YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Labrum and hernia surgeries and will be 4-6 months recovery. Will not participate in combine or early OTAs. Should be ready for camp and not considered threatening to his rookie season. He may drop regardless. http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill Edited February 1, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 This is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 He may not agree. Tough break for the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 He would have been a freak show at the combine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Well, this is setting up nicely for a very Billsy type draft. Whaley has to be in love with the idea of drafting this guy now! He loves broken football players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Well, this is setting up nicely for a very Billsy type draft. Whaley has to be in love with the idea of drafting this guy now! He loves broken football players. I smell another day 1 starter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 it'll be like signing a free agent coming off the pup list! (if we draft him you know thats what will happen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Exactly the type of guy our GM likes to draft too high. Someone who has major medical issues and won't be able to contribute now or in the future. But hey, it's not his money. Wealth re-distribution Buffalo Bills style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hooker is a beast, he could develop into a game wrecker. Ed Reed type of instincts out there. Good luck to him and I'd still take him at 10. This year is a wash anyways with a new coach and this is the high ceiling player you can wait for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Exactly the type of guy our GM likes to draft too high. Someone who has major medical issues and won't be able to contribute now or in the future. But hey, it's not his money. Wealth re-distribution Buffalo Bills style. The article states that he should be ready by TC. Overreact ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hooker is a beast, he could develop into a game wrecker. Ed Reed type of instincts out there. Good luck to him and I'd still take him at 10. This year is a wash anyways with a new coach and this is the high ceiling player you can wait for.huge fan of this player but he is a bit raw. I actually think that with AW planning to return though, he's a great pick for the Bills. He can get into the mix with AW and Graham assuming they both are back and will likely be starting for one of them sooner or later, but doesn't need to step in day 1. He needs to work on his technique and on field discipline. Talent is freakish. That reminds me- do we have a DB coach yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 huge fan of this player but he is a bit raw. I actually think that with AW planning to return though, he's a great pick for the Bills. He can get into the mix with AW and Graham assuming they both are back and will likely be starting for one of them sooner or later, but doesn't need to step in day 1. He needs to work on his technique and on field discipline. Talent is freakish. That reminds me- do we have a DB coach yet? I agree with all of it above, I don't think we have a DB coach. Tim McDonald was let go yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 An injured DB. Welcome to Buffalo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Wow - definitely coming to buffalo. See you week 7!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The question for me is, does he fall into the second round. If he does It could be an opportunity we might not have had otherwise. Get the big WR or QB in round 1 , and Hooker with our second pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The question for me is, does he fall into the second round. If he does It could be an opportunity we might not have had otherwise. Get the big WR or QB in round 1 , and Hooker with our second pick.They are projecting now between 10-17. I doubt that he would have been there at 10 otherwise. He's supposed to be ready by camp but we know how that goes. I don't see any chance of him being there in the 2nd round. He's a top 5 talent in this draft. If he slips a little someone is going to jump on him because of the value. How about Tennessee at 15? They could walk out of the 1st with Mike Williams and Malik Hooker as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The question for me is, does he fall into the second round. If he does It could be an opportunity we might not have had otherwise. Get the big WR or QB in round 1 , and Hooker with our second pick. No chance, IMO. The kid was widely considered a top 10 pick a day ago, and should be ready to go by TC. This is not a Myles Jack type situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 He may not agree. Tough break for the kid. This Well, this is setting up nicely for a very Billsy type draft. Whaley has to be in love with the idea of drafting this guy now! He loves broken football players. and this. Hooker has to know that injury debacle has just put him at the top of whaleys draft board. Dougie loves injured prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 so he had the same surgery that lawson had? the labrum surgery? and more than 3 months before lawson? if we go by lawsons time who had it may 17 and was back 10-23 that means hooker will be ready early to mid july latest. plenty of time for tc. you can bet he's gonna have a pre draft medical exam and i'd expect that to push him back to where he is slotted. i doubt this hurts his draft actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The article states that he should be ready by TC. Overreact ever? Just like our boy Shaq who was reported to be fine. And our boy Sammy who was reported to be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Good news for us. I've been seeing him go top 5 in some mocks. He would be a steal at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 so he had the same surgery that lawson had? the labrum surgery? and more than 3 months before lawson? if we go by lawsons time who had it may 17 and was back 10-23 that means hooker will be ready early to mid july latest. plenty of time for tc. you can bet he's gonna have a pre draft medical exam and i'd expect that to push him back to where he is slotted. i doubt this hurts his draft actually. both were labrum related but I'm not sure how much of a tear Hooker had. Not a peep of him being injured all year. Wonder when it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 both were labrum related but I'm not sure how much of a tear Hooker had. Not a peep of him being injured all year. Wonder when it happened. shaq had the tear like his freshman year or something right? then just finally had the surgery after the draft. firechan...i'll give you shaq in that his agent should have told him to have the surgery right after the season. but sammy was not injured until after he played for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nichebiche Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 so he had the same surgery that lawson had? the labrum surgery? and more than 3 months before lawson? if we go by lawsons time who had it may 17 and was back 10-23 that means hooker will be ready early to mid july latest. plenty of time for tc. you can bet he's gonna have a pre draft medical exam and i'd expect that to push him back to where he is slotted. i doubt this hurts his draft actually. I have to disagree. This response is simply too level-headed for a message board. You must be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 @nfldraftscout Malik Hooker had surgery Tuesday on a torn labrum and a hernia that he played through late this season. He will miss the Combine. @nfldraftscout Pretty impressive Hooker played through those injuries against Michigan and Clemson and still looked like a top 10 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 shaq had the tear like his freshman year or something right? then just finally had the surgery after the draft. firechan...i'll give you shaq in that his agent should have told him to have the surgery right after the season. but sammy was not injured until after he played for us. Sammy was "reported" to be fine for TC in 2016. He wasn't. Shaq was "reported" to be fine after we drafted him. He wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Labrum and hernia surgeries and will be 4-6 months recovery. Will not participate in combine or early OTAs. Should be ready for camp and not considered threatening to his rookie season. He may drop regardless. http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill He's still going to go first round. Like Shaq last year...potential top 10 guy that might slide to middle of first or so, maybe high teens. Seriously doubt he drops further than that. Maybe we can trade down a few slots and pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd and grab him though. Would love that if it happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 @rapsheet OSU star Malik Hooker had core muscle surgery from William Meyers. Struan Coleman did the labrum. He was told he'd be ready by training camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Labrum and hernia injuries are wear and tear injuries. Much like MLB teams have to be wary about drafting pitchers with worn out arms that require almost immediate TJS, it looks like NFL teams have to pay more attention to these players who have played so much football in high school and college that by the time the pros roll around, they are already needing maintenance and repair surgeries before they take the field as a professional. There is a difference between the Hooker and Lawson surgeries IMO. Lawson chose not to get the surgery immediately whereas Hooker did. I think that's a smart move. Edited February 1, 2017 by dpberr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Labrum and hernia injuries are wear and tear injuries. Much like MLB teams have to be wary about drafting pitchers with worn out arms that require almost immediate TJS, it looks like NFL teams have to pay more attention to these players who have played so much football in high school and college that by the time the pros roll around, they are already needing maintenance and repair surgeries before they take the field as a professional. There is a difference between the Hooker and Lawson surgeries IMO. Lawson chose not to get the surgery immediately whereas Hooker did. I think that's a smart move. Hooker only played one season of CFB though - is that more concerning? He played very little last year as a backup and redshirted as a freshman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hooker only played one season of CFB though - is that more concerning? He played very little last year as a backup and redshirted as a freshman. Not to me, I have seen enough. I had seen enough by week 3. The guy has those Honey Badger instincts and Ed Reed range "and you can't teach that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Not to me, I have seen enough. I had seen enough by week 3. The guy has those Honey Badger instincts and Ed Reed range "and you can't teach that."not in terms of projected performance but in terms of the poster who said these are "wear and tear" injuries typical of players who have played a lot of CFB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 not in terms of projected performance but in terms of the poster who said these are "wear and tear" injuries typical of players who have played a lot of CFB. Oh yeah, he didn't play much high school football even. He was a basketball player. I think that he only played 2 years of HS football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 This and this. Hooker has to know that injury debacle has just put him at the top of whaleys draft board. Dougie loves injured prospects Because he drafted one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) They are projecting now between 10-17. I doubt that he would have been there at 10 otherwise. He's supposed to be ready by camp but we know how that goes. I don't see any chance of him being there in the 2nd round. He's a top 5 talent in this draft. If he slips a little someone is going to jump on him because of the value. How about Tennessee at 15? They could walk out of the 1st with Mike Williams and Malik Hooker as an example. One can dream. If he were to make it to the back end of round 1 he becomes a trade up candidate is my point. It would be hard for me to pull the trigger on him with a Top 10 pick given the circumstances of the injury. I suspect some teams will feel that way as well. And, a fall to second half of the round. Of course, the question is how far. Edited February 1, 2017 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 If Hooker is there at 10 and the Bills don't take him, I'm going to pop a gasket. He's one of the most exciting players I've seen in a long time. Reminds me of a defensive Randy Moss. He makes hard things look easy and just seems faster and smoother and more coordinated than everyone else on the field. Would LOVE this guy - even if we have to write off the whole year to the injury, which doesn't appear to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 This and this. Hooker has to know that injury debacle has just put him at the top of whaleys draft board. Dougie loves injured prospects So this means that both Hooker & Jake Butt will be Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 we've gotta take dudes that can win us games. Hooker fits the bill in a huge area of need for us. If he's there at 10 I hope we take him or a beast WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hooker is the next NFL star at the Safety position. These surgeries are just ensuring that he will be at full health for the team that picks him going into TC. He's a ball hawk who can cover the whole back end of the field. If he had been able to go to the combine his numbers would have been dazzling imo. I hate Ohio St., trust me, but watching this guy in the 5 games I did see he always stood out. Definitely reminds me of Ed Reed. If he is there at 10 we should make that selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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