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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

As the new Summer collections and fashions are in the stores its a great time for looting.  Why not look you're best this Summer?

 

Sarcasm aside, the loud and clear message in the aftermath of these incidents is the government refuses to perform the most basic function of the social contract between its citizens and the government. And that is to maintain civilized order.  

 

I'll bet gun purchase and background check stats go through the roof during the second half of April when they're reported next month along with membership increases for militia groups.  Simple cause and effect.  People see these responses as a potential threat to their safety and respond to it.  And on another issue these rioting mobs provide gratuitous examples for the need of automatic weapons.    

 

As local, state, and federal officials everywhere have demonstrated they have no desire or will to maintain some semblance of social order the message is clear to businesses and residents of these communities along with the rest of the country.  You're on your own and they are not fit to govern.    

Very well said. The contract between the governing and the governed is breaking down all over the place. You know this to be true when BOTH sides are equally outraged by a single incident. 

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

https://www.the-sun.com/news/2690090/senior-female-cop-identified-daunte-wright-death-2/  

 

This does not make any sense. Used her fire arm thinking it was her taser? Ok 

That’s why it’s a mistake. An unacceptable one, but errors do occur. Did you watch the video and listen to the audio? It’s pretty clear what happened. Do you think she’s lying about what happened? 

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Very well said. The contract between the governing and the governed is breaking down all over the place. You know this to be true when BOTH sides are equally outraged by a single incident. 

What incident are both sides outraged about? 

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Due process is no more in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota

by Andrea Widburg

 

 

On Sunday, a Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, police officer, while trying to taser Daunte Wright, who was violently resisting arrest, shot him instead. Within hours, the Minneapolis suburb, which is almost 30% black was threatening the police, rioting, and looting. That’s barely a headline nowadays. What was more interesting and, to born-and-raised American citizens, more disturbing, was the fact that, when Brooklyn Center’s city manager insisted that the police officer still gets the benefit of due process, the City Council promptly fired him.

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/04/due_process_is_no_more_in_brooklyn_center_minnesota.html

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18 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Due process is no more in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota

by Andrea Widburg

 

 

On Sunday, a Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, police officer, while trying to taser Daunte Wright, who was violently resisting arrest, shot him instead. Within hours, the Minneapolis suburb, which is almost 30% black was threatening the police, rioting, and looting. That’s barely a headline nowadays. What was more interesting and, to born-and-raised American citizens, more disturbing, was the fact that, when Brooklyn Center’s city manager insisted that the police officer still gets the benefit of due process, the City Council promptly fired him.

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/04/due_process_is_no_more_in_brooklyn_center_minnesota.html

This was the single most disturbing thing to me about the whole incident, after the obligatory rioting and the media activism during the police presser.

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I obviously disagree with the rioting but this cop must be held liable with jail time based on the info I have seen. It might be manslaughter but her actions are why that guy is dead and her mistake is unacceptable, as a law enforcement you can't make a mistake of which weapon you are pulling.

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14 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I obviously disagree with the rioting but this cop must be held liable with jail time based on the info I have seen. It might be manslaughter but her actions are why that guy is dead and her mistake is unacceptable, as a law enforcement you can't make a mistake of which weapon you are pulling.

So you mean she must receive due process? 
 

  Let’s not forget the individual decided to resist arrest while he was being cuffed. His actions led to her taking action. Did you watch the video with audio. Seems pretty clear her intent was to tase the suspect. Of course she should not continue as a Police officer and will probably be liable in a civil sense, but I don’t think she should be charged criminally. 

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3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

So you mean she must receive due process? 

Yes, it needs to go through the process but I am hoping this does not qualify for immunity. I am willing to change my mind if new info comes out but it seems straight forward.

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1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Yes, it needs to go through the process but I am hoping this does not qualify for immunity. I am willing to change my mind if new info comes out but it seems straight forward.

Immunity from what? I don’t see criminal intent here but I don’t think she would be indemnified from civil penalty. 

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3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

That’s why it’s a mistake. An unacceptable one, but errors do occur. Did you watch the video and listen to the audio? It’s pretty clear what happened. Do you think she’s lying about what happened? 

What incident are both sides outraged about? 

She could be. That was my first impression. Not going to simply take her at her word, but see that it is investigated. 

 

If that is what happened there needs to be some better way to make sure they absolutly know which weapon they are using. 

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1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

So you mean she must receive due process? 
 

  Let’s not forget the individual decided to resist arrest while he was being cuffed. His actions led to her taking action. Did you watch the video with audio. Seems pretty clear her intent was to tase the suspect. Of course she should not continue as a Police officer and will probably be liable in a civil sense, but I don’t think she should be charged criminally. 

If they go by previous incidents, the cop is probably looking at involuntary manslaughter charges at minimum.  Here's one comparable one.

 

WHAT ARE SOME OTHER CASES?

 

In one of most well-known cases, a transit officer responding to a fight at a train station in Oakland, California, killed 22-year-old Oscar Grant in 2009. The officer, Johannes Mehserle, testified at trial that, fearing Grant had a weapon, he reached for his stun gun but mistakenly pulled his .40-caliber handgun instead. Grant was shot as he lay face down. Mehserle was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to two years in prison. His department paid $2.8 million to Grant’s daughter and her mother.

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1 hour ago, Unforgiven said:

Huh...it's like Rashida, Tibs and Billstime are the same person.

No more incarceration.  So let the Capitol insurrections go she is saying?  Let all the rapists and murders run free?  No police she says?  Its easy to shoot your mouth off like that when you're hiding behind thousands of armed National Guard soldiers in the Capitol surrounded by a fence with sharpshooters and personal security details.  But when you have to directly deal with this crap its a different perspective.     

 

What people like this mentally ill hose bag don't say is Dwight Wright was the subject of a traffic stop by police, had an outstanding warrant, refused to comply with requests from police, and continued to ignore the instructions from the cops, went back to his car for some reason unknown to them, and tried to drive away.  Shooting victim?  Yes.  Innocent shooting victim?  No.   He did everything wrong here and no more excuses for stupidity.  Anybody with half a brain and no street attitude would have walked away alive from that.  Reality.    

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


I’d be willing to consider un-policed zones as long as those calling for un-policed zones commit to live and work there and only there. 

What if the government was to cede the state of say, Minnesota as the exclusive such zone? Anyone who identifies as “ un-policed” can live there and only there. Kind of a huge experiment in “ social justice”. The rest of us can then get on with our lives. 

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

If they go by previous incidents, the cop is probably looking at involuntary manslaughter charges at minimum.  Here's one comparable one.

 

WHAT ARE SOME OTHER CASES?

 

In one of most well-known cases, a transit officer responding to a fight at a train station in Oakland, California, killed 22-year-old Oscar Grant in 2009. The officer, Johannes Mehserle, testified at trial that, fearing Grant had a weapon, he reached for his stun gun but mistakenly pulled his .40-caliber handgun instead. Grant was shot as he lay face down. Mehserle was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to two years in prison. His department paid $2.8 million to Grant’s daughter and her mother.

Could be. I mean, it was in California so certainly could happen in a place like Minny. 

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wistv.com/2021/04/15/neighbors-react-protest-following-confrontation-outside-summit-home/%3foutputType=amp

 

I need someone to explain to me the defense of the black dude besides you are a racist? The black dude was harassing a girl and then hanging around her house after her neighbors intervened. The back dude was not physically assaulted despite taking steps towards the man's wife. He had no reason to be there except to annoy the residents. If this was my son I would be embarrassed not trying to turn him into a victim. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wistv.com/2021/04/15/neighbors-react-protest-following-confrontation-outside-summit-home/%3foutputType=amp

 

I need someone to explain to me the defense of the black dude besides you are a racist? The black dude was harassing a girl and then hanging around her house after her neighbors intervened. The back dude was not physically assaulted despite taking steps towards the man's wife. He had no reason to be there except to annoy the residents. If this was my son I would be embarrassed not trying to turn him into a victim. 

 

That puts a whole new paint job on things. I was led to believe the guy was just walking down the sidewalk and was accosted by a white guy.

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Minneapolis City Council votes on what police response to rioting is not allowed, and ‘what could possibly go wrong?’

 

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/04/16/minneapolis-city-council-votes-on-what-police-response-to-rioting-is-not-allowed-and-what-could-possibly-go-wrong/

 

 

With a verdict in the Derek Chauvin trial expected possibly in the coming days, cities around the country are making preparations:

 

 

One of those cities is of course Minneapolis, except if the City Council there gets its way, any violence won’t be able to be handled too easily:

 

 

 

So they deny options to use non lethal. This may lead to actual lethal encounters...or is this what is really desired?

 

 

 

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On 4/13/2021 at 1:38 PM, Boatdrinks said:

What if the government was to cede the state of say, Minnesota as the exclusive such zone? Anyone who identifies as “ un-policed” can live there and only there. Kind of a huge experiment in “ social justice”. The rest of us can then get on with our lives. 

Could be. I mean, it was in California so certainly could happen in a place like Minny. 

 

Summer of Love: year 2.

 

They tried removing police in CHAZ... but that only lasted a few hours; the rioters created their own security force; which allowed theft, rape, and murder, but kept the white people from invading the black-only spaces.

 

 

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4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 



B-Man posting dishonest Tweets by known liars Jack Posobiec and Andy Ngo (two guys who would call a bee "antifa" if it landed on their mac salad) , without any context, elaboration, or verification of accuracy: A tradition unlike any other.

 

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10 minutes ago, Logic said:



B-Man posting dishonest Tweets by known liars Jack Posobiec and Andy Ngo (two guys who would call a bee "antifa" if it landed on their mac salad) , without any context, elaboration, or verification of accuracy: A tradition unlike any other.

 

 

 

Nope.

 

I mentioned last week, we are not going with that "oh your sources are bad sh*t" anymore.

 

The video is there, the story of Antifa setting the fire is on multiple mainstream media sites  (which you should have checked first if you were smart)

 

You can keep your childish opinions of people who post stories that you can't admit to, it won't fly anymore.

 

 

 

 

Here..............this is satire...................or is it ?

 

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4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Nope.

 

I mentioned last week, we are not going with that "oh your sources are bad sh*t" anymore.

 

The video is there, the story of Antifa setting the fire is on multiple mainstream media sites  (which you should have checked first if you were smart)

 

You can keep your childish opinions of people who post stories that you can't admit to, it won't fly anymore.

 

 

 

 

Here..............this is satire...................or is it ?

 



Feel free to provide a link to any reputable news source saying that "Antifa" set fires in downtown Portland last night. Fires were indeed set. Like I said, Ngo and Prosobiec would call anyone who looks at them funny "antifa".

Please also feel free to include some context around the events: The property destruction that occurred was in response to and in protest of the Portland police killing an unarmed man in the midst of a mental health crisis earlier that day.

Lastly, if you're going to quote people like Andy Ngo, it absolutely SHOULD be pointed out as an untrustworthy source every time. Not because the raw video he posts isn't actual raw video of a real thing that occurred, but because his descriptions of what the videos show have been proven to be exaggerations, misinformation, or outright lies, time and time again. They misconstrue or inaccurately describe what actually occurred, again and again and again.

Take the fire video you posted. Actual fact: Fires were set and property destroyed in downtown Portland after police killed an unarmed man earlier in the day. Ngo/Prosobiec version: "Antifa sets Apple store on fire!"  [notice no context mentioned, no proof that the boogeyman "antifa" had any involvement]. 

 

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1 hour ago, Logic said:



 

 

Hilarious response.

 

You "neglected' to point out that the rioters and burning were in response to a police shooting earlier.  Oh no

 

Well, you may have become conditioned to that response, but the majority of Americans have not. Rioting is a criminal act.

 

And as for your absurd characterizations of the reporting of Andy No and Jack Posobiec, it is laughably over the top.

 

I don't have to prove anything about it, anyone who took the time to read theirs (and others) reports is better served to post on liberal protests.

 

Your (illogical) rant exposes your own personal quite well thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Logic said:



Feel free to provide a link to any reputable news source saying that "Antifa" set fires in downtown Portland last night. Fires were indeed set. Like I said, Ngo and Prosobiec would call anyone who looks at them funny "antifa".

Please also feel free to include some context around the events: The property destruction that occurred was in response to and in protest of the Portland police killing an unarmed man in the midst of a mental health crisis earlier that day.

Lastly, if you're going to quote people like Andy Ngo, it absolutely SHOULD be pointed out as an untrustworthy source every time. Not because the raw video he posts isn't actual raw video of a real thing that occurred, but because his descriptions of what the videos show have been proven to be exaggerations, misinformation, or outright lies, time and time again. They misconstrue or inaccurately describe what actually occurred, again and again and again.

Take the fire video you posted. Actual fact: Fires were set and property destroyed in downtown Portland after police killed an unarmed man earlier in the day. Ngo/Prosobiec version: "Antifa sets Apple store on fire!"  [notice no context mentioned, no proof that the boogeyman "antifa" had any involvement]. 

 

I am curious who you consider a trustworthy source- CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, NYT "They misconstrue or inaccurately describe what actually occurred, again and again and again." All of them simply google and you will see. No one should take anyone side and run with it but you don't even dispute the facts you just tried to justify it by claiming something with no evidence.

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3 hours ago, Logic said:



Feel free to provide a link to any reputable news source saying that "Antifa" set fires in downtown Portland last night. Fires were indeed set. Like I said, Ngo and Prosobiec would call anyone who looks at them funny "antifa".

Please also feel free to include some context around the events: The property destruction that occurred was in response to and in protest of the Portland police killing an unarmed man in the midst of a mental health crisis earlier that day.

Lastly, if you're going to quote people like Andy Ngo, it absolutely SHOULD be pointed out as an untrustworthy source every time. Not because the raw video he posts isn't actual raw video of a real thing that occurred, but because his descriptions of what the videos show have been proven to be exaggerations, misinformation, or outright lies, time and time again. They misconstrue or inaccurately describe what actually occurred, again and again and again.

Take the fire video you posted. Actual fact: Fires were set and property destroyed in downtown Portland after police killed an unarmed man earlier in the day. Ngo/Prosobiec version: "Antifa sets Apple store on fire!"  [notice no context mentioned, no proof that the boogeyman "antifa" had any involvement]. 

 

Seriously Logic, this is as weak as it gets.  It’s bullsh*t of the highest order, and just to

provide context, burning some &$*& to the ground because you feel like burning some &$*& doesn’t really require context.  I know this because tens of millions of people who hear the same story don’t set their neighbors house on fire, throw concrete cinderblocks at the mailman’s head or loot the Dollar General when they hear it. 

 

Sounds to me like the Ngo/Prosobiec version was spot on. 

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19 hours ago, Logic said:



B-Man posting dishonest Tweets by known liars Jack Posobiec and Andy Ngo (two guys who would call a bee "antifa" if it landed on their mac salad) , without any context, elaboration, or verification of accuracy: A tradition unlike any other.

 

 

Context?   What, you been sleeping the past year?  

14 hours ago, Logic said:



Feel free to provide a link to any reputable news source saying that "Antifa" set fires in downtown Portland last night. Fires were indeed set. Like I said, Ngo and Prosobiec would call anyone who looks at them funny "antifa".

Please also feel free to include some context around the events: The property destruction that occurred was in response to and in protest of the Portland police killing an unarmed man in the midst of a mental health crisis earlier that day.

Lastly, if you're going to quote people like Andy Ngo, it absolutely SHOULD be pointed out as an untrustworthy source every time. Not because the raw video he posts isn't actual raw video of a real thing that occurred, but because his descriptions of what the videos show have been proven to be exaggerations, misinformation, or outright lies, time and time again. They misconstrue or inaccurately describe what actually occurred, again and again and again.

Take the fire video you posted. Actual fact: Fires were set and property destroyed in downtown Portland after police killed an unarmed man earlier in the day. Ngo/Prosobiec version: "Antifa sets Apple store on fire!"  [notice no context mentioned, no proof that the boogeyman "antifa" had any involvement]. 

 

 

Sound asleep.  Never mind. Carry on. 

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