Putin of Russia President Donald J. Trump spoke today with President Vladimir Putin of Russia. The two leaders discussed the state of bilateral relations and resolved to continue dialogue about mutual national security priorities and challenges. President Trump congratulated President Putin on his March 18 re-election, and emphasized the importance of denuclearizing the Korean Peninsula. The two leaders confirmed the need for the United States and Russia to continue our shared efforts on strategic stability. The President stated on March 20 "... The call had to do also with the fact that we will probably get together in the not too distant future." As this is now breathless breaking newsit appears that not one single reporter asked him where & when this would happen. Can't be bothered to worry about insignificant stuff like that when there are important matters such as decade old affairs to report on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 hours ago, row_33 said: Still 24/7 coverage of Stormy? This is bigger than the Normandy landing. Absolutely. The Stormy landing strip is of national importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 3 hours ago, garybusey said: The Kremlin is claiming Trump invited Putin to the White House on their call together a couple of weeks ago. No response yet from the White House 3 hours ago, garybusey said: One thing that is certainly strange is learning about it from Russian state media 2 weeks later. 1 hour ago, garybusey said: Can you source this? This is the first I've heard of it. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/readout-president-donald-j-trumps-call-president-vladimir-putin-russia-3/ All you've demonstrated is that neither you nor the American press pay any attention to White House press statements. 1 hour ago, thebug said: Wouldn’t the info have to be released before they can cover it? Or is Hackabee too busy telling lies for the pres? You just proved you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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