YoloinOhio Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Chip getting rid of all the good white players too. What now?! I smell an Ed Wang signing in Philly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) I think they like Miller too much to spend big money on Mathis plus there is Urbik as backup C/G. I know Miami wants him bad so I hope he doesn't end up there  I don't think signing or not signing Mathis has anything whatsoever to do with Miller. Edited June 11, 2015 by The Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Is he subject to waivers? Nope. He's free to sign anywhere... Also Denver really needs OL help and he might see that as a great spot. Yeah, that seems like a good landing spot. Manning always makes his OL look good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 My one worry would be that Mathis is coming from a zone system, but Roman does like to play with guards pulling. Â I'd say chase him full speed ahead. Overhauled line for the ground and pound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 If it makes the team better, sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 They have cap space? I feel like they've been spending a lot lately. Not always a great barometer for figuring cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 This is simple..... Â Top rated run blocker last year..... Â We want to run the ball.....a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Breaking news: we can't afford him (if we want Dareus back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Breaking news: we can't afford him (if we want Dareus back). I'm not sure about that. He was making $5M a year, and from what I hear from Philly radio they expect him to get less than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Glenn - Mathis - Wood - Incognito - Henderson  Miller (G) - Urbik (C/G) - Kujo (T)  Miller inactive on game days.  Cuts - Williams and Richardson  Doesn't look to bad at all, Bills gotta make a run at the least, although can't say I like there chances. this is where the Harvin money really comes back to bite, not a guy that was needed with the scheme change and would have been much better spent on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Glenn - Mathis - Wood - Incognito - Henderson  Miller (G) - Urbik (C/G) - Kujo (T)  Miller inactive on game days.  Cuts - Williams and Richardson  Doesn't look to bad at all, Bills gotta make a run at the least, although can't say I like there chances. this is where the Harvin money really comes back to bite, not a guy that was needed with the scheme change and would have been much better spent on the OL. This year. They have the option in his contract to opt out. If they don't that's 20m over the next 2 years they will save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Glenn - Mathis - Wood - Incognito - Henderson  Miller (G) - Urbik (C/G) - Kujo (T)  Miller inactive on game days.  Cuts - Williams and Richardson  Doesn't look to bad at all, Bills gotta make a run at the least, although can't say I like there chances. this is where the Harvin money really comes back to bite, not a guy that was needed with the scheme change and would have been much better spent on the OL. Miller is going to be playing from the sounds of it. They can cut Williams and pay Mathis $4M without a problem I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yeah, this year Harvin is not too expensive and I fully expect him to be a factor for us. We will see what they do about him after this. Would have to be a killer season not to void those next two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) Miller is going to be playing from the sounds of it. They can cut Williams and pay Mathis $4M without a problem I believe.And the good thing for Mathis is he might be a backup which would prolong his career while making a nice chunk of change. Though I doubt he would be a backup. Edited June 11, 2015 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I wonder how close Shady and Mathis are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Miller is going to be playing from the sounds of it. They can cut Williams and pay Mathis $4M without a problem I believe. they have like 7m left currently, post rookies, last i saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterNextYearRight? Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Cut Williams to save 2m, and there is the unfortunate possibility F.Jackson gets cut which is another 2(?)m. They can afford to pay Mathis what he was making before, maybe even more. If Mathis is looking for less then five million per year, this signing has to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 And the good thing for Mathis is he might be a backup which would prolong his career while making a nice chunk of change. Though I doubt he would be a backup. the dude didnt force his way out of pocketing about 12m the next two years to be a backup. Â hes going to get a starting deal somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Would be REALLY interesting if the bills do this...... Â Would be going from totally guard deficient from one year to QUALITY guards in the next..... Â Cog may end up backing up in a situaiton like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Cut Williams to save 2m, and there is the unfortunate possibility F.Jackson gets cut which is another 2(?)m. They can afford to pay Mathis what he was making before, maybe even more. If Mathis is looking for less then five million per year, this signing has to happen. his salary this year was slated to be 5.5m, and 6m next- not sure if any bonuses above that..... he was holding out for more money. just some perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) Would not be a smart signing at the rumored price he wants, over $5 million. Bills need to now keep their own, not add, unless its a QB. They could cut Fred Jackson and Chris Williams though, then its possible. Edited June 11, 2015 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 They have cap space? I feel like they've been spending a lot lately.i thought they did have some for this year but don't care enough to look up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 i thought they did have some for this year but don't care enough to look up. Like $6-$7 milliion space. But a lot of big money players to sign. That can be carried over to next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 he was holding out for more money. just some perspective. and he didn't get it. Â I don't know how losing a holdout by getting released outright, and not traded, improves your bargaining position with the other 31 teams. IF somebody thought he was worth the money he was being paid, they would have traded for him. Â So, we have to start with less than he was going to make the next 2 years, don't we? I mean, who releases an All-Pro, #2 PFF guard, unless the guy swears he isn't gonna play a single down without more $? Is Kelly's need for control worth dumping a guy like Mathis? We don't know. Regardless, Mathis gambled, and lost. Â The rest of the teams have their perspective as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I wonder how close Shady and Mathis are.i don't know but 1) they both hate chip and 2) the bills said shady was one of their best recruiters during FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Miller is going to be playing from the sounds of it. They can cut Williams and pay Mathis $4M without a problem I believe. He'll want more than $4 million, however, as that was the sticking point in Philly. Â May have to shuffle some other contracts around to pay him in the $6 million range over 2-3 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 i don't know but 1) they both hate chip and 2) the bills said shady was one of their best recruiters during FA Â He needed some friends to come to town so he finally had an excuse not to hang out with Boobie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Save money and re-sign our other players. No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Save money and re-sign our other players. No thanks Ralph speaks from the grave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Â He needed some friends to come to town so he finally had an excuse not to hang out with Boobie. he is always hanging out with Felton so you may be right. Poor Boobie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 he is always hanging out with Felton so you may be right. Poor Boobie. Â Boobie shouldn't have bowled on his turn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Ralph speaks from the grave... Not at all. Check our cap situation moving forward. Bills cant sign free agents unless you lose players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Is someone tracking Air Pegula... You know, just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Can't believe I beat Yolo (fist pump) Â Â YOLO ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL. Probably napping next to Buddy in their matching football brown barkerloungers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) Cutting Chris Williams frees up only $2.5 million with a dead cap hit of $875,000. Another $2.7 million could be found by cutting Freddie (highly doubtful, but who knows given the depth at RB). Same for Boobie ($1.1 million cap save, $166,666 dead cap). Â If they're comfortable with the progress of Duke Williams, they could keep Graham at corner and trade McLuv'n ($3.9 million in cap space, $1 million in dead cap). Â I'd like to see them take a run at Mathis but suspect he'd prefer Denver or even Miami, since he's a southern boy and Miami-based Drew Rosenhaus is his agent... Â http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Chip-really-did-it-Mathis-released.html?mr=1&submit=Vote&oid=2&307039281=Y&pid=307039281&cid=8500281#poll_questions_top Edited June 11, 2015 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 @MichaelSalfino Chip Kelly is in the process of flaming out as an NFL coach but no one sees it yet. He can't coach adults it appears. #Eagles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) This is exactly what McCoy meant when he called Kelly a racist. He was talking about top players who spoke their mind. At that point it was only black players that had been gotten rid of, and like it or not, a black guy (with good reason because of history although it may not be true) will perceive that as black entering into the equation. That whitey in power doesn't like anyone usurping or questioning or equaling that power and whitey ESPECIALLY does not like when it is a black guy. Â McCoy was right then and he is right now. It's just not as much a black thing as he perceived it. Kelly doesn't like strong willed and loud mouthed players on his team. Edited June 11, 2015 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onceagain778 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 1-year contract would be great; counting on both Miller and Incognito to be both healthy and productive is not the smartest thing IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 DAMN! Freaking RACIST!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Not at all. Check our cap situation moving forward. Bills cant sign free agents unless you lose players. Sadly, this is correct. It would be worth it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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