Armchair GM Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Speculation or not...this would be the single greatest Free Agent acquisition in this franchises history. This is the kind of guy that INSTANTLY improves the play of EVERYONE around him. I'd offer him the contract he wants, my left nut and a couple fingers if that is what it would take. Anyone who says "no" is plain dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Lol that's what they said about haynesworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Lol that's what they said about haynesworth   Except Williams isn't a headcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Plus this is a chance to fix Marv's "other" 2006 1st Rd. pick he spent on a certain NC State DL. Remember when Marv alluded to the idea that McCargo was the reason why Williams was so dominant in college. He was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 its nice to dream but this will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The Bills can't express interest in Williams, or any other potential FA's at this time because A. The players aren't FA's yet and their teams could still re-sign them and B. The Players are not Free Agents yet and any word that you are interested in a potential FA could be considered Tampering and result in discipline from the league  I would be seriously concerned with him if the Texans just decide to give up on this guy after his injury last year. He was their #1 overall pick not to long ago and has been a big part of their defence for years. Flags should be raised if they have no problem letting a player like him just walk in FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN1978 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 When are we ever talked about with big free agents? Â He will be a target of ours if he hits the market. Trust me. Â OK I trust you. Don't fail me now ok? I put my trust in you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 LOL.  That made me laugh.  Anyways. YES - he can play Kelsays position, and most likely we would still draft a DE/OLB  Upshaw Barnett Sheppard Mario Williams Dareus Edwards  That front 7 would do filthy filthy things. I could play in the secondary.  Great line, you definitely made me laugh. A tough thing to do when your a Bill's fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 LOL.  That made me laugh.  Anyways. YES - he can play Kelsays position, and most likely we would still draft a DE/OLB  Upshaw Barnett Sheppard Mario Williams Dareus Edwards  That front 7 would do filthy filthy things. I could play in the secondary. DL - Dareus, Soliai, K. Williams LB - Mercilus, Sheppard, Barnett, M. Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I would be seriously concerned with him if the Texans just decide to give up on this guy after his injury last year. He was their #1 overall pick not to long ago and has been a big part of their defence for years. Flags should be raised if they have no problem letting a player like him just walk in FA Â Not necessarily. Brooks Reed, JJ Watt, Demeco Ryans and Brian Cushing make Williams expendable because they're all young and they are playing at a very high level. Signing MW to a huge deal may impair their ability to re-sign some of these guys when their contracts are up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Not necessarily. Brooks Reed, JJ Watt, Demeco Ryans and Brian Cushing make Williams expendable because they're all young and they are playing at a very high level. Signing MW to a huge deal may impair their ability to re-sign some of these guys when their contracts are up. Including Arian Foster, who is a restricted free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 maybe we need some input from nevergiveup??? Â Â Send up the batsignal...where are you Nevergiveup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The Bills can't express interest in Williams, or any other potential FA's at this time because A. The players aren't FA's yet and their teams could still re-sign them and B. The Players are not Free Agents yet and any word that you are interested in a potential FA could be considered Tampering and result in discipline from the league  I would be seriously concerned with him if the Texans just decide to give up on this guy after his injury last year. He was their #1 overall pick not to long ago and has been a big part of their defence for years. Flags should be raised if they have no problem letting a player like him just walk in FA I think the issue might be that the D played so well without him do they want to tie up a huge contract for one player. Another poster mentioned Foster is due a contract and Schaub is signed through 2012 so he is also due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 If he becomes a free agent (this article suggests that the texans wont franchise him)  My link  The Bills NEED to do everything they can to get this guy. Put him at DE next to DT's Dareus and Willams and another DE taken in round 1 or 2 of this years draft, and we'll have one of the best (if not the best) D line in football.  How often do you get a chance to grab a 26 year old who is a proven stud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) We gathered some information about Mario Williams in Buffalo. Â Would you guys want to throw the bank at him? Â Mario Williams in Buffalo? Â It would be nice but not for the kind of money he would demand . I think that there is a Mario Williams type player in the draft we just have to pick him & with the money we save by not getting Williams we could get a second player & possibly a 3rd for the money we would have spent on him ... Â Plus he's coming off an injury so (input whiner voice here) he could be another Merriman , he's only 26 !! Edited January 27, 2012 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerville Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Dreaming is free.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) We gathered some information about Mario Williams in Buffalo. Â Would you guys want to throw the bank at him? Â Mario Williams in Buffalo? Â Umm, yes... Â I'm creaming my pants at the thought of a line with Williams, Williams, Dareus, and Ingram/Couples in a 4-3 front. Edited January 27, 2012 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 If he becomes a free agent (this article suggests that the texans wont franchise him)  My link  The Bills NEED to do everything they can to get this guy. Put him at DE next to DT's Dareus and Willams and another DE taken in round 1 or 2 of this years draft, and we'll have one of the best (if not the best) D line in football.  How often do you get a chance to grab a 26 year old who is a proven stud? Seriously! not like I think we have a chance at him but this could/would be a franchise changer much like Reggie White to the Packers was. Before he went there people said many of the same things about them as they do the Bills. Small market, unable to keep/attract talent, losing/middling team, etc..  Everybody start Tebowing now and maybe we will have enough good karma by march to make this happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Dreaming is free.... Â First of all, would the man even want to come to Buffalo? Â Then, what makes you guys think this owner would pay a DE 15+ million a year when he wouldn't Jason Peters and others, last time i looked he wasn't Daniel Snyder. Â Polian had to talk this owner into keeping Bruce Smith when Denver came calling with 2 first round draft picks. He had to talk him into paying Kelly top dollar, new scoreboard, stadium upgrades, etc etc etc. Â The yes men in this org don't do the talking, they do the head bob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Speculation or not...this would be the single greatest Free Agent acquisition in this franchises history. This is the kind of guy that INSTANTLY improves the play of EVERYONE around him. I'd offer him the contract he wants, my left nut and a couple fingers if that is what it would take. Anyone who says "no" is plain dumb. Debatable. #1 is definitely Ted Washington. #2 is definitely Bryce Paup (he won AP Defensive Player of the Year, after all). #3 is...Fitzpatrick? Does Plan B free agency count? Then weren't Tasker and Kenneth Davis acquired via Plan B? If that's the case, I'd put Tasker #1 and Davis #4, but I don't think Plan B should count. If it's just true free agency, I'm drawing a blank on who I'd put above Fitz. I guess it would have to be either Spikes or Fletcher. Move Fitzy down to #5. Â Anyway, a Mario Williams signing would obviously depend on how he played as a Bill, but you'd have to start him out above Spikes - about the same age/experience, but Williams is a bigger star and better player at a more important position than Spikes was when we signed him. Assuming Williams didn't flame out quickly like Paup, he'd be right up there with Big Ted for the top spot. Â Of course, this is all just wishful thinking, but isn't that what the offseason is for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Debatable. #1 is definitely Ted Washington. #2 is definitely Bryce Paup (he won AP Defensive Player of the Year, after all). #3 is...Fitzpatrick? Does Plan B free agency count? Then weren't Tasker and Kenneth Davis acquired via Plan B? If that's the case, I'd put Tasker #1 and Davis #4, but I don't think Plan B should count. If it's just true free agency, I'm drawing a blank on who I'd put above Fitz. I guess it would have to be either Spikes or Fletcher. Move Fitzy down to #5. Â Anyway, a Mario Williams signing would obviously depend on how he played as a Bill, but you'd have to start him out above Spikes - about the same age/experience, but Williams is a bigger star and better player at a more important position than Spikes was when we signed him. Assuming Williams didn't flame out quickly like Paup, he'd be right up there with Big Ted for the top spot. Â Of course, this is all just wishful thinking, but isn't that what the offseason is for? Â Tasker (and Lofton for that matter) were straight waiver wire acquisitions. Got 'em each for the $100 transaction fee. Not bad. Â I believe Davis was a straight FA but I'm not sure if he was plan B or not. I'll have to check that out. Â EDIT: Turns out Davis was indeed part of the first Plan B FA class in 1989. Glad he chose Buffalo. Â GO BILLS!!! Edited January 27, 2012 by K-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Debatable. #1 is definitely Ted Washington. #2 is definitely Bryce Paup (he won AP Defensive Player of the Year, after all). #3 is...Fitzpatrick? Does Plan B free agency count? Then weren't Tasker and Kenneth Davis acquired via Plan B? If that's the case, I'd put Tasker #1 and Davis #4, but I don't think Plan B should count. If it's just true free agency, I'm drawing a blank on who I'd put above Fitz. I guess it would have to be either Spikes or Fletcher. Move Fitzy down to #5. Â Anyway, a Mario Williams signing would obviously depend on how he played as a Bill, but you'd have to start him out above Spikes - about the same age/experience, but Williams is a bigger star and better player at a more important position than Spikes was when we signed him. Assuming Williams didn't flame out quickly like Paup, he'd be right up there with Big Ted for the top spot. Â Of course, this is all just wishful thinking, but isn't that what the offseason is for? Â #3 would be Spikes,4 would be Adams,5 would Milloy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I just think it would be beyond awesome to have a defense with three starters named Williams on the field at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Debatable. #1 is definitely Ted Washington. #2 is definitely Bryce Paup (he won AP Defensive Player of the Year, after all). #3 is...Fitzpatrick? Does Plan B free agency count? Then weren't Tasker and Kenneth Davis acquired via Plan B? If that's the case, I'd put Tasker #1 and Davis #4, but I don't think Plan B should count. If it's just true free agency, I'm drawing a blank on who I'd put above Fitz. I guess it would have to be either Spikes or Fletcher. Move Fitzy down to #5. Â Anyway, a Mario Williams signing would obviously depend on how he played as a Bill, but you'd have to start him out above Spikes - about the same age/experience, but Williams is a bigger star and better player at a more important position than Spikes was when we signed him. Assuming Williams didn't flame out quickly like Paup, he'd be right up there with Big Ted for the top spot. Â Of course, this is all just wishful thinking, but isn't that what the offseason is for? Steve Christie was Plan B, maybe not top 5, but was a great acquisition. Â Fletcher, Spikes & Sam Adams were bigger pick-ups than Fitzpatrick. Â How about Bill Brooks & Quinn Early? Both were very underrated WR's for the Bills. Â Last but not least, how could we forget Chris Spielman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I just think it would be beyond awesome to have a defense with three starters named Williams on the field at the same time. Man, having Mario here would boost the season tix sales too. A big shiny new toy for Brandon. I just don't think the Bills can play poker with the competition if he hits free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) When are we ever talked about with big free agents? Â He will be a target of ours if he hits the market. Trust me. Â Â I enjoyed the article. But he will be a "target" of the Bills just like every other big name FA is a "target" of the Bills. They Bills will not make a serious push for them, and they will end up elsewhere. Bills=Pirates=no big FA moves. I endure this suffering on a yearly basis. Edited January 27, 2012 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Schoebel played 8 seasons plus 5 games and had 78 sacks. In roughly 4 and a half seasons worht of games Williams has 53. Schoebel was 6 4 262 pounds, Williams is 6 foot 6 290. I'd take Williams every day, and twice on sunday over Schoebel. When healthy, Williams is the best D lineman in the league. A guy thats 300 pounds, and athletic enough to play OLB. That's crazy. Schobel might be the most underrated Bill in the history of the franchise. When he played the QB had to get rid of the ball, when he was out the QB could stand back in the pocket, have a sandwich, & throw. We haven't faced a lot of hungry QBs since he left. Somehow I think last season would have been a whole lot different with him coming off the edge. Â Edit: this was supposed to be a reply to JTSP. Edited January 27, 2012 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Of course this is a dream but it's a nice one to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 We do like to collect Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Debatable. #1 is definitely Ted Washington. #2 is definitely Bryce Paup (he won AP Defensive Player of the Year, after all). #3 is...Fitzpatrick? Does Plan B free agency count? Then weren't Tasker and Kenneth Davis acquired via Plan B? If that's the case, I'd put Tasker #1 and Davis #4, but I don't think Plan B should count. If it's just true free agency, I'm drawing a blank on who I'd put above Fitz. I guess it would have to be either Spikes or Fletcher. Move Fitzy down to #5. Â Anyway, a Mario Williams signing would obviously depend on how he played as a Bill, but you'd have to start him out above Spikes - about the same age/experience, but Williams is a bigger star and better player at a more important position than Spikes was when we signed him. Assuming Williams didn't flame out quickly like Paup, he'd be right up there with Big Ted for the top spot. Â Of course, this is all just wishful thinking, but isn't that what the offseason is for? Â #3 would be Spikes,4 would be Adams,5 would Milloy London Fletcher and Chris Spielman were other excellent free agent acquisitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Schobel might be the most underrated Bill in the history of the franchise. When he played the QB had to get rid of the ball, when he was out the QB could stand back in the pocket, have a sandwich, & throw. We haven't faced a lot of hungry QBs since he left. Somehow I think last season would have been a whole lot different with him coming off the edge. Â Edit: this was supposed to be a reply to JTSP. I dont disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 London Fletcher and Chris Spielman were other excellent free agent acquisitions. Â Yea, you could easily flip guys names out at the last couple of spots on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Plus this is a chance to fix Marv's "other" 2006 1st Rd. pick he spent on a certain NC State DL. Remember when Marv alluded to the idea that McCargo was the reason why Williams was so dominant in college. He was wrong. Ouch that hurts  DL - Dareus, Soliai, K. Williams/Jay Howard 6'3" 305 and a good pass rusher LB - Mercilus Ingram, Sheppard, Barnett, M. Williams All better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I think people here forgot that Ralph Wilson is the owner of this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I think people here forgot that Ralph Wilson is the owner of this franchise. Just go in to every thread to remind us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Just go in to every thread to remind us. you're welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 you're welcome I wasn't thanking you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 There is NO WAY they don't tag him, NO WAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) I enjoyed the article. But he will be a "target" of the Bills just like every other big name FA is a "target" of the Bills. They Bills will not make a serious push for them, and they will end up elsewhere. Bills=Pirates=no big FA moves. I endure this suffering on a yearly basis.  these big name free agents are a target only on the front page of the paper   Bills have zero intent on actually coming up with the big bucks to sign these guys -  but talk is cheap and they can spin their aggressive pursuit of big name players to appease the fans -- all on a no-money-down approach    [ Edited January 28, 2012 by spartacus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiero Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Yes. I break the bank for him. I go 4-3 and put him at RE and we instantly are a better defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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