BillsFan130 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Chances are new England and Denver are going to win there divisions. Bills if they want to be serious about making the playoffs have to win games like this against san diego because the chargers most likely will be right in the wild card hunt and they officially have the tie breaker on us. Got a bad feeling this is going to come back to haunt us but I hope im wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Bob Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a feeling it isn't going to matter. This team is still soft. They are weak mentally...came out flat with no intensity. How could that be? That were 2-0 with a chance to make a statement against a good team, but not a scary one. This wasn't one of the great offenses of NE from a few years ago. The chargers didn't really do anything special. They were on their 3rd RB. How many screen passes did we have nobody within 20 yards? Run, run, incomplete all day. Eventually teams are going to realize that we run it up the middle on every first down and most second downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 A valid point. Obviously would trade the Chicago win for this one in a heartbeat....but you are going to drop some games against good teams. SD will too. If we miss on a tiebreaker I think it'd be easier to stomach head to head than the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 its true what your saying. Im being a little too optimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC2002 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a feeling it isn't going to matter. This team is still soft. They are weak mentally...came out flat with no intensity. How could that be? That were 2-0 with a chance to make a statement against a good team, but not a scary one. This wasn't one of the great offenses of NE from a few years ago. The chargers didn't really do anything special. They were on their 3rd RB. How many screen passes did we have nobody within 20 yards? Run, run, incomplete all day. Eventually teams are going to realize that we run it up the middle on every first down and most second downs. How good are they that they can not show up and still hold a NFL team to 20 points ? The Chargers 13 points at halftime this game was winnable the offense generated nothing in the first half and we are probably near the bottom of the league in passing now and the NFL is now a passing league . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a feeling that if we win next week we will feel good again The season is a marathon not a sprint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Bob Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 How good are they that they can not show up and still hold a NFL team to 20 points ? The Chargers 13 points at halftime this game was winnable the offense generated nothing in the first half and we are probably near the bottom of the league in passing now and the NFL is now a passing league . My statement was more of a general statement about the whole team being soft. The defense didn't allow a crazy amount of points, but they couldn't get off the field for most of the game and their receivers were wide open all day. Simple screen passes going for 15-20 yards, rivers running for 9 on third down, etc. The offense was more pathetic though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a feeling that if we win next week we will feel good again The season is a marathon not a sprint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC2002 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 My statement was more of a general statement about the whole team being soft. The defense didn't allow a crazy amount of points, but they couldn't get off the field for most of the game and their receivers were wide open all day. Simple screen passes going for 15-20 yards, rivers running for 9 on third down, etc. The offense was more pathetic though. The defense gave us 5 possessions in the 4th quarter alone in a 2 score game at home . they held the Chargers to 20 points The time of possession Chargers 31:34 Bills 28:26 The Chargers were able to pick up some big chunk plays but ultimately had 336 total yards The defense was more than enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Bob Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The defense gave us 5 possessions in the 4th quarter alone in a 2 score game at home . they held the Chargers to 20 points The time of possession Chargers 31:34 Bills 28:26 The Chargers were able to pick up some big chunk plays but ultimately had 336 total yards The defense was more than enough. Ok, you win. The defense was great today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Ok, you win. The defense was great today. He's right. Saying this defense is soft is borderline ridiculous. The offense needs to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Bob Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 He's right. Saying this defense is soft is borderline ridiculous. The offense needs to step up. Ok, you win too. It's great. Somewhere you guys seem to think I am blaming the defense for the loss, the offense was terrible. I thought the defense was soft today. It was nowhere near as aggressive as what I saw the last 2 weeks. But, you both convinced me otherwise. It was lights out all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a feeling it isn't going to matter. This team is still soft. They are weak mentally...came out flat with no intensity. How could that be? That were 2-0 with a chance to make a statement against a good team, but not a scary one. This wasn't one of the great offenses of NE from a few years ago. The chargers didn't really do anything special. They were on their 3rd RB. How many screen passes did we have nobody within 20 yards? Run, run, incomplete all day. Eventually teams are going to realize that we run it up the middle on every first down and most second downs. AgreedI was saying to some other fans this team had good intensity week one and two. Today they looked flat. Until they play with fire consistently every week they will do nothing.......again. Disappointing... let's see how/if they bounce back next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 It's a bad loss because we looked so bad doing it. Our Pass D looked weak. Our entire offense looked weak. And we were undisciplined - being flagged for over 100 yards in infractions yet again. If it was a hard-fought loss in OT, we could still feel good being 2-1. But today we didn't look like a 2-1 team, nor did we look like a team that would compete in the AFCE. Let's hope we look like a different team next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) What makes it tough for me is even with Rivers playing as well as he did it was still a winnable game but the offense and mainly EJ couldn't do jack against an average defense EJ and the offense looked a lot like what we saw in the preseason today didn't they? Was the big gameplan on offense today really the pistol? Why not just line up under center and run from the I vs team giving up 5.6 instead of the gimmick BS For the record the Chargers only have the tie breaker against the Bills if the tie breaker is just between them but if other teams are involved head to head it won't matter Edited September 22, 2014 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The defense gave us 5 possessions in the 4th quarter alone in a 2 score game at home . they held the Chargers to 20 points The time of possession Chargers 31:34 Bills 28:26 The Chargers were able to pick up some big chunk plays but ultimately had 336 total yards The defense was more than enough. add to that the numerous 3 and outs, they were on the field a ton today. They played much better in the 2nd half, while the offense and EJ were still playing throw the ball 5 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Week. 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a feeling it isn't going to matter. This team is still soft. They are weak mentally.. It seems fairly clear you are weak mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I think this quarterback is gonna be tough to stomach this season. He just doesn't see the whole field. It has nothing to do with reading a defense. Although that's a problem too. He is missing wide open receivers. I supported the draft pick. Now I'm not so sure. This defense is gonna win us some games. This quarterback, just like today, is gonna have us lose some games. I don't know what to make of all of it except that I think our coaching on offense needs work. I think half a dozen teams in this league could have EJ and win. Our staff doesn't know how to scheme around his shortcomings. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Honestly, I'd settle for a baby step this season.... just win 8 games. The playoffs still seem like an eternity away when you look at our QB play and offensive scheme in comparison to other playoff contending teams. I'm not saying EJ can't get better, he can. I'm not saying Hackett can suddenly look competent, well maybe he can. But, right now... they're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The AFCE isn't that strong of a division, our best bet for the playoffs is through New England, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a feeling that if we win next week we will feel good again The season is a marathon not a sprint +1 for the voice of reason! The Bills lost to a very good SD team today. Now if the Bills lose to Noodle-arm interception machine Fitzpatrick next week, then there may be some cause for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The primary reason this is a tough loss is that it exemplfied how erratic Manuel continues to be. It's a serious concern because you can't teach accuracy. In this regard, Rivers really showed him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Bob Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 It seems fairly clear you are weak mentally. And the point of this comment was? Oh right because when people disagree with my opinions, they insult me. Gotcha. Thanks big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) The defense gave us 5 possessions in the 4th quarter alone in a 2 score game at home . they held the Chargers to 20 points The time of possession Chargers 31:34 Bills 28:26 The Chargers were able to pick up some big chunk plays but ultimately had 336 total yards The defense was more than enough. The defense is supposed to be our strong point. They didn't look it. The Chargers front four looked better than ours today. It's like it flip flopped. Chargers weak O-line performed better against our top D line, and our O-line did crappy against the Chargers weak D line. It was ridiculous. Where were our blitzes? Where were our turnovers? Why did Rivers have all day to wait for receivers? Why was it 4 on 5 on the line all day long? Yeah come out at the half and let Rivers do an 8 minute drive to put them up by 3 scores. Yeah that was a real game changer/motivator. This was a team loss. The offense folded to an iffy defense, and the defense folded to an iffy o-line. Edited September 22, 2014 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 TBD Average Fan So far this season to date: Week1 Week2 Week3 Come on guys! We gt beat by a very good team. And we held them to a manageable score but they have a great D! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 SD is proving to be an elite NFL team and, with some offensive production, we had a chance to beat them. This would have been a 30 pt blow out in the Gailey / Wannstache era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a feeling it isn't going to matter. This team is still soft. They are weak mentally...came out flat with no intensity. How could that be? That were 2-0 with a chance to make a statement against a good team, but not a scary one. This wasn't one of the great offenses of NE from a few years ago. The chargers didn't really do anything special. They were on their 3rd RB. How many screen passes did we have nobody within 20 yards? Run, run, incomplete all day. Eventually teams are going to realize that we run it up the middle on every first down and most second downs. This is the same Chargers team that dominated Seattle last week. They are a good team. The Bills did not play well yesterday and when you play poorly against a good team, you generally get beat. Now let's see how they respond and if they can bounce back. If they can, great, if not, it may be another long season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 its only tough because you felt the Bills should have won? The Chargers were the better team. Lets move on to Houston ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a feeling that if we win next week we will feel good again The season is a marathon not a sprint 16 games in 17 weeks ... the NFL season is a sprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) The primary reason this is a tough loss is that it exemplfied how erratic Manuel continues to be. It's a serious concern because you can't teach accuracy. In this regard, Rivers really showed him up. Yeah this is where I am at. As bad as he played EJ needed to make a few give me plays that any NFL QB should be able to make in his sleep for the Bills to have a serious chance of winning. The sideline throw to Watkins where he had about 5 steps on the defender. Of course EJ throws 10 yards over his head(into the wind mind you) & the crossing pattern to woods where there wasn't a defender within 10 yards of him @ the 50. He hits woods in stride there instead of throwing it a second or 2 too early & 5 yards behind him. He completes those 2 passes which were easy passes to complete & the Bills probably win. That is not asking too much of your QB. Although, there may have been a penalty on the Bills on the Watkins throw. Can't really remember, I got pretty f*cked up at the game yesterday. Also, why would Marrone punt it when your on the SD 45 yard line down 2 scores & they could of took the offsides penalty & went for a 4th & 1. Instead they took the holding penalty & SD took over at the 10 yard line. That is a nobrainer, you go for it all day long when your down 2 scores in the 2nd half. & of course Rivers took them on an 8 minute drive. Edited September 22, 2014 by Gordio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The reason this is a tough loss? It's simple. We didn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonprophet Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Ok, you win too. It's great. Somewhere you guys seem to think I am blaming the defense for the loss, the offense was terrible. I thought the defense was soft today. It was nowhere near as aggressive as what I saw the last 2 weeks. But, you both convinced me otherwise. It was lights out all day. The defensive strategy was 1) Shut down the running game. 2) Contain Antonio Gates. They did both but, unfortunately, the Chargers offense is multidimensional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Chances are new England and Denver are going to win there divisions. Bills if they want to be serious about making the playoffs have to win games like this against san diego because the chargers most likely will be right in the wild card hunt and they officially have the tie breaker on us. Got a bad feeling this is going to come back to haunt us but I hope im wrong I'm not convinced NE is going to win the AFCE based on what they've shown thus far. Ceding the division title to them as a foregone conclusion based on previous years is not warranted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 NE and the Jets will decide the division again. The Bills are a bad team posing as a mediocre team again. Miami is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 NE and the Jets will decide the division again. The Bills are a bad team posing as a mediocre team again. Miami is terrible. Do you know how many games have been won with a team being 10 points with 10 minutes left in the game? A LOT, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Well if this team does not get to 8 wins (at least) this entire coaching staff and QB are gone anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a feeling that if we win next week we will feel good again The season is a marathon not a sprint I'm not convinced NE is going to win the AFCE based on what they've shown thus far. Ceding the division title to them as a foregone conclusion based on previous years is not warranted. Pats did not look good against Oakland yesterday, at all... they only won because Oakland is that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBuffalo Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have a feeling that if we win next week we will feel good again The season is a marathon not a sprint I absolutely love this! If we win next week we will feel good again....,outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobshaw81 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 The reason why this is a tough loss for me was that I just watched Trent Edwards play Qb for us coached by Dick Jauron. I saw this game a few years ago with the same exact outcome. Teams stack the box on us, blitz us, take the run game away, make us one dimensional and dare EJ to make a play. Until he makes a play we will be doomed. He is not accurate at all, cannot read defenses, and has a very strong conservative mindset. Very concerning. We can't rely on defense and special teams chipping in every game in order to be a good team. I think our D has played well this season. Vanilla, but solid giving our offenses many chances to win or keep us in the game. We won't see as many sacks and ints as last year, but we will be better vs the run and give up less big plays. Offensively we are too predictable and plain. We need another type of offensive other then the read/option. Ej cant read. I'd like to see him under center with rollouts, playaction, I form or 2 TE sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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