Luxy312 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 When all is said, Matt Cassel is basically Kyle Orton 2.0 folks. They're both 6-4 230ish pocket passers. They both have career completion around 59-60%. TD/INT ratio is almost identical at 101/69 and 96/70. Yards per completion nearly the same at 11.2 and 11.3. To a degree, it makes me wonder if the Bills told Orton that EJ was going to get his shot at being a starter this season. It would explain his retirement and just not wanting to go through the camp, preseason, etc., and possibly not be the starter. Maybe Matt Cassel sees this as his last chance of being a starter. He will earn almost $5 million for his one year of service this year. With that said, if he's the week 1 starter, I don't think the Bills are any better off at QB than they were last year with Orton at the helm. They're better off at RB of course, but even McCoy is a TBD considering the offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 When all is said, Matt Cassel is basically Kyle Orton 2.0 folks. They're both 6-4 230ish pocket passers. They both have career completion around 59-60%. TD/INT ratio is almost identical at 101/69 and 96/70. Yards per completion nearly the same at 11.2 and 11.3. To a degree, it makes me wonder if the Bills told Orton that EJ was going to get his shot at being a starter this season. It would explain his retirement and just not wanting to go through the camp, preseason, etc., and possibly not be the starter. Maybe Matt Cassel sees this as his last chance of being a starter. He will earn almost $5 million for his one year of service this year. With that said, if he's the week 1 starter, I don't think the Bills are any better off at QB than they were last year with Orton at the helm. They're better off at RB of course, but even McCoy is a TBD considering the offensive line. Agreed. It's nothing against Cassel. He's had a solid career after never playing in college. But he is what he is. Same with Orton. EJ needs to earn it but if it's close, IMO, you give the edge to EJ. As low as his percentage of being a franchise qb, we have a 10 year track record of Him not being good enough. Love him as a backup/ mentor though. I think Orton was a douche and Cassel seems like a good dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 When all is said, Matt Cassel is basically Kyle Orton 2.0 folks. They're both 6-4 230ish pocket passers. They both have career completion around 59-60%. TD/INT ratio is almost identical at 101/69 and 96/70. Yards per completion nearly the same at 11.2 and 11.3. To a degree, it makes me wonder if the Bills told Orton that EJ was going to get his shot at being a starter this season. It would explain his retirement and just not wanting to go through the camp, preseason, etc., and possibly not be the starter. Maybe Matt Cassel sees this as his last chance of being a starter. He will earn almost $5 million for his one year of service this year. With that said, if he's the week 1 starter, I don't think the Bills are any better off at QB than they were last year with Orton at the helm. They're better off at RB of course, but even McCoy is a TBD considering the offensive line. Orton was all but retired when his ties were cut with Dallas in early summer. KO sat at home doing nothing until Buffalo called. KO went back into retirement instead of getting flattened for 16 of 17 continuous Sundays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOTC Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Why did they just say on ESPN that the Cassel deal may fall apart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Why did they just say on ESPN that the Cassel deal may fall apart? Bills going for Brees?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It cant fall apart it has already been completed. Cassell wasnt a FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It cant fall apart it has already been completed. Cassell wasnt a FA Neither were McCoy and Alonso and that had to be finalized today. Not sure what is going on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOTC Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I dunno, but they just said on NFL insiders like 2 minutes ago that something was going on with the trade and it may fall apart. Has the team officially announced his arrival yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It cant fall apart it has already been completed. Cassell wasnt a FA Wrong. It hasn't been completed and hasn't been announced officially today. So it still could fall apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Wrong. It hasn't been completed and hasn't been announced officially today. So it still could fall apart. Please, God. No!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Apps Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Joe Chenelly @jchenelly Report: The #Bills-#Vikings Matt Cassel trade is contingent on a physical. Cassel has not yet reported for that physical. Wasn't their a report Cassel wasn't happy traded to the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) I can think of a couple reasons why this could fall apart. Either the Vilings got a better offer from another team or the Bills have decided to go in another direction. Another possibility of what could hv happened is maybe the trade was contingent on Cassel taking a pay cut as part of restructured contract and they couldn't agree. Edited March 10, 2015 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I read on twitter that he has nor reported for his physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherman Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I thought I saw earlier that the Bills will announce Cassell tomorrow at a noon press conference. I don't know though. I've looked at so much stuff today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Joe Chenelly @jchenelly Report: The #Bills-#Vikings Matt Cassel trade is contingent on a physical. Cassel has not yet reported for that physical. Wasn't their a report Cassel wasn't happy traded to the Bills? If Cassell wasn't happy about the trade then he should retire. It's the best possible available situation for him in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Vikes already signed Shawn Hill to take his place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan888 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Time to bring back Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Define very solid NFL QB Fitz could be described as very solid NFL QB, so too could Alex Smith and a Russel Wilson some 2014 stats to compare EJ Manuel Comp % 58.0, YPG 167.6 Meh Cassel Comp % 57.7, YPG 141.7 I am not trashing Meh, l am just saying if the 2 are = let the younger guy play! I see that you are up to your old tricks again. "Meh" Cassel? Listen I don't like him that much either but you have to admit he's shown more in this league that EJ Womanuel, right? I mean Cassel had a great 2010 in which he threw for 27 TD's, 7 INT's and took his team to the playoffs. What has Womanuel shown us? I think it will be a tough competition between Cassel and Womanuel if that's the way it shakes out but I still think I'd give Cassel the nod. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Time to bring back Fitz. He still owns his house in Hamburg. Edited March 10, 2015 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Time to bring back Fitz. I'm ok with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I see that you are up to your old tricks again. "Meh" Cassel? Listen I don't like him that much either but you have to admit he's shown more in this league that EJ Womanuel, right? I mean Cassel had a great 2010 in which he threw for 27 TD's, 7 INT's and took his team to the playoffs. What has Womanuel shown us? I think it will be a tough competition between Cassel and Womanuel if that's the way it shakes out but I still think I'd give Cassel the nod. We'll see. Are you really making fun of Manuel by calling him a woman? Are you 12? And of course, Cassel has done more. He's played like 7 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 He still owns his house in Hamburg. Aren't we still paying him anyway, can we just roll it all together... Or is his dead money finally off the books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Are you really making fun of Manuel by calling him a woman? Are you 12? And of course, Cassel has done more. He's played like 7 more years. I have stated it numerous times: I am OK with having differing opinions. You like EJ Manuel, others don't. So be it. But when this guy goes around mocking other QB's who have shown more in this league than Manuel ever has (or probably ever will for that matter), I'm just not cool with it. You adamantly defend a guy who did nothing but show up last year and suck so bad in camp and the preseason that he forced the coach and GM into a shouting match and then into making a desperation move in signing a QB who chews Skoal, has a beer gut and probably wasn't even working out, then loses his job to said guy and can't even get his job back when said guy sucks too. But you have the nerve to make fun of Matt Cassel? No. Sorry. Edited March 10, 2015 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 @AdamBenigni: Told by multiple sources that there is no threat to the #Bills trade for Cassel falling through... still digging on this @wgrz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I have stated it numerous times: I am OK with having differing opinions. You like EJ Manuel, others don't. So be it. But when this guy goes around mocking other QB's who have shown more in this league than Manuel ever has (or probably ever will for that matter), I'm just not cool with it. You adamantly defend a guy who did nothing but show up last year and suck so bad in camp and the preseason that he forced the coach and GM into a shouting match and then into making a desperation move in signing a QB who chews Skoal, has a beer gut and probably wasn't even working out, then loses his job to said guy and can't even get his job back when said guy sucks too. But you have the nerve to make fun of Matt Cassel? No. Sorry. Calling a guy who has been an average to below average Qb for 10 years meh is the same as calling Manuel a female? Ok. I think you're a good poster but you are entering troll territory In regards to Manuel. But keep ripping a 24 year old who is playing the hardest position in sports. Like most Qbs, EJ will probably fail and you'll get your wish to brag about how right you were. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It's really not clever, and is kinda sexist. But I'll leave the politics for another forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It's really not clever, and is kinda sexist. But I'll leave the politics for another forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 As Cassell goes so will go the Bills. We can only go so far with grest defense and running. We need to have quality play at the most important position. Let's hope he is an improvement over last year's mess, because if he is the rest of the pieces are in the puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 As Cassell goes so will go the Bills. We can only go so far with grest defense and running. We need to have quality play at the most important position. Let's hope he is an improvement over last year's mess, because if he is the rest of the pieces are in the puzzle. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Tim Graham @ByTimGraham 4s4 seconds ago Knowledgeable source on Bills/Matt Cassel: "That deal is done." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 @RapSheet: For those asking (pretty sure no one): Matt Cassels press conference to discuss the trade is tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Schefter on Cassel: Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter3 mins3 minutes ago QB Matt Cassel just passed physical with Bills; trade with Vikings about to become official. 0 replies199 retweets135 favorites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Joe Chenelly @jchenelly Report: The #Bills-#Vikings Matt Cassel trade is contingent on a physical. Cassel has not yet reported for that physical. Wasn't their a report Cassel wasn't happy traded to the Bills? Damn, seems this guy was right. Again. Didn't see that posted anywhere else first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Well, if we sign Boling and someone get a serviceable RT, I'm bullish on Cassel. Some of his OLines have been atrocious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Your quote is amazing. Right up there with when he said Brees was putting up "Star Wars" numbers against the Bills and also when Steve Tasker said that watching Fred Jackson was like watching someone pour a glass of water. Oddly enough, it was from a game where Rex Ryan's Jets came into Orchard Park and absolutely pummeled the Bills, like men playing against boys--- the game with Donte's infamous whiff on LaDainian. They were definitely bullies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 @caplannfl: #Bills a lot of time today considering options if Cassel didn't pass his physical, including Hoyer and Matt Moore, per sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Apps Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Tim Graham @ByTimGraham I'm told hangup in Matt Cassel trade was his broken foot. Cassel initially failed his physical, but Bills noted the risk then passed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Tim Graham @ByTimGraham I'm told hangup in Matt Cassel trade was his broken foot. Cassel initially failed his physical, but Bills noted the risk then passed him. Huh? Noted the risk? What does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Huh? Noted the risk? What does that mean? Accepted "as is" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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