papazoid Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 it is very likely the ralph will not be ready for next sundays cleveland game The Buffalo Bills Stadium Is Buried In 6 Feet Of Snow — And It Might Be Weeks Before They Can Play NFL Games There http://finance.yahoo.com/news/buffalo-bills-stadium-buried-6-143453695.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PromoTheRobot Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 it is very likely the ralph will not be ready for next sundays cleveland game The Buffalo Bills Stadium Is Buried In 6 Feet Of Snow — And It Might Be Weeks Before They Can Play NFL Games There http://finance.yahoo.com/news/buffalo-bills-stadium-buried-6-143453695.html There is nothing we don't already know in this story. In fact it's the writer making the leap that RWS won't be ready in time. I assume the warm weather will melt a lot of the snow this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 There is nothing we don't already know in this story. In fact it's the writer making the leap that RWS won't be ready in time. I assume the warm weather will melt a lot of the snow this week. good, then we can see if the game can be played under water! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 good, then we can see if the game can be played under water! they have drainage systems in place under the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 It is my thought - hope - that the a Bills will do everything in their power to have the stadium in good enough shape to play the game next week if for no other reason that they are likely losing millions from this week's being moved as it is. If the forecast holds up they should be able to get it done with a ton of effort. It may not be pretty but it should get done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Do you think the Cleveland game will be televised on DirecTV?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) they have drainage systems in place under the field my neighborhood has drainage too - but it would be under water if I had that much snow im not pretending to know the specifics of the drainage at the Ralph...i just know that that a stadium full of snow melting probably is a lot for any drainage system to handle Edited November 21, 2014 by PaattMaann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Just mentioned in another thread ...but in his interview with Joe B last night, Russ seemed to be a little pissed that Shefter started this whole"might not be ready for Cleveland" nonsense. Russ seemed pretty confident...as i am that game will be in the Ralph nest weekend. Was supposed to be father -son weekend starting today, have just confirmed all my plans now for next week. Better be ready or i will be looking for new man parts as my wife will have them in a jar Edited November 21, 2014 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) There is nothing we don't already know in this story. In fact it's the writer making the leap that RWS won't be ready in time. I assume the warm weather will melt a lot of the snow this week. It may not be only this weekend's game that is affected by the storm. Brandon left open the possibility that The Ralph wouldn't be ready Nov. 30 when the Bills are scheduled to host the Cleveland Browns. It's going to be a full-on effort by our stadium operations crew and everyone involved here at One Bills Drive to get the facility ready for next week, he said. There's an enormous amount of snow to be removed and there's a lot of work to be done. It's also possible the Bills could be forced to move their entire operations next week to a facility where they could practice. That's something that's also in play, Brandon said. Not only with preparation for this game and playing this game, but obviously what may be in play for next week. That could be a potential to go off site and practice somewhere if our facility is just not operational. http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/nfl-bumps-bills-game-to-monday-night-in-detroit-20141120 Edited November 21, 2014 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 my neighborhood has drainage too - but it would be under water if I had that much snow im not pretending to know the specifics of the drainage at the Ralph...i just know that that a stadium full of snow melting probably is a lot for any drainage system to handle im pretty sure a 197 acre piece of land that has been built to withstand even the harshest of weather has a drainage system that is capable of handling a lot of snow and water. In fact, the drainage system was updated in the remodel just last year. So I guess well see how it all does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 the Cleveland game will NOT be played at the ralph. again, there will be no security and limited dump trucks to remove snow from the ralph until all streets have been cleared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 my neighborhood has drainage too - but it would be under water if I had that much snow im not pretending to know the specifics of the drainage at the Ralph...i just know that that a stadium full of snow melting probably is a lot for any drainage system to handle 6' of snow isn't going to melt in a week and once it starts, it's going to be even more difficult to shovel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 6' of snow isn't going to melt in a week and once it starts, it's going to be even more difficult to shovel. freeze, thaw, freeze, thaw, freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 the Cleveland game will NOT be played at the ralph. again, there will be no security and limited dump trucks to remove snow from the ralph until all streets have been cleared. You cannot definitively say that. The team could round up all kinds of private assistance this coming week to get the stadium and lots cleared out enough to host a game. It does not have to be pristine conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 the Cleveland game will NOT be played at the ralph. again, there will be no security and limited dump trucks to remove snow from the ralph until all streets have been cleared. This may indeed prove to be the case, but it's too early to make that declaration. It'll certainly take a monumental effort to make RWS safe and ready for gameday on 11/30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Do you think the Cleveland game will be televised on DirecTV?? Im so angry about it not being scheduled already. Thanks Obama. (Don't go PPP in replies it's just a throwaway joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 the Cleveland game will NOT be played at the ralph. again, there will be no security and limited dump trucks to remove snow from the ralph until all streets have been cleared. I would be willing to have a friendly wager on that..i believe it will 100% be played there. Just my gut. Loser donates $50 to a charity that is helping folks that need it in the Southtowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Wow that's a lot of snow. I don't think they'll ever be able to play there again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Im so angry about it not being scheduled already. Thanks Obama. (Don't go PPP in replies it's just a throwaway joke) We demand an answer. Call your Governor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 it's going to be 40 degrees tomorrow and 60 by tuesday. snow melts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 im pretty sure a 197 acre piece of land that has been built to withstand even the harshest of weather has a drainage system that is capable of handling a lot of snow and water. In fact, the drainage system was updated in the remodel just last year. So I guess well see how it all does. 8 feet of snow in a quick melt plus rain is pretty much unprecedented as far as "harsh weather", so as you said, we'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 You cannot definitively say that. The team could round up all kinds of private assistance this coming week to get the stadium and lots cleared out enough to host a game. It does not have to be pristine conditions. No, but emergency services not being available would stop it as well. I'm sure the Bills will do all that they can, but I strongly believe alternate sites as backups are already being evaluated and lined up just in case. If getting the Ralph ready to host a game was a priority for the area I imagine they could make it happen. But it is not, in fact it is not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I took vacation time next week and planned doing a buffalo tour and specifically for the bills-browns game. Man it would be unfortunate if that game wasn't played. I hope everyone is alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Buffalo Bills @buffalobills 5s6 seconds ago UPDATE: Snow shovelers are not needed at Ralph Wilson Stadium at this time. Further information will be communicated next week. #BuffaloSnow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Maybe i am missing something here. The game is in 9 days(including today) Seems to me they have unprecedented numbers/ pieces of equipment in place to do snow removal The affected area is not the whole of WNY, it is just the snowbelt. Man, those people got killed, but not like other storms where the whole Metro is socked in and needs cleared. More equipment/less ground to cover, but extreme amounts of snow The weather is going to cooperate at least in the short term. I guess i am lost how you think they will still be dealing with an emergency situation even next week (barring large problems from the melt) To me, seems like the not only the Bills and the NFL, but Erie County and the whole Buffalo area is going to want this game in Buffalo...especially with all the folks home for Thanksgiving. Maybe i am just way off Edited November 21, 2014 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Maybe i am missing something here. The game is in 9 days(including today) Seems to me they have unprecedented numbers/ pieces of equipment in place to do snow removal The affected area is not the whole of WNY, it is just the snowbelt. Man, those people got killed, but not like other storms where the whole Metro is socked in and needs cleared. More equipment/less ground to cover, but extreme amounts of snow The weather is going to cooperate at least in the short term. I guess i am lost how you think they will still be dealing with an emergency situation even next week (barring large problems from the melt) To me, seems like the not only the Bills and the NFL, but Erie County and the whole Buffalo area is going to want this game in Buffalo...especially with all the folks home for Thanksgiving. Maybe i am just way off I do not think you are way off, I'm sure the Bills would love to host the game. I'm sure the county would as well. But there are going to be significant flooding issues associated with the melt. That is just an enormous amount of snow that should start melting quickly once the air temperature rises. And as it melts, the snow still left gets saturated with water and gets VERY heavy which will cause even more problems. Plus emergency services peeps have been busting their collective ass, and will continue to do so this week. Will the county force them to work something so unnecessary as a football game after all this? Still too early to tell how it will play out. I don't think it's a slam dunk either way at this point. Edited November 21, 2014 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 the Cleveland game will NOT be played at the ralph. again, there will be no security and limited dump trucks to remove snow from the ralph until all streets have been cleared. The Bills are responsible for snow removal and could hire dump trucks; the county wouldn't be involved at all. Not living up there anymore, I am basing this opinion on the pictures, news reports, forecast, and resilience of WNYers: I don't believe that, from an emergency response standpoint, the county would have a reason to withhold sheriff's deputies from a Bills game nine days from now. I don't want to issue any proclamations, but I will be very surprised if they don't play the browns at the RWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I do not think you are way off, I'm sure the Bills would love to host the game. I'm sure the county would as well. But there are going to be significant flooding issues associated with the melt. That is just an enormous amount of snow that should start melting quickly once the air temperature rises. Plus emergency services peeps have been busting their collective ass, and will continue to do so this week. Will the county force them to work something so unnecessary as a football game after all this? Still too early to tell how it will play out. I don't think it's a slam dunk either way at this point. Great points on the emergency workers...those folks have got to be just exhausted and in need of a weeks sleep at this point. Or as CBF would say....just 7 more sleeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 It is my thought - hope - that the a Bills will do everything in their power to have the stadium in good enough shape to play the game next week if for no other reason that they are likely losing millions from this week's being moved as it is. If the forecast holds up they should be able to get it done with a ton of effort. It may not be pretty but it should get done. Unless of course Bulldog on WGR finds a way to tie the Bills shoveling out their stadium as somehow taking away resources from poor elderly people snowed in their homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 it's going to be 40 degrees tomorrow and 60 by tuesday. snow melts And in the low 30s/High 20s for the rest of the week. You've mentioned that "snow melts" in multiple threads now. Do you think you're the only one who knows that? Again, this is 440 MILLION POUNDS of snow. One 55 degree day won't melt that. In fact, If it did, they'd be straight !@#$ed. Worse, some of it WILL melt. Then, and buckle your seatbelt because this is some real life !@#$ing science headed your way, it will freeze again, on top of the remaining 3-4 feet. This isn't your standard snow storm. And it's not goin to be spring next week. One day, with a high of 55 (meaning it will likely be over 50 for 4 hours max) is likely the worst thing that can happen right now. If they don't remove the snow, it will become a 3 foot layer of snow with three inches of solid ice on top. But please keep posting how "it will just melt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Do you think the Cleveland game will be televised on DirecTV?? Only if it is on Sunday-- they call it Sunday Ticket for a reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) And in the low 30s/High 20s for the rest of the week. You've mentioned that "snow melts" in multiple threads now. Do you think you're the only one who knows that? Again, this is 440 MILLION POUNDS of snow. One 55 degree day won't melt that. In fact, If it did, they'd be straight !@#$ed. Worse, some of it WILL melt. Then, and buckle your seatbelt because this is some real life !@#$ing science headed your way, it will freeze again, on top of the remaining 3-4 feet. This isn't your standard snow storm. And it's not goin to be spring next week. One day, with a high of 55 (meaning it will likely be over 50 for 4 hours max) is likely the worst thing that can happen right now. If they don't remove the snow, it will become a 3 foot layer of snow with three inches of solid ice on top. But please keep posting how "it will just melt." I did? Link me. I only posted it once. But apparently you are the forum police so I'm sorry if you think I posted it in multiple threads but you are mistaken. And this is Buffalo, we are used to snow storms. Everything will be back to normal by Tuesday. To think next week's game won't happen is hard to believe Edited November 21, 2014 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I heard that the snow is up as high as the crossbar on the field goal posts. Any pics out there showing this? CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I did? Link me. I only posted it once. But apparently you are the forum police so I'm sorry if you think I posted it in multiple threads but you are mistaken. And this is Buffalo, we are used to snow storms. Everything will be back to normal by Tuesday. To think next week's game won't happen is hard to believe http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/173418-how-much-of-a-hometown-crowd-can-we-expect-in-the-motor-city/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Pittsburgh's Snow Dragon headed to Buffalo to help after massive snowfall: http://www.wtae.com/...4#ixzz3JjNCJrlN The truck is made to convert 20 to 25 dump truckloads of snow into water that is then filtered and released into a catch basin, said Chuck Lantzman, owner of the North Side-based Snow and Ice Management Company. "To get started, we put 1,500 gallons of water," said Lantzman. He said a burner then heats the water to 140 degrees before it is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Pittsburgh's Snow Dragon headed to Buffalo to help after massive snowfall: http://www.wtae.com/...4#ixzz3JjNCJrlN snazzzzy. Thanks Pitts! This was the IOU from breaking Sammy's ribs in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 8 feet of snow in a quick melt plus rain is pretty much unprecedented as far as "harsh weather", so as you said, we'll see what happens. Not really. Happens in Alaska every year. Snow up here doesn't melt for months because the temps never get above freezing. It just keeps piling up. The snow removal snow gets piled into mountains that last into July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) I heard that the snow is up as high as the crossbar on the field goal posts. Any pics out there showing this? CBF Oh and that was before the latest couple feet Edited November 21, 2014 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Video: Ralph Wilson Stadium Snow (1:34) Take a look inside and out of Ralph Wilson Stadium after the record snow storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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