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Pandemic? What pandemic? Trump cares about people ha ha ha 

 

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President Trump said Wednesday he will continue trying to toss out all of the Affordable Care Act, even as some in his administration, including Attorney General William P. Barr, have privately argued parts of the law should be preserved amid a pandemic.

“We want to terminate health care under Obamacare,” Trump told reporters Wednesday, the last day for his administration to change its position in a Supreme Court case challenging the law. “Obamacare, we run it really well. . . . But running it great, it’s still lousy health care.”

While the president has said he will preserve some of the Affordable Care Act’s most popular provisions, including guaranteed coverage for preexisting medical conditions, he has not offered a plan to do so, and his administration’s legal position seeks to end all parts of the law, including those provisions.

Democrats, who view the fight over the Affordable Care Act as a winning election issue for them, denounced the president’s decision.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement that “the President’s insistence on doubling down on his senseless and cruel argument in court to destroy the ACA and every last one of its benefits and protections is unconscionable, particularly in the middle of a pandemic.”

Trump’s declaration caps months of debate within his administration about the best course of action, in which the stakes have only become greater now that the nation’s health-care system is struggling to deal with the spread of the coronavirus, which has killed more than 70,000Americans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-obamacare-supreme-court/2020/05/06/4a53ba54-8fe1-11ea-9e23-6914ee410a5f_story.html

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In looking up some Wuhan stories, I ran across this gem from the friggin Guardian.  This is your future, ACA

 

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In the UK, the waiting list for hospital treatment could soar to almost 10 million people by Christmas amid a huge backlog caused by coronavirus disrupting services, NHS leaders are warning.

Hospital bosses say that such a massive increase in England is a realistic prospect, given so many people have been unable to have surgery and crucial diagnostic tests in recent months while the NHS’s main priority has been minimising the damage from Covid-19.

The total number of people waiting to undergo a procedure in a hospital in England such as a hernia repair, cataract removal or hip or knee replacement stood at 4.4 million before the pandemic. It then fell to 4.2 million because in March GPs referred fewer patients for care to help hospitals tackle the pandemic and also because some patients were reluctant to risk getting infected by going into hospital.

However, the NHS Confederation estimates that it is likely to reach 9.8 million by the end of the year as a result of staff shortages and hospitals having to cap the number of patients they can treat at any one time because of strict physical distancing rules that reduce the number of beds available.

 

 

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This is what is happening here as well. Many hospitals and Elective Surgery and diagnostic procedure centers are shut down and have been for over three months. 
 

The backlog at those places is tremendous. 
 

I was able to see a knee specialist weeks ago. He ordered a CAT scan and a bone density scan at the local hospital. The center called me and said they’re not doing those tests now and would call me when they reopen. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Nanker said:

This is what is happening here as well. Many hospitals and Elective Surgery and diagnostic procedure centers are shut down and have been for over three months. 
 

The backlog at those places is tremendous. 
 

I was able to see a knee specialist weeks ago. He ordered a CAT scan and a bone density scan at the local hospital. The center called me and said they’re not doing those tests now and would call me when they reopen. 
 

 

One of my relatives in Rochester had his wife diagnosed with cancer in early March with a scheduled surgery in late March. That got pushed back to late May due to it being labeled as elective. Cancer removal became a choice.

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GOOD: CBO Won’t Hide Biden’s Government Takeover of Health Care.

 

It became a major scandal when Philadelphia-based researcher Rich Weinstein uncovered video of Jonathan Gruber, the architect of Obamacare, saying: “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.”

 

The quote became famous but was widely misunderstood; he was not referring to the penalty vs. tax question on which Chief Justice John Roberts would later uphold the law. The issue was whether the payment for a mandatory government insurance program should be scored as tax revenue – like Social Security or Medicare premiums – or considered private sector payments. This is crucial because a program scored as taxes and spending is transparently a government takeover, with potentially trillions of dollars shifted from the private sector to government.

 

There’s bad news for Joe Biden’s current plan. As Biden explained: “I’d bring back the individual mandate… and here’s the deal. We’re in a situation where if you provide an option for anybody who in fact wants to buy into Medicare for All, they can buy in.”

 

It’s hard to see how a mandate paired with a government plan could be scored by CBO as anything but taxes and spending.

 

 

The subterfuge tells you all you need to know about the efficacy of the proposal.

 
 
 
 
 
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On 6/10/2020 at 10:12 AM, Buffalo Timmy said:

One of my relatives in Rochester had his wife diagnosed with cancer in early March with a scheduled surgery in late March. That got pushed back to late May due to it being labeled as elective. Cancer removal became a choice.

Same thing happened with my mom, thanks Cuomo.

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2 hours ago, Hedge said:

 

 

we need less expensive health care costs. My insurance premiums are killing me. For real.  If I didn't have to buy auto home and health insurance I'd actually have a pretty decent savings account by now. 

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16 hours ago, ~Kostabi~ said:

we need less expensive health care costs. My insurance premiums are killing me. For real.  If I didn't have to buy auto home and health insurance I'd actually have a pretty decent savings account by now. 

 

And possibly a health savings account.  One of the utterly ridiculous aspects of Obamacare is the stipulation that only some people that choose certain plans can have tax deductible health savings accounts while the rest are not allowed by law to have them. 

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The Little Sister's of the Poor won again.  The Court has upheld the exemptions from the ACA's birth-control mandate for private employers with religious and moral objections.

This case is a challenge to the 2017 rules issued by the Trump administration that expanded the exemption from Affordable Care Act’s birth-control mandate, which generally requires employers to provide their female employees with health insurance that includes access to certain forms of contraceptives. The rules expanded the exemption to allow private employers with religious or moral objections to the mandate to opt out of providing coverage.
 

"We hold that the Departments had the authority to provide exemptions from the regulatory contraceptive requirements for employers with religious and conscientious objections."

 

The vote is 7-2. (Ginsburg has a dissenting opinion, joined by Sotomayor)


 

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45 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Quick reminder for those (continually) re-writing history.

 

 

 

 

 

Just a reminder......the far left that Biden will most certainly embrace when in office, said that Obamacare was going to fix things......never thought Obamacare fixed anything. 

 

The intent was to break the system completely and go Medicare for all.  People like this should never be given power:

 

 

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On 7/26/2020 at 2:45 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

Just refilled my wife's insulin last week.  Still the same price as it has been.  I appreciate the move but wish it wasn't just a symbolic move and wasn't sold with a lie attached (pennies a day before anyone asks).  Insulin cost is a very real issue for millions of Americans.  I won't call it a triumph though until there are actual verifiable results.

 

I did some digging and came across this:

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/viral-post-wrongly-ties-cost-drop-to-trumps-prescription-bill/

 

“the administration hasn’t implemented any of the executive orders the President issued in July,” she told us in an email. “There’s a voluntary insulin program that’s going to go into effect next year (which is to say that it isn’t in effect now), but it will only assist a subset of Medicare beneficiaries.”

 

That program begins Jan. 1, 2021, and will apply to “a subset of plans and enrollees, and not all insulin products have to be covered by all participating plans,” according to a Kaiser Family Foundation analysis. It does not affect costs for people who are uninsured or have other coverage.

 

The centers already provide a sliding scale based on income, though, so how much the costs would go down for those recipients depends on how the Department of Health and Human Services ultimately defines “low-income.”

 

and this:

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/insulin-pennies-a-day-trump/

 

What's True
Trump issued an executive order in July 2020 that was intended to lower the price of insulin for some Americans.

What's False
Rather than targeting all diabetic patients nationwide, the directive was written to help low-income diabetes patients of certain community clinics, who are uninsured or underinsured, to buy insulin at reduced prices. Also, no verifiable evidence suggests that the lower costs would amount to "pennies a day" for anyone.

What's Undetermined
Exactly how much money some diabetes patients could save on insulin daily as a result of the directive is unknown because the order did not outline specifics, including when or how it would be implemented.

 

So to recap, in regard to the claim in question, it was true to state Trump signed an executive order in July 2020 that aimed to make it easier for low-income diabetic patients to pay for insulin.

But nowhere in the federal document did the presidential administration explain its plan for implementing the change, nor the level to which insulin prices would drop. There was no proof that the order would allow any American to someday pay “pennies a day” on the protein hormone.

 

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18 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

At Last, Democrats Get Chance to Engineer Obamacare 2.0.

 

 

I was especially fond of the “at last” in the headline to a purportedly straight news item.

 

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/27/upshot/biden-health-plan-obamacare.html


great. My healthcare got far worse and more expensive after the first round. Can’t wait for the next ‘improvement’.

 

I was an idiot not to buy up all the health insurance and prescription drug companies stock at the time aca was passed. They’ve all skyrocketed. 

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Profiles in Courage it ain’t, but for Democrats, it will suffice. The removal of the individual-mandate penalty — the basis for the Supreme Court’s 2012 upholding of ObamaCare — didn’t get resolved in today’s 7-2 Supreme Court dismissal of the challenge. Instead, the court ruled that the plaintiffs lacked standing to bring the case at all.

 

Call it the easy way out:

 

A seven-justice majority ruled that the plaintiffs had not suffered the sort of direct injury that gave them standing to sue.

 

The court did not reach the larger issues in the case: whether the bulk of the sprawling 2010 health care law, President Barack Obama’s defining domestic legacy, could stand without a provision that initially required most Americans to obtain insurance or pay a penalty.

 

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/06/17/breaking-obamacare-wins-the-scotus-hat-trick-7-2-on-standing-n397383

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17 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Democrats/Liberals, as usual, were incredibly wrong.

 

FLASHBACK: Top 10 wrong takes from Dems back in October 2020 on Amy Coney Barrett and the ACA

 

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/06/17/flashback-top-10-wrong-takes-from-dems-back-in-october-2020-on-amy-coney-barrett-and-the-aca/


Think Trump and McConnell are pissed in their investments?

 

LMAO

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See, Obama is a lot like Jesus, he heals the sick 

 

23 Jesus went throughout Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, proclaiming the good news of the kingdom, and healing every disease and sickness among the people.

24 News about him spread all over Syria, and people brought to him all who were ill with various diseases, those suffering severe pain, the demon-possessed, those having seizures, and the paralyzed; and he healed them.

25 Large crowds from Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan followed him.

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U.S. Health Insurance Premiums Rise 7%, Near $24K for Family Coverage

 

The average annual cost of employer-sponsored health insurance premiums rose from $7,911 in 2022 to $8,435 in 2023 for coverage of single individuals and from $22,463 to $23,968 for family coverage, according to a new analysis by health research organization KFF based on survey results from a sample of U.S. firms.

This year’s higher premiums come after costs rose 1% for family coverage and 2% for individual coverage from 2021 to 2022

 

But its funny and predictable how the statist above is mentioning OBAMA and Jesus in the same sentence.

 

SMH

 

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1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said:

U.S. Health Insurance Premiums Rise 7%, Near $24K for Family Coverage

 

The average annual cost of employer-sponsored health insurance premiums rose from $7,911 in 2022 to $8,435 in 2023 for coverage of single individuals and from $22,463 to $23,968 for family coverage, according to a new analysis by health research organization KFF based on survey results from a sample of U.S. firms.

This year’s higher premiums come after costs rose 1% for family coverage and 2% for individual coverage from 2021 to 2022

 

But its funny and predictable how the statist above is mentioning OBAMA and Jesus in the same sentence.

 

SMH

 

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

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Mathew 13 

 13 Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.

14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “ ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.

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Mathew 13 

 13 Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.

14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “ ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.

Leviticus 19:11-13 English Standard Version 2016 (ESV)“You shall not steal; you shall not deal falsely; you shall not lie to one another. You shall not swear by my name falsely, and so profane the name of your God: I am the LORD.

 

https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/12/politifact-lie-of-the-year-if-you-like-your-healthcare-plan-you-can-keep-it-179521

 

It’s almost as if BHO was a false prophet. Sad!

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