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10 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Oh, so you're saying it's a tragedy that the blacks were freed from slavery????  Wear that white hood and fly that Confederate flag proudly!

 

goodness no, not even a thought that would cross my mind, Canadians don't think like that. 

 

the war and carnage was the tragedy...

 

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22 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

goodness no, not even a thought that would cross my mind, Canadians don't think like that. 

 

the war and carnage was the tragedy...

 

War and carnage against slaveholders you racist!!!  Are you saying that it's unfortunate that those Republican Southerners didn't all deserve to die for enslaving black people???  SAD!!!

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19 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

War and carnage against slaveholders you racist!!!  Are you saying that it's unfortunate that those Republican Southerners didn't all deserve to die for enslaving black people???  SAD!!!

 

saints protect us...

 

 

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4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

We just don't if Russian interference changed the election results. They might have 

 

When were your opinions of Clinton and Trump formed?  For most voters, it was well before 2016.  "President Trump" was a recurring joke as early as 2000.  Hillary Clinton, you either loathed her or were part of her pesonality cult even before then.  

 

Who in the hell could the Russians have been targeting whose opinion could be swayed?  That huge "People who just Rip-Van-Winkled out of a 25-year coma" voting bloc?

 

 

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1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

When were your opinions of Clinton and Trump formed?  For most voters, it was well before 2016.  "President Trump" was a recurring joke as early as 2000.  Hillary Clinton, you either loathed her or were part of her pesonality cult even before then.  

 

Who in the hell could the Russians have been targeting whose opinion could be swayed?  That huge "People who just Rip-Van-Winkled out of a 25-year coma" voting bloc?

 

 

 

Details, Tom. Details. 

 

The dishonest and willfully ignorant are more interested in their original conclusion being proved accurate more so than they are interested in learning the truth. 

 

It's going to be a fun time on here when Horowitz's report hits. Some handles on here won't survive the fallout. 

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38 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

When were your opinions of Clinton and Trump formed?  For most voters, it was well before 2016.  "President Trump" was a recurring joke as early as 2000.  Hillary Clinton, you either loathed her or were part of her pesonality cult even before then.  

 

Who in the hell could the Russians have been targeting whose opinion could be swayed?  That huge "People who just Rip-Van-Winkled out of a 25-year coma" voting bloc?

 

 

DCTom showing how little he really understands politics! Lots of voters don't pay attention till the very end. Not everyone is totally into politics, dude. Come on, try and think a little 

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3 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

How does one win the presidential election?

 

If you're Hillary, you win it by paying for Russian spies to feed you oppo research on your opponent that you then feed to the FBI and DOJ who in turn illegally spy on her political opposition. Then, if that fails, you use the media and your Russian contacts to start a palace coup.

 

Sadly, for her and Tibs, it just didn't work. 

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26 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

If you're Hillary, you win it by paying for Russian spies to feed you oppo research on your opponent that you then feed to the FBI and DOJ who in turn illegally spy on her political opposition. Then, if that fails, you use the media and your Russian contacts to start a palace coup.

 

Sadly, for her and Tibs, it just didn't work. 

 

All she probably had to do was go to Wisconsin once or twice.

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

DCTom showing how little he really understands politics! Lots of voters don't pay attention till the very end. Not everyone is totally into politics, dude. Come on, try and think a little 

 

No one paid attention to Trump or Clinton until September of 2016?

 

Are you !@#$ing high?  

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9 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

No one paid attention to Trump or Clinton until September of 2016?

 

Are you !@#$ing high?  

Lol, whatever! 

52 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

All she probably had to do was go to Wisconsin once or twice.

Putin beat her to it 

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https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/russian-word-for-24b86618cfdf52dc0b2384627ec0e9eaf91d16b4.html

 

Boy 33, you sure are far and away the most opinionated supposed Canadian I have ever met.  And, equally telling, you don't apologize for your comments anywhere near a Canadian level.  

 

You seem to know a lot though.  I have to say that.  Do you by chance know which one of these Russian words for trolling describes what you do here?

 

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BYRON YORK: Trump and Obama: Who’s really tougher on Russia?

 

 

 

 

DEROY MURDOCK: The Russians Colluded Massively — with Democrats.

There is not enough proof of Russian collusion by Trump to fuel a stovetop pilot light.

 

In contrast, the evidence of Democratic collusion with Russia blazes on, even as Team Mueller ignores it.

• The Obama administration’s Russian Reset began in Geneva on March 6, 2009. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton huddled with Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov, and together they pressed a red button that should have been labeled “Reset” in Russian. Instead, Hillary’s aides had mislabeled it with the Russian word for “Overload.” Regardless, once pushed, the button symbolized a red dawn of increasingly cozy U.S.–Russian affairs.

 

• Obama announced on September 17, 2009, that he would cancel President George W. Bush’s plan to station missile-defense systems in Poland and the Czech Republic. “This is a U-turn in U.S. policy,” complained former Czech ambassador to Washington Alexander Vondra. “Russia had furiously opposed the project, claiming it targeted Moscow’s nuclear arsenal,” added Luke Harding and Ian Traynor of London’s Guardian. “Obama’s climb-down is likely to be seen by Russia as a victory.”

 

Indeed, Vladimir Putin applauded Obama’s strategic abandonment of the Poles and Czechs. The Russian strongman said: “I do anticipate that this correct and brave decision will be followed by others.”

 

Plus, Obama had all that extra flexibility after his re-election.

 

 

There’s more DNC-Kremlin collusion at the link. Much more.

 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, B-Man said:

BYRON YORK: Trump and Obama: Who’s really tougher on Russia?

 

 

 

 

DEROY MURDOCK: The Russians Colluded Massively — with Democrats.

There is not enough proof of Russian collusion by Trump to fuel a stovetop pilot light.

 

In contrast, the evidence of Democratic collusion with Russia blazes on, even as Team Mueller ignores it.

• The Obama administration’s Russian Reset began in Geneva on March 6, 2009. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton huddled with Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov, and together they pressed a red button that should have been labeled “Reset” in Russian. Instead, Hillary’s aides had mislabeled it with the Russian word for “Overload.” Regardless, once pushed, the button symbolized a red dawn of increasingly cozy U.S.–Russian affairs.

 

• Obama announced on September 17, 2009, that he would cancel President George W. Bush’s plan to station missile-defense systems in Poland and the Czech Republic. “This is a U-turn in U.S. policy,” complained former Czech ambassador to Washington Alexander Vondra. “Russia had furiously opposed the project, claiming it targeted Moscow’s nuclear arsenal,” added Luke Harding and Ian Traynor of London’s Guardian. “Obama’s climb-down is likely to be seen by Russia as a victory.”

 

Indeed, Vladimir Putin applauded Obama’s strategic abandonment of the Poles and Czechs. The Russian strongman said: “I do anticipate that this correct and brave decision will be followed by others.”

 

Plus, Obama had all that extra flexibility after his re-election.

 

 

There’s more DNC-Kremlin collusion at the link. Much more.

 

 

 

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Obama also cancelled Bush's sanctions over S. Ossetia.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/former-obama-chief-of-staff-said-top-senate-republican-watered-down-pre-election-russia-warning/2018/03/04/85b92940-1fd0-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.fa28dd400a0a

 

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A former chief of staff to President Barack Obama said Sunday that the Senate’s top Republican insisted that a bipartisan appeal for states to step up election security in the face of Russian aggression be “dramatically watered down” before it was issued in advance of the 2016 election.

Denis McDonough said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) was single-handedly responsible for downgrading the language in a letter “asking the states to work with us” to better secure election systems in light of intelligence indicating Russia was attempting to interfere in the election. McDonough complained that members of Congress have shown a “stunning lack of urgency about this question,” and he put the blame mostly on Republican leaders in Congress.

“The lack of urgency that we saw from the Republican leadership in 2016, we continue to see to this day today,” he said. “It’s beyond time for Congress to work with the administration, to work with the states, to ensure that our electoral systems are ready to go. This is not a game.”

 

 

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Boris Johnson has claimed England could pull out of the World Cup if there is a proven link between Russia and the recent 'poisoning attempt' of a former spy.

 

Skripal, 66, and his 33-year-old daughter were exposed to what police said was an unknown substance in the English city of Salisbury. Both are still critically ill in intensive care.

 

"We don't know exactly what has taken place in Salisbury, but if it's as bad as it looks, it is another crime in the litany of crimes that we can lay at Russia's door," Johnson told the British parliament

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/england-could-pull-out-2018-12136429

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4 minutes ago, ALF said:


Boris Johnson has claimed England could pull out of the World Cup if there is a proven link between Russia and the recent 'poisoning attempt' of a former spy.

 

Skripal, 66, and his 33-year-old daughter were exposed to what police said was an unknown substance in the English city of Salisbury. Both are still critically ill in intensive care.

 

"We don't know exactly what has taken place in Salisbury, but if it's as bad as it looks, it is another crime in the litany of crimes that we can lay at Russia's door," Johnson told the British parliament

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/england-could-pull-out-2018-12136429

Not even a chance.  Soccer is a religion over there.  England is less likely to pull out of the World Cup than Travis Henry is to just pull out.

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Shouldn't this thread really be renamed Hillary and Russia?

 

Take your political agenda out of the equation for a minute and take in all of the information you can gather. It's pretty apparent the evidence seems much stronger against the left colluding with Russia way more than the right. 

 

But, of course, non-objective people will never see it that way.

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39 minutes ago, njbuff said:

Shouldn't this thread really be renamed Hillary and Russia?

 

Take your political agenda out of the equation for a minute and take in all of the information you can gather. It's pretty apparent the evidence seems much stronger against the left colluding with Russia way more than the right. 

 

But, of course, non-objective people will never see it that way.

It does?? 

 

Lets see, Russia helped Trump win

Trump won't institute sanctions congress passed

Trump tried opening back channels to Russia 

Trump conspired with Russians during the election

trump officials have lied continuously about Russian contacts on official documents 

Trump officials have lied under oath about Russian contacts 

Trump officials have been indicted because of Russian contacts 

There is a special prosecutor looking into the matter of Russian Trump collusion 

And more

 

ya, but Hillary 

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31 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It does?? 

 

Lets see, Russia helped Trump win

Trump won't institute sanctions congress passed

Trump tried opening back channels to Russia 

Trump conspired with Russians during the election

trump officials have lied continuously about Russian contacts on official documents 

Trump officials have lied under oath about Russian contacts 

Trump officials have been indicted because of Russian contacts 

There is a special prosecutor looking into the matter of Russian Trump collusion 

And more

 

ya, but Hillary 

That list is a joke! lol!!!!

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29 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It does?? 

 

Lets see, Russia helped Trump win

Trump won't institute sanctions congress passed

Trump tried opening back channels to Russia 

Trump conspired with Russians during the election

trump officials have lied continuously about Russian contacts on official documents 

Trump officials have lied under oath about Russian contacts 

Trump officials have been indicted because of Russian contacts 

There is a special prosecutor looking into the matter of Russian Trump collusion 

And more

 

ya, but Hillary 

 

God, you either are delusional or stupid. Take your pick.

 

That's what you got??? All you have said hasn't been proven in over a year and half, but continue on.

 

No wonder people hate the left. Accuse, deny, accuse, deny, accuse, deny.

 

I guess all the postings that DR has posted is nothing but pure BS, right? Give me a break with your biased crap.

3 minutes ago, westside said:

That list is a joke! lol!!!!

 

Fib must be Don Lemonhead or Anderson Pooper.

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