Solomon Grundy Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Need for the interior of line to be more physical, dominant consistently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I am still certain there will be a thread saying we should move him to guard for to RT. Christ! This guy is an elite LT and DW needs to lock him up pronto! Agreed. Pay him in year 3 so we don't lose him with nice guaranteed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'll take the win for sure, but line play was not good. Bears D-line isn't very good either. We'll see how they do as the season progresses. There is a lot of room for improvement and I don't doubt that they can improve as these guys play more together. Pears looked really out of place though. I hope the rookies get better and can step in at guard... I agree completely--at least with the statement there is a lot of room for improvement. And I also hope, and expect, that will happen as they get more time together. Let's just hope they stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 They were far from perfect, but also far better than they were in preseason. 193 yards rushing and only 1 sack. Stats don't tell the entire story, but they aren't meaningless either. Considering this was the first (or perhaps second) game with this particular lineup (and for one player, his first NFL game) I'd say they acquitted themselves pretty well. Good post. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 @ChrisTrapasso: Allen was @PFF's lowest-rated Bears defender. Played 54 snaps. One QB hurry. Glenn essentially shut him completely out of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Cordy Glenn is elite. not bad for a Guard :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstealer Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 A couple holds, Pears missed a block on a screen, but overall much better. Cordy will be in the discussion of best LTs by seasons end. It's great we have to nit-pick our O-line play. Hope it stays this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso 1m Seantrel Henderson was #Bills 2nd lowest-rated O player per @PFF. -3.3. Held his own in debut. 1 sack/1 hit/2 hurries. Adequate run-blocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Glenn is a dominant LT. If anyone on TSW ever again suggests he be moved to guard, it should lead to an immediate banning. @ChrisTrapasso Allen was @PFF's lowest-rated Bears defender. Played 54 snaps. One QB hurry. Glenn essentially shut him completely out of the game. Edited September 8, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso 1m RG Erik Pears continues to be weak-link on #Bills OL. -4.4 @PFF grade. Always a solid pass-blocker, but lost as run-blocker. Held true v CHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Any OLineman that you can't remember their name being called most likely had at least a decent game. Aside from Glenn getting beat early, I don't remember much of him. And the hole on Dixon's run was about as big as the Red Sea opening up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso 7m Re-watched #Bills game last night & his morning. LG Chris Williams wasn't fantastic, but not anywhere near a Colin Brown/Legursky liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Sweet creamery butter this is a frustrating thread. The team ran for 193 yards on 33 carries, which is a 5.8 YPC average, and allowed a single sack. The OL was great yesterday. They have a stiff test next week, so we'll see how they fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Glenn is a dominant LT. If anyone on TSW ever again suggests he be moved to guard, it should lead to an immediate banning. @ChrisTrapasso Allen was @PFF's lowest-rated Bears defender. Played 54 snaps. One QB hurry. Glenn essentially shut him completely out of the game. Toward the end of the game, I started wondering if Allen was even playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Toward the end of the game, I started wondering if Allen was even playing. It was an awesome performance by Glenn. Allen was a total non-factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso 7m Re-watched #Bills game last night & his morning. LG Chris Williams wasn't fantastic, but not anywhere near a Colin Brown/Legursky liability. That was my take too. I thought he did fine.... he is not a brilliant guard but I think he played at a league average level or thereabouts yesterday. If he does that all season he is a big upgrade on what we had last year and playing between Glenn and Wood should help (although Wood is worrying me a bit... didn't think he was good back end of last season and I don't think he played great yesterday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Solid outing. I was watching with a group of fans and I noted to another fan that EJ was getting plenty of time. Next play was a sack. Outside of that, it seemed like they played well. It didn't seem like they run blocked well, yet the stats say otherwise with almost 200 yds rushing. I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDRupp Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 They did well yesterday. The heavily slanted mix towards run over pass indeed helped the pass blocking. I give them a B+ or A- for yesterday's work. For the Miami game the thing I am most concerned about is a Cameron Wake vs. Henderson matchup. Did you see some of the highlights of that guy blowing by the Pats RT?! Dude was shot out of a cannon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 For the Miami game the thing I am most concerned about is a Cameron Wake vs. Henderson matchup. Did you see some of the highlights of that guy blowing by the Pats RT?! Dude was shot out of a cannon! Big early test for Henderson for sure. He did pretty much neutralize JPP in the GIants pre-season game. Wake is better so will take a lot to keep him away from EJ. I think the OC will start by getting more help on Wake's side then see how Henderson is holding up (pun not intended). Henderson needs to be disciplined (no penalties) and not fall for stunts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 That was my take too. I thought he did fine.... he is not a brilliant guard but I think he played at a league average level or thereabouts yesterday. If he does that all season he is a big upgrade on what we had last year and playing between Glenn and Wood should help (although Wood is worrying me a bit... didn't think he was good back end of last season and I don't think he played great yesterday). Had a bad snap - EJ did OK with it but that is scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The screen plays are Horrible and we have the ball carriers to really make that work..... Gotta get that blocked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoretalk Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Overall they didn't run block that well, two big runs at the end of each half pushed the total up a bit plus EJs runs. Obviously they need to be better and hope they improve now that they finally have 5 that will be playing together after the merry go round in the preseason. I don't understand why this offense has so much trouble with screens When you have SLOW MOVING guards who are better suited to play tackle ... it just seems that our two guards just can't get out in front fast enough. I am willing to give this OL a little time since they didn't really play together in preseason. Some communications' issues to work out. Pass blocking was ok ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 When you have SLOW MOVING guards who are better suited to play tackle ... it just seems that our two guards just can't get out in front fast enough. I am willing to give this OL a little time since they didn't really play together in preseason. Some communications' issues to work out. Pass blocking was ok ... Actually.....for the most part your OT's are more athletic so they should be able to have more agility...... To me its all about timing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso 1m RG Erik Pears continues to be weak-link on #Bills OL. -4.4 @PFF grade. Always a solid pass-blocker, but lost as run-blocker. Held true v CHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Any discussion of grading pairs has to begin with Dolly Parton. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Any discussion of grading pairs has to begin with Dolly Parton. GO BILLS!!! Does Kate Upton not suit your taste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 They did well yesterday. The heavily slanted mix towards run over pass indeed helped the pass blocking. I give them a B+ or A- for yesterday's work. For the Miami game the thing I am most concerned about is a Cameron Wake vs. Henderson matchup. Did you see some of the highlights of that guy blowing by the Pats RT?! Dude was shot out of a cannon! EJ will need to work on hard counts and snapping the ball at different times to get Wake to jump/throw him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 At what point do we get to start thinking of Wood as a slightly above average center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 At what point do we get to start thinking of Wood as a slightly above average center? Good question. He is playing no better than that at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Sometimes I wonder if Hackett is the bigger problem. I'm convinced he's the bigger problem nearly every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Sweet creamery butter this is a frustrating thread. The team ran for 193 yards on 33 carries, which is a 5.8 YPC average, and allowed a single sack. The OL was great yesterday. They have a stiff test next week, so we'll see how they fare. The OL was good, not great. Pass blocking was good, but they need to step it up in the run game. The average would have been pretty low if it weren't for those two big runs. The guards blew up those screen plays by not blocking anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The OL was good, not great. Pass blocking was good, but they need to step it up in the run game. The average would have been pretty low if it weren't for those two big runs. The guards blew up those screen plays by not blocking anyone. I agree that they need to improve, especially in the screen game. That's an astute observation. I'm not sure I'm with you on the idea of taking away the two long runs, as this is part and parcel to Buffalo's approach in the run game. They have an enormous OL; one of the biggest in the NFL. Part of their game plan is to pound opposing Ds with the run, using their size to beat them up. It worked yesterday, as by the 4th Q Chicago's defense looked slow, tired, and beat. They were able to move the ball on the ground in the 4th, on the road, which is huge if you want to win games late in the season (as I'm sure you know). Just my 1 cent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 After the cluster you know what of last year, I was ok with the OL performance yesterday - especially given their lack of playing time together. The Bears D line is pretty good. It does not get any easier this week or against the Texans in a few weeks. Cameron Wake and JJ Watt are going to be a real tests. I expect that there will be some peaks and valleys, but the performance should get better as they continue to play together and become more cohesive as a unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) I agree that they need to improve, especially in the screen game. That's an astute observation. I'm not sure I'm with you on the idea of taking away the two long runs, as this is part and parcel to Buffalo's approach in the run game. They have an enormous OL; one of the biggest in the NFL. Part of their game plan is to pound opposing Ds with the run, using their size to beat them up. It worked yesterday, as by the 4th Q Chicago's defense looked slow, tired, and beat. They were able to move the ball on the ground in the 4th, on the road, which is huge if you want to win games late in the season (as I'm sure you know). Just my 1 cent. I'd like to see more push off the ball. Boogie Dixon was pretty good up the middle. Without those two runs the average is 3.5 yards per carry. With the biggest OL in the league I want MORE POWER! (Sorry Tool Time flashback) Edited September 8, 2014 by voodoo poonani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'd like to see more push off the ball. Boogie Dixon was pretty good up the middle. Without those two. Runs the average is 3.5 yards per carry. With the biggest OL in the league I want MORE POWER! (Sorry Tool Time flashback) That's fine, homey. But--for real--if you subtracted the top two runs from EVERY teams' performance, that's about the number you'd get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I was thrilled with yesterdays performance after that hot mess of a preseason! Hopefully they have time to gel and just get better all year. The guards are weaknesses it appears. Also, is the biggest OL in the league (or thereabouts) really made to run effective screens? CJ and Sammy should be very dangerous on screens. It seems our skill players don't entirely match our OL, but yesterday was still a pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 At what point do we get to start thinking of Wood as a slightly above average center? A long time ago from my perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 we had several well timed screen calls...set up for big gains and our lineman couldnt get their block.....they didnt this week but they will. we had several well timed screen calls...set up for big gains and our lineman couldnt get their block.....they didnt this week but they will. sorry John you made that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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