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billsfan1959 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Margarita said: If you really think that black people aren't taking this as a racial affront (rightly or wrongly) we would disagree. I think you need to be black to understand their frustration and anger at the optic of it though. I can't judge that accurately or personally because Im not black but also as Im watching these protests unfurl a Lot of the folks protesting are not exclusively black. SO perhaps racial issues are not the majority part of this anger. But it has to be at least part due to our countries history thats just my opinion. There is a huge distrust between cops and people in general and racial stereotypes you know this. Black Lives Matter is example. But don’t you think that whole “rightly or wrongly” point is important? Or is what somebody feels more important, even if it might be wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I guess Comrade De Blasio is just going to let those idiots burn down Brooklyn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, BillStime said: Ask Colin Kaepernick I don’t have his number ever since that “incident” when I lived in SF. So I’ll ask you....again. So if passive disobedience isn’t working what exactly are YOU advocating? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, BillStime said: Ask Colin Kaepernick Why? Is he your secretary? Can’t you answer for yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Liberalism is the practice of adopting a good cause, making it self serving, and taking it so far past the point of reason that it becomes destructive. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, billsfan1959 said: But don’t you think that whole “rightly or wrongly” point is important? Or is what somebody feels more important, even if it might be wrong? you know what, the reality is what I think means squat in this situation Im not burning down a persons business or looting or being a criminal....I would answer your question by saying that how will you ever be able to prove or disprove that officers views on race. The facts are that a black man is dead while handcuffed and the offender is white. And as Ive stated already ultimately these unpeaceful protests arent fruitful, they certainly aren't focused on preventing deaths to more black people, they are a release of anger and frustration at the disgrace of the death and previous ones as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I know this is a political forum but maybe just maybe these issues have zero to do with republican or democratic politics? Who are you scapegoating with your rhetoric? Likely the party you oppose. In a way are you saying the democrats are the hooligans and republicans the righteous? I call baloney on that. I'll say it again this issue is not a political issue it is a humanity issue transcendent of political party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Margarita said: you know what, the reality is what I think means squat in this situation Im not burning down a persons business or looting or being a criminal....I would answer your question by saying that how will you ever be able to prove or disprove that officers views on race. The facts are that a black man is dead while handcuffed and the offender is white. And as Ive stated already ultimately these unpeaceful protests arent fruitful, they certainly aren't focused on preventing deaths to more black people, they are a release of anger and frustration at the disgrace of the death and previous ones as well. So, your answer is we just assume the motivation was racial, add it to previous deaths of any blacks by white police officers, and arrive at the conclusion there must be some sort of systemic racism issues permeating the law enforcement community? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 So much for the curfew in Minneapolis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: So, your answer is we just assume the motivation was racial, add it to previous deaths of any blacks by white police officers, and arrive at the conclusion there must be some sort of systemic racism issues permeating the law enforcement community? you just put a whole boatload of words in my mouth I didnt say please dont do that. Did I say racism is systemic within police departments? Or that is permeates? What I did say was that I dont think it is possible to prove either way that officer was a racist but that racism HAS existed and blacks have been unfairly stereotyped and labeled due to the color of their skin by police and elsewhere in society YES and where that optic exists people will go there mentally right or wrongly. Edited May 30, 2020 by Margarita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Margarita said: you just put a whole boatload of words in my mouth I didnt say please dont do that. Did I say racism is exclusive to police departments? Or that is permeates? What I did say was that I dont think it is possible to prove either way that officer was a racist but that racism HAS existed and blacks have been unfairly stereotyped and labeled due to the color of their skin by police and elsewhere in society YES and where that optic exists people will go there mentally right or wrongly. Honestly, it is difficult to figure out what you are saying. We’ll just leave it at that. Cheers 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, njbuff said: So much for the curfew in Minneapolis. I am shocked, shocked I tell you! That rioters and looters will not obey a curfew. Edited May 30, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, njbuff said: So much for the curfew in Minneapolis. Meanwhile there was an arrest. With all the new tvs acquired you would think they would be home watching Live PD. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Interesting that the protesters chose to storm and damage CNN in Atlanta .....interesting. I'm not really buying that means they are anti-liberal MSM but it does question a narrative Im reading in this thread..... 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Honestly, it is difficult to figure out what you are saying. We’ll just leave it at that. Cheers the optic Im referring to is a video of a white cop kneeling in a black persons neck resulting in his death. The rest seemed clear enough to me. oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Margarita said: Interesting that the protesters chose to storm and damage CNN in Atlanta .....interesting. I'm not really buying that means they are anti-liberal MSM but it does question a narrative Im reading in this thread..... Well, CNN is conveniently based in Atlanta -- and a mob isn't particularly known for rational acts. Nonetheless, deliciously ironic that the dim propagandists who work for that network and have incited and amplified rage and validated the rioters as righteous protestors should get a taste of the brew they have materially contributed to. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Isn't this a wonderful night to be proud to be an American? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: Isn't this a wonderful night to be proud to be an American? It's embarrassing all around, from the garbage cop to the "protesting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Margarita said: You cannot be that stupid can you? You really asked why people across the nation are protesting? Unbelievable. Your language is divisive, your rhetoric non-inclusive. I’m watching the news and they are showing a vandalized and looted TMobile store In Minneapolis. In a separate shot, a couple women are seen loading boxed wine into a car lifted from a looted liquor store. Nothing says “Honor the memory” like a stolen celly and a glass of Franzia. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillStime said: I’m not advocating the looting and vandalism but passive disobedience is clearly not working. You implied condescendingly that another posters greatest concern was inconvenienced white people. The reality is agitators are taking advantage of unrest, they are roaming the streets like it’s Thunderdome and enablers are writing it off. Everyone loses. **everyone loses except the agitators and if I may be so bold, the people profiting off the death of the poor man this is all about. You see a man walking out of a target with a 40” tv, a woman walking out of a liquor store with bottles of gin...one man’s tragedy is another’s good fortune. Edited May 30, 2020 by leh-nerd skin-erd 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 History says the best way to protest is to burn down and loot your own community. The cop should be in custody which he is. Meanwhile, how many other people have died in these "protests"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, Margarita said: I know this is a political forum but maybe just maybe these issues have zero to do with republican or democratic politics? Who are you scapegoating with your rhetoric? Likely the party you oppose. In a way are you saying the democrats are the hooligans and republicans the righteous? I call baloney on that. I'll say it again this issue is not a political issue it is a humanity issue transcendent of political party. 99.99% of Americans were outraged at the cop. This was established everywhere by everyone of any credibility. I have my own feelings on why he wasn't in custody or why they waited to charge him but I'll hold off on that. But I just saw a white protester fake virtue signaling, surrounded by rioters spray paint F...Trump on a building in DC. This is not about justice to them it is about their hatred of Trump and the Republican party, both of which have zero to do with Floyd's death. If that's why any protester is out there they're in the wrong. And I'm betting it's a fairly large number of them. So as I watch cities burn AFTER his arrest, can someone explain to me....what now? What else is it we're supposed to do? 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Your language is divisive, your rhetoric non-inclusive. I’m watching the news and they are showing a vandalized and looted TMobile store In Minneapolis. In a separate shot, a couple women are seen loading boxed wine into a car lifted from a looted liquor store. Nothing says “Honor the memory” like a stolen celly and a glass of Franzia. where have I said that is acceptable? Nowhere. and as far as my language being divisive and non inclusive Im calling it as I see it like everyone here does theres no difference..Im not obligated to be nice to anybody you all to me are words on a screen its only personal when its been made that back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: 99.99% of Americans were outraged at the cop. This was established everywhere by everyone of any credibility. I have my own feelings on why he wasn't in custody or why they waited to charge him but I'll hold off on that. But I just saw a white protester fake virtue signaling, surrounded by rioters spray paint F...Trump on a building in DC. This is not about justice to them it is about their hatred of Trump and the Republican party, both of which have zero to do with Floyd's death. If that's why any protester is out there they're in the wrong. And I'm betting it's a fairly large number of them. So as I watch cities burn AFTER his arrest, can someone explain to me....what now? What else is it we're supposed to do? Reparations. Or maybe a have a black cop kill a white dude. Edited May 30, 2020 by RaoulDuke79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: 99.99% of Americans were outraged at the cop. This was established everywhere by everyone of any credibility. I have my own feelings on why he wasn't in custody or why they waited to charge him but I'll hold off on that. But I just saw a white protester fake virtue signaling, surrounded by rioters spray paint F...Trump on a building in DC. This is not about justice to them it is about their hatred of Trump and the Republican party, both of which have zero to do with Floyd's death. If that's why any protester is out there they're in the wrong. And I'm betting it's a fairly large number of them. So as I watch cities burn AFTER his arrest, can someone explain to me....what now? What else is it we're supposed to do? okay well your bet is your "feeling" and If Im going to be called out in political threads for my feelings I'll do the same back. other than just some random person painting F Trump and your "feeling" that this is political meh I dont buy it personally. Edited May 30, 2020 by Margarita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Margarita said: where have I said that is acceptable? Nowhere. and as far as my language being divisive and non inclusive Im calling it as I see it like everyone here does theres no difference..Im not obligated to be nice to anybody you all to me are words on a screen its only personal when its been made that back to me. I understand, and I was calling it as I see it as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Donald J Trump’s “Merica... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Finally some good news for the guy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: Donald J Trump’s “Merica... Must be awesome to be that powerful to have mind control to the point where you can make people destroy their own community. Maybe he is God. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Reparations. Or maybe a have a black cop kill a white dude. I truly think if you unwrapped all the grievances of African Americans especially in the inner cities that you would get that they no longer support or are in line with a Democrat party that is nothing like the party it was in the 1950s. Blind allegiance to it is clearly not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Must be awesome to be that powerful to have mind control to the point where you can make people destroy their own community. Maybe he is God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) Where were all these protesters when their own freedoms and ability to make a living were being trampled by tyrannical governors ? They were silent sheep. I saw very little protesting outside of Michigan. Yet here they are protesting and really mostly rioting states away from where a rogue cop’s actions resulted in one mans death. A cop who has been arrested and charged to boot. My goodness I never realized just how many losers there are in America. The secret service in Washington DC needs to exert more force on these knuckleheads. Edited May 30, 2020 by Boatdrinks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Man this is pretty bad. I hope this doesn’t escalate to gunfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Finally some good news for the guy. That's harsh. Either this is a ploy and he's down with it to give her cover from the outrage mob or they never had anything to begin with. No woman in love bales on her man for killing a guy. Not even if it was a black guy. Edited May 30, 2020 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 49 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: You implied condescendingly that another posters greatest concern was inconvenienced white people. The reality is agitators are taking advantage of unrest, they are roaming the streets like it’s Thunderdome and enablers are writing it off. Everyone loses. **everyone loses except the agitators and if I may be so bold, the people profiting off the death of the poor man this is all about. You see a man walking out of a target with a 40” tv, a woman walking out of a liquor store with bottles of gin...one man’s tragedy is another’s good fortune. I stand by my comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rob's House said: That's harsh. Either this is a ploy and he's down with it to give her cover from the outrage mob or they never had anything to begin with. No woman in love bales on her man for killing a guy. Not even if it was a black guy. Or protecting at least half their assets from a civil suit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Finally some good news for the guy. Don't blame her. If I was married to a girl and killed a person cold blooded, i'd divorce her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Where were all these protesters when their own freedoms and ability to make a living were being trampled by tyrannical governors ? They were silent sheep. I saw very little protesting outside of Michigan. Yet here they are protesting and really mostly rioting states away from where a rogue cop’s actions resulted in one mans death. A cop who has been arrested and charged to boot. My goodness I never realized just how many losers there are in America. The secret service in Washington DC needs to exert more force on these knuckleheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 There are protest going on currently in the following cities.Minneapolis MN....St Paul MN....Louisville KY....St Louis IL....Columbus OH....Denver CO....Phoenix AZ....Memphis TN....New York City NY....Los Angeles CA....Houston TX....Dallas TX....Detroit MI....Sacramento CA....Atlanta GA....Seattle WA....Las Vegas NV....Boston MA. :-((((( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Honestly people have every right to be outraged. How the hell did all those cops sit there and allow that happen? You think one guy would have had a brain and realized they were being recorded and that it looked really bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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