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Byrd had the best ball skills and its not incredibly close. It's a lot harder to say with Byrd and Edgerson as overall players because they werent actively keeping tackle and sack stats back then. Outside of those two my list would be: Nate Odomes Tre'Davious White Nate Clements Antoine Winfield Terrence McGee Stephon Gilmore Personally feel like Winfield really made his name as a Viking. 21 of his 27 career interceptions came as part of the Vikings. Also feel like Stephon GIlmore was grossly over rated as a Bill. Ball skills were good, but never felt like he added anything much in the run game. Tre had a good shot to be the best but injuries have destroyed his career especially the last three years. Likely he has played his last down for us.

I would give both. It's like the 2013 Nate Hackett offense reincarnated

Nate Clements goes for INT on 4th down instead of Knocking ball away. That last drive was the worst.

Beane’s “turn a blind eye” approach to WR2 ranks up there with heading into the season with Nate Peterman and rookie Josh Allen. Utterly stupid.

I read the free parts of Dunne's series and some of the quotes around here. Not going to pay for that. Dunne makes a point of putting in there early that he's been denied press credentials by the team, but hey no big deal. He speaks with 25 disgruntled ex colleagues and pretends it's investigative reporting? McDermott has no relationship with his offensive personnel. Mitch answered that and so did Josh Allen todayhttps://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-sean-mcdermott-relationship-nfl/article_116e7cea-99ee-11ee-8eee-db5236d329df.html For starters. I suspect all of Dunne's sources and incidents are from 2017 and 2019 and there was no investigation, just talking to ex-personnel, taking quotes and treating them as gospel. No opposing point of view. For those who paid for the articles, was there an opposing point of view, quotes or evidence? We already know some of the accusations are completely false. McDermott has changed a lot since the early years. Nate Peterman. Never going for it on fourth down. And this year taking more chances on defense late in the game. He still needs to develop that, but he's doing it. That for me means everything. Growth. He had never been a head coach before this job. He's made mistakes but I'm cutting him the slack. Especially since his current team is standing up for him.

I didn't trot out a random stat. It doesn't prove the opposite. 16 years. You used him as an example. That example is rare. He also got the job done. McD hasn't gotten the job done, so it isn't the same situation at all. Unless your only goal is to be a good regular season team. You want another example? Marty Schottenheimer. Coached KC for 10 years. 5-13 playoff record. Great in the regular season though (.613) Think they should have kept him longer or did that continuity not do them any good? None of the other Bills head coaches had an elite franchise QB on the level of Kelly or Allen. You think McD would be this successful if he still had QBs like Tyrod Taylor ,Nate Peterman, and EJ Manual, or is it more likely he is a 9 game win coach at best just like the rest of them? Sure, we have had some bad coaches but QB matters and none of those other coaches had one. Continuity would have done nothing without one. Even Doug Marrone with Nate Hackett at OC went 9-7. I asked you a question... where do you draw the line? How many years are you giving this guy to win a SB, or at least get to one? Instead of answering you just tried to puff chest like you are superior or something. The bolded is part of my point. Part of the reason he is there so long is he has proven he can do it and he proved it early on. Twice in his first 4 seasons. McD hasn't done that and is on year 7. You say that proves the opposite? I think not.

Since his arrival here his defense has very seldom ever closed out a game and has given up numerous leads. Their ranking is nothing more than window dressing as it points to a choke coach when it matters. My largest issue is that I have a serious probem with his statements to the media as we will learn from it. IMO hes a liar. Plus,l his teams have always been undisciplined and he doesnt learn squat. That includes 13 seconds. His calls of time outs for his defense 9 / 10 times results in disaster for Buffalo. I cannot belive as to what this man is thinking but Andy Reid saw it back in the day and trashed him right off the team. I also recall as that he just couldnt wait to get rid of Tyrod Taylor and push Mr. religion on his sleeve; Nate Peterman. This coach throws more people under the bus and I wonder if he really worships Satan as this team cant get a break. Please leave sir.

I'll give a serious response. It depends on what exactly you're looking for, but here's some of the sites/authors I like to read. I'll bold the ones that are behind paywalls. Reception Perception - https://receptionperception.com/; Particularly good for WRs and QBs (both for NFL players and draft prospects). The main thing I love is that they chart how often WRs run each route type, how successful they are on those routes, success rates against man vs. zone, etc. and they do similar charting for the QBs. Dane Brugler/The Athletic - He usually releases a handful of big boards with some blurbs about the prospects, but the real value is his extremely in depth draft guide (over 300 pages last year) breaking down pretty much every prospect with a pulse, even going back to their high school stats in a lot of cases. First Draft podcast with Mel Kiper & Field Yates - Can be found on any of the podcast platforms you may use and I believe they've begun televising/broadcasting on YouTube as well. I wouldn't say they go super in-depth on guys, but more just simple breakdowns of their top prospects, sleepers, WR big boards, etc. PFF Draft Guide - They have a lot of good NFL Draft content, but their draft guide is particularly good. In recent years, they've begun including their charting for WRs and QBs similar to Reception Perception and I always enjoy seeing the differences between their findings and the consensus (a couple notable examples this year: they have Jayden Daniels #22 on their big board, Keon Coleman #57, and Xavier Worthy #69). Derrik Klassen/Bleacher Report - Bleacher Report kinda hit the scene as poor quality analysis, but in recent years they've employed Matt Miller, Nate Tice, and now Derrik Klassen as their draft experts and they're all very good reads IMO. You can basically just google "(Insert Prospect Name) Scouting Report Bleacher Report" and get a pretty deep breakdown of any prospect you want. The Ringer NFL Draft Guide - https://nfldraft.theringer.com/; great interface and fairly detailed scouting reports on their top 50 or so prospects. They'll eventually add Ben Solak's QB charting as well, which is insanely deep. Daniel Jeremiah - I always enjoy reading his big boards, seeing who's moved up and down, etc. RAS.football - https://ras.football/ This is the guy that calculates every prospect's RAS rating (basically their athleticism score). It's the only thing on his website so no need to go there for anything else. Mockdraftable - https://www.mockdraftable.com/; database that basically shows how a given prospect performed at the Combine in one neat graphic. PlayerProfiler - https://www.playerprofiler.com/; has advanced stats for both NFL players and draft prospects. Famously the place where everyone gets prospect's breakout ages from. Matt Harmon YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@MattHarmonRP; This is the main guy from Reception Perception. 2 Minute Drill YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@2MinuteDrillFB/videos; quick two minute scouting reports of a ton of prospects Brett Kollman YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@BrettKollmann/videos; more in-depth film breakdowns of prospect Spreadsheet of videos to scout prospects yourself - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18a0E2eJPc14LmSOw6vJtvhryNWC-ojOffARtFlCV3xk/edit#gid=0 My WR Metrics Spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12pCgsJPa9X-jjNMOZ_exJTAEfxmZOeETzEm8SNkuXec/edit#gid=1244172747

5 of the 6 Cook runs were converted for 1st downs. The one that wasn't was a play Josh HAS to kill and get out of - the first 2nd and 2 where he goes ahead and runs a play that just runs Cook right into an overload. I understand the predictability point that Nate is trying to make. But James Cook was executing better than anyone else on offense.

Stop it. What's Nate Odoms up to these days?

So in no way am I even close to being a conspiracy theorist as many on this board are. Seems there are many posters here that if it was reported a player ate a doughnut with his left hand there's be an entire thread as to the deep meaning of that. For the most part don't believe much of all the Digg turmoil. However: On the 81 yard TD to Shakir, both Davis and Cook and even Allen who was way behind the play all were in the endzone congratulating him on the play. But no where was Diggs to be found. I rewound the play to verify if Diggs was on the field for the play and can confirm he was. Noticed on the TD earlier to Johnson, again Davis was right there, but no Diggs, though didn't replay that one to verify his being on the field. So does start to make me wonder if there is more to it. 4 receptions for 27 yards can't help him feel good about things. One the CBS pregame Nate B predicted he won't be back next year, though likely he had no idea on cap issues with him.

Nate is trying to be too smart here. What I get out of it is that if the offense is on schedule on first down, Cook is basically a cheat code. This is one of those things where a team says “we’ll keep calling it until you stop us”. We have certainly smashed our RB into a brick wall over and over again in past games. I reserve the right to criticize that too. Ha!

Get Nate Clements out of retirement while you at it.

Welcome one and all to Draft Day!! It's finally here. It has felt like a long time coming. As has become traditional now I publish a compendium of my draft content from the past few months on the day of the draft, or sometimes just before. Hopefully people find it useful to refer back to as the draft progresses but equally it serves as a useful archive for what I thought at the time when we look back. For example, when we have been talking about the relative strength of receiver classes this year it has been a useful cross reference back to other strong receiver group such as 2020 etc. It helps us remember where I was right and where I was wrong - and don't worry, I'm wrong plenty! I have graded 140 players this year and it is an interesting class. I think there is a small cluster of true elite guys at the top and then there is a real nice group of mid to late first round talent and that pattern continues through day 2. I don't think it is the deepest class though. Plenty has been made of the reduced number of underclassmen coming out and what you have this year is a ton of older prospects, especially on day 3, who might be at or close to their physical peak and have either had interesting journeys at the college level or have underachieved their expectations. That isn't to say some of those guys won't be productive NFL players, but I think it is going to be harder to find diamonds in the rough in this class. Most of them have been well polished and are not that shiny! Okay... onto business. Already published: My 2024 Draft Sleepers with an additional couple of added names My 2024 Quarterback evaluations My FINAL 2024 Mock Draft As ever the new content that I pull together for this thread is: A full list of my 21 first round grades; An analysis of my top 100; Positional top 5s. [Key: * denotes medical concern; ^ denotes potential off-field / behavioural concern] First Round Grades: 1. Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame 2. Marvin Harrison Jnr, WR, Ohio State 3. Malik Nabers, WR, LSU 4. Caleb Williams, QB, USC 5. Jer’Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois* 6. Rome Odunze, WR, Washington 7. Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo 8. Laiatu Latu, DE, UCLA* 9. Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama 10. Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State 11. Dallas Turner, DE, Alabama 12. Jared Verse, DE, Florida State 13. Byron Murphy, DT, Texas 14. Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina 15. Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson 16. Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa* 17. Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia* 18. Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina 19. Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona 20. Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia 21. Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama I also then have five 1st/2nd round borderline grades. They are: 22. Brian Thomas, WR, LSU*; 23. Troy Fautanu, OT, Washington; 24. Chop Robinson, DE, Penn State; 25. Taliese Fuage, OT, Oregon State; 26. Graham Barton, IOL, Duke. Analysis of the top 100: Here is the positional breakdown of my top 100:- Quarterback: 6 Running Back: 5 Tight End: 3 Wide Receiver: 20 Offensive Tackle: 12 Interior Offensive Line: 10 Total offensive players: 56 Interior Defensive Line: 9 Edge Rusher: 10 Linebacker: 4 Corner: 13 Safety: 8 Total defensive players: 44 Strengths and Weaknesses of the top 100: This is a strong offensive draft at the top - helped significantly by the fact that there is a really good crop of wide receivers that could, and most will, go in the first two days. There is also a really good oline group. That broadly breaks down to - offensive tackles early (8 of the 12 tackles in my top 100 are actually in my top 40) and interior offensive line later (only 2 of the 10 interior offensive linemen are in my top 40). Those groups and an interesting Quarterback class that has some ability but has some holes too make up for a draft that is weak at running back in terms of bona-fide RB1s at the NFL level and very weak at tight end (my third tight end in the top 100 just sneaks in at #97). Tight end classes seem to go in odd years. Last year was a decent group, this year was very thin - that probably means 2025 will be stronger again. In terms of defense, it's a strange class on many ways. I think the corner group is pretty solid. There are some clear tiers in there, the top 5 then a group of round two guys, then a group of scheme specific types that can go rounds 3 and 4. And the safety class while lacking a standout star has a lot of guys who I think will go between late 2nd and mid 4th and could well be good long term NFL starters. The defensive line group is had to get a handle on. I think the top two interior guys and the top 3 edge guys are pretty good. They are all legit first round talents. When you get beyond that though you get scheme specific very quickly. I've said multiple times that my group of 2nd round grades at the edge spot probably all want to play as a 3-4 outside backer who is almost exclusively in a 2 point stance. The third and fourth rounds are thin at the spot and again you are going to have them graded all over the place by teams because the scheme specificity for some these guys is pretty clear. Finally it isn't a good linebacker group. I think since I started doing this off the ball linebacker is the position that feels like it has had the most consistent drop off in the depth of quality players available in drafts. As college defenses get increasingly multiple finding guys you can plug into base defenses in the NFL at mike linebacker in particular is getting more difficult. Once you go beyond the top 100 to 120 it starts to thin out. Kinda the opposite of last year when the top of my board was pretty sparse through the first two rounds but then like a Christmas tree it thickened out lower down. This board looks a bit more top heavy but I think this is one of the better top 100s of recent years - and certainly my 100th ranked player is almost a full round higher than he was in 2023 in terms of grade. Positional Top 5s: (round I have them graded in parenthesis) Quarterback 1. Caleb Williams, USC (1st) 2. Drake Maye, North Carolina (1st) 3. Michael Penix Jnr*, Washington (2nd) 4. Jayden Daniels, LSU (2nd) 5. Bo Nix, Oregon (3rd) Running Back 1. Jonathan Brooks, Texas (2nd) 2. Trey Benson, Florida State (2nd) 3. Jaylen Wright, Tennessee (3rd) 4. MarShawn Lloyd, USC (3rd) 5. Blake Corum, Michigan (3rd) Wide Receiver 1. Marvin Harrison Jnr, Ohio State (1st) 2. Malik Nabers, LSU (1st) 3. Rome Odunze, Washington (1st) 4. Xavier Legette, South Carolina (1st) 5. Brian Thomas Jnr*, LSU (1st/2nd) Tight End 1. Brock Bowers, Georgia (1st) 2. Ja'Tavion Sanders, Texas (2nd) 3. Cade Stover, Ohio State (3rd) 4. Ben Sinnott, Kansas State (4th) 5. Theo Johnson, Penn State (4th) Offensive Tackle 1. Joe Alt, Notre Dame (1st) 2. Olu Fashanu, Penn State (1st) 3. Amarius Mims*, Georgia (1st) 4. Jordan Morgan, Arizona (1st) 5. Troy Fautanu, Washington (1st/2nd) Interior Offensive Line 1. Graham Barton, Duke (1st/2nd) 2. Jackson Powers-Johnson, Oregon (2nd) 3. Christian Haynes, UConn (2nd) 4. Zach Frazier, West Virginia (2nd) 5. Christian Mahogany, Boston College (3rd) Interior Defensive Line 1. Jer'Zhan Newton*, Illinois (1st) 2. Byron Murhpy, Texas (1st) 3. Braden Fiske, Florida State (2nd) 4. Kris Jenkins, Michigan (2nd) 5. T'Vondre Sweat^, Texas (2nd) EDGE 1. Laiatu Latu*, UCLA (1st) 2. Dallas Turner, Alabama (1st) 3. Jared Verse, Florida State (1st) 4. Chop Robinson, Penn State (1st/2nd) 5. Bralen Trice, Washington (2nd) Linebacker 1. Payton Wilson, North Carolina State (2nd) 2. Edgerrin Cooper, Texas A&M (2nd) 3. Jeremiah Trotter, Clemson (3rd) 4. Junior Colson, Michigan (3rd) 5. Jordan Magee, Temple (4th) Corner 1. Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo (1st) 2. Terrion Arnold, Alabama (1st) 3. Nate Wiggins, Clemson (1st) 4. Cooper DeJean, Iowa (1st) 5. Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama (1st) Safety 1. Tyler Nubin, Minnesota (2nd) 2. Calen Bullock, USC (2nd) 3. Jaden Hicks, Washington State (3rd) 4. Cole Bishop, Utah (3rd) 5. Javon Bullard, Georgia (3rd) Final thoughts I think in terms of the names that we can expect to come off the board tonight there are not going to be too many shocks. Possibly one or two offensive tackles or wide receivers that had been pegged more as day two types by many sneaking into round 1 or if you want a total shock Payton Wilson finding his way into the last half dozen picks, which I've seen nobody mock, wouldn't be a complete shock to me. Otherwise it is going to be a case of waiting to see where the runs start. We expect an early run on the three top wideouts and on quarterbacks but then the teens and early 20s could be an absolute glut of offensive tackles and corners. I will do my usual day by day de-briefs and will be interesting to see what the board looks like going into day two. Last year we saw the likes of Joey Porter and Will Levis still there only to be snapped up in the first couple of picks, and then thinking back to the 2020 draft where the wide receiver depth was arguably comparable Tee Higgins and Michael Pittman were the first two names called on the second day. Almost time for the talking and speculating to stop.... my mock needs its final touches. Then we are ready to roll!!

We also had Cheffers in Week 1 at the Jets and Week 1 in 2022 at the Rams! NFL Capsules Week 14: https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2023 Football Information/Capsules/Week 14 Capsules.pdf [scroll 3/4 way down] Carl Cheffers: 16h season as Referee Pos. No. Name Exp. 2022 Crew College Occupation R 51 Carl Cheffers 22 n/a California-Irvine Sales Manager U 22 Brandon Cruse 2 same South Dakota School of Mines & Technology Mangement Consultant DJ 63 Mike Carr 7 same Wisconsin Athletic Director LJ 87 Tom Eaton 4 Rogers Central Florida Fiscal Manager FJ 33 Nate Jones* 5 same Rutgers Firefighter/EMT SJ 103 Eugene Hall 10 same North Texas Federal Agent BJ 133 Martin Hankins Rookie n/a LSU Lamar County Circuit Clerk RO n/a Kevin Brown 5 same Purdue retired Air Traffic Controller RA n/a Karlton Derrick 2 same Stanford Financial Advisor *Nate Jones is a former NFL player. He was a CB for Dallas, Miami, Denver, and New England from 2004-2011. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JoneNa20.htm https://www.sportscasting.com/super-bowl-referee-travis-kelce-said-carl-cheffers-shouldnt-work-foot-locker/ "Travis Kelce Once Said Super Bowl Referee Carl Cheffers ‘Shouldn’t Even Be Able to Work at F***ing Foot Locker’' "In 2016, the year before the team drafted Mahomes, the Chiefs finished 12-4 and made the playoffs with Alex Smith at quarterback. In the Wild Card Round that season, the Chiefs played the Steelers in a close, hotly-contested matchup. The Chiefs went down 18-10 with under 10 minutes to go in the game. Smith then led a seven-minute, 15-play touchdown drive to get KC within two points with 2:43 left on the clock. Smith and company just needed a two-point conversion to tie the game, and they got it when the Chiefs QB found Demetrius Harris in the end zone. However, NFL referee Carl Cheffers (No. 51) threw a flag and called a controversial holding call on Chiefs left tackle Eric Fisher. The next attempt failed. Ben Roethlisberger got the ball back, the Steelers got a 1st-down, and Big Ben took three knees to end the game. After the game, Travis Kelce didn’t hold back. The then-budding star said if NFL referees “want to take over the game and make it their own platform, there’s nothing you can do about it.” Kelce vehemently asserted it wasn’t a hold on Fisher and then went on to crush Cheffers in a classic rant that could only have come from the outspoke tight end. “[We] just got out jugulars ripped out because ref felt bad for James Harrison falling on the ground,” Kelce fumed. “It’s ignorance. The ref, No. 51, shouldn’t even be able to wear a zebra jersey ever again. He shouldn’t even be able to work at f***ing Foot Locker.”' https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2023/01/31/super-bowl-referee-carl-cheffers-stats [limited free views] "Based on Carl Cheffers Stats, Expect Lots of Flags and the Under in Super Bowl LVII" "According to BetArizona.com, which was kind enough to send me some stats, Cheffers ranked first in total penalties called per game this season at 12.59. Cheffers also led all NFL refs in penalties called last season. He also was first in total yards in penalties given per game at 109.94. Cheffers and his crew (which will be different for the Super Bowl) also called 21 pass interferences this season, which ranked second among NFL refs."

Hi Everyone and a welcome to the TSW Mock Draft 3.0 sign-up thread. Mock 3.0 is 1 round with trades allowed. The Bills selection will be done by a survey of the BPA’s at the time. The decision on whether to trade up has been completed in multiple polls and depend upon how the board falls. If the Bills trade up, it will be for certain players and no poll will be created. The Draft will begin once all 32 owners have been found. 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(Please do not post in all caps or use different punctuation) · When you pick, please give a few sentence summary as to why you made the pick you did. The more commentary and ownership, the better the experience. Trades: · Trades must meet the trade chart value at a minimum · A team’s pick must be made within the 3 hour window. The pick window does not reset for trades (Trades must be agreed upon within the first 2 hours of being on the clock) · Trades must be agreed before gaining approval o Once trade is agreed upon by the two GMs, a message needs to be created between the two GM’s, Virgil, and Alphadawg7. The message needs to contain the trade and points value of picks. Once approved within that message, by either Virgil or Alpha, the trade and pick can be posted · The following players can be traded by their current teams, and only for a 1st round pick: o Tee Higgins, Brandon Aiyuk With that being said, below are the available teams Round 1 1- Chicago (3000) - HappyDays - Caleb Williams, QB, USC 2- Washington (2600) - mrags *Traded* Denver - TOBoy - Drake Maye, QB, UNC 3- New England (2200) - BuffaloBillyG - Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU 4- Arizona (1800) - GunnerBill - Marvin Harrison Jr, WR, Ohio St 5- LA Chargers (1700) - NeverOutNick - Rome Odunze, WR, Washington 6- NY Giants (1600) - JJguana - Malik Nabers, WR, LSU 7- Tennessee (1500) - Doc Brown - Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame 8- Atlanta (1400) - CNYfan - Dallas Turner, Edge, Alabama 9- Chicago (1350) - HappyDays *Traded* Washington - mrags - JJ McCarthy, QB, Michigan 10- NY Jets (1300) - TPS - Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia 11- Minnesota (1250) - H2o - Byron Murphy II, DT, Texas 12- Denver (1200) - TOboy *Traded* Washington - mrags *Traded* Bears - Happy Days - Laiatu Latu, Edge, UCLA 13- Las Vegas (1150) - NewEra - Michael Penix, QB, Washington 14- New Orleans (1100) - qwksilver - Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT Penn St 15- Indianapolis (1050) - BigdaddyinOrlando - Jared Verse, Edge, Florida St 16- Seattle (1000) - EmotionallyUnstable - Taliese Fuaga, OT Oregon St 17- Jacksonville (950) - LEBills - AD Mitchell, WR, Texas 18- Cincinnati (900) - Kirby Jackson - JC Latham, OL, Alabama 19- LA Rams (875) - MrEpsYtown *Traded* Bills - TSW Poll - Brian Thomas Jr, WR, LSU 20- Pittsburgh (850) - Big Blitz *Traded* Cardinals - GunnerBill - Quinyon Mitchell, DB, Toledo 21- Miami (800) - Alphadawg7 - Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia 22- Philadelphia (780) - stinky finger - Terrion Arnold, DB, Alabama 23- Minnesota (760) - H2o - Bo Nix, QB, Oregon 24- Dallas (740) - Might Rather - Jackson Powers-Johnson, C, Oregon 25- Green Bay (720) - Virgil - Cooper DeJean, DB, Iowa 26- Tampa Bay (700) - RyanC883 *Traded* Washington - mrags - Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas 27- Arizona (680) - GunnerBill *Traded* Pittsburgh - Big Blitz *Traded* Washington - mrags - Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia 28- Buffalo (660) - TSW Poll *Traded* Rams - MrEpsYtown - Chop Robinson, Edge, Penn St 29- Detroit (640) - frostbitmic - Troy Fautanu, OL, Washington 30- Baltimore (620) - Allen2Moulds - Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma 31- San Francisco (600) - QLBillsFan - Graham Barton, IOL, Duke 32- Kansas City (590) - section122 - Nate Wiggins, DB, Clemson Trades: The Broncos are trading 2024 #12, #76, #121, #136, #147, 2025 #1, 2025 #2 to the Commanders for 2024 #2 The Commanders are trading #12, #100, and #121 to the Bears for #9 The Bills are trading #28, #163, and 2025 2nd Rounder (From Vikings) to the Rams for #19 The Cardinals trade #27 and #71 to the Steelers for #20 and #119 The Commanders trade #40 and 2025 2nd for Bucs #26 The Steelers trade #27 and #119 to the Commanders for #36 and 2025 2nd

I see your Nate and raise you Kelso’s cutting edge double helmet! Loved that dude when I was a kid. 😂

Wide Right was simply an unfortunate result, albeit at the most important game. The games that Bills fans go wild about are those involving gross incompetence stupidity and managerial buffoonery. Like: 1) ‘13 Seconds’! The All Time level, never to be duplicated,of HC incompetence! Especially,that your HC during a TV TIME OUT, completely failed to impart one single, simple decision to his Kicker and during TWO OTHER TIME OUTS, failed to prepare to defend 2 people. 2) ‘12 Men’! The next All Time level of managerial incompetence,where during a TIME OUT, your HC can’t count to 12! 3) MCM… the complete failure of an entire mgt team to prepare how to defend a KO! 4) Cletus McKelvin, with the brain of a gerbil, deciding to return the KO out of the End Zone and fumbling. 5) Nate Clements,normally a sharp guy, going all me me me to put an INT on his resume and losing the game because of it. 6) TheJefferson reception- ditto. 7) Josh Allen fumbling… at the GL…same game! 8 Multiple ‘4th and Stupid’ Kicks inside the 40… during the Drought…NEVER getting the ball back.

That's actually not a bad idea. Something I could see cloud of dust innovator Nate Hackett implementing (if Aaron approves from the box)

It feels that way on overreaction Monday.........but it's really not that big of an indictment of the work of Dorsey personally, IMO. Dorsey had his shortcomings but ultimately the players on offense are the most to blame for keeping many games too close this season with volumes of inexcusable turnovers...........and the fact of the matter is that the defense and special teams have given up leads the offense gave them at the very end of game 4 times. Even if Nate Hackett himself were the OC of this team they should be no worse than 9-2 heading into the tough part of their schedule. Something had to be done to get this team out of their funk. A change was needed somewhere and it couldn't be McDermott and Smiley wasn't enough of a sacrifice to move the needle. The OC took the hit and it was a good decision by McDermott to make the move, IMO. It works out great that they have an experienced, energetic young play caller to take over. If the best option was Mike Shula I think Smiley would have hit the unemployment line Monday. I liked Joe Brady's game plan just fine......it was more conservative than a wicky-wacky Daboll game plan but it still had some gotcha plays that were very well timed. But the biggest difference was still that they didn't turn the ball over and keep the inferior team in the game while they were struggling over and over to move the ball in the red zone in the first half. Just keep chopping wood........gradually pull away........and then finish them. That's the formula. Ball luck helped Joe look smart as well. Diggs and Allen both had fumbles that were not recovered by the Jets(the Allen fumble was recovered by Spencer Brown but got picked up for a penalty as well).

C'mon Man, Past the doom and gloom Its time to wake up. Every National NFL contibutor ~ analysist knows that the BIlls are weak at Coaching and Management. Dorsey should be fired mid season. Do you recall what QC Nate Hackett did back in 2008-2009 with junk both at quarterback and overall offense? So not head coach material but was scooped up by Jets. So who is available now? Josh McDaniels? Not head coaching material but would be a step up on Dorsey who appears to have nothing in his tank. Nor between his ears. EXAMPLE: So Josh Allen has a throwng issue as a result of his shoulder. So on a 1st down play from his end someone calls for an unncessary deep bomb to hardy that misses by 5+ yards. So why was thay play even called with a QB who has a shoulder issue? To try it out? Are you stupid Dorsey? Then an INT next play as he underthrew it. Was the arm fatiqued? Doresy has nothing between the ears. Hes all doom and gloom. A trainwreck. The only game that he studied for aka ~ gameplan was the Dolphins. Our entire coaching staff despite the BS they spew for the TV cameras is lazy time at happy acres.

The Chiefs lost to the Colts last year. Got taken to OT by Malik Willis. The 49ers lost to the Nate Hackett Broncos and Falcons last year. Eagles lost to the Commanders and Saints. Yes, even the elite unbeatables get beat by bad teams.

Usually I try to put out a couple of mocks and now seems like a good time to post one with Free Agency slowing down and before the draft. I usually don't project trades but I did here with the Vikings moving up to 5 and the Chargers moving out. Enjoy and try to be nice haha. 1. Chicago Bears- Caleb Williams QB USC 2. Washington Commanders- Jayden Daniels QB LSU 3. New England Patriots- Drake Maye QB UNC 4. Arizona Cardinals- Marvin Harrison Jr WR OSU 5. Minnesota(from LAC)- J.J. McCarthy QB Michigan 6. New York Giants- Malik Nabers WR LSU 7. Tennessee Titans- Joe Alt OT Notre Dame 8. Atlanta Falcons- Jared Verse DE Florida State 9. Chicago Bears- Dallas Turner DE Alabama 10. New York Jets- Brock Bowers TE Georgia 11. Los Angeles Chargers(f/Minn)- Olu Fashanu OT Penn State 12. Denver Broncos- Bo Nix QB Oregon 13. Las Vegas Raiders- Terrion Arnold CB Alabama 14. New Orleans Saints- J.C. Latham OT Alabama 15. Indianapolis Colts- Rome Odunze WR Washington 16. Seattle Seahawks- Jackson Powers Johnson OC Oregon 17. Jacksonville Jaguars- Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU 18. Cincinnati Bengals- Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo 19. LA Rams- Nate Wiggins CB Clemson 20. Pittsburgh Steelers- Taliese Fuaga OT/OG Oregon State 21. Miami Dolphins- Byron Murphy DT Texas 22. Philadelphia Eagles- Cooper DeJean CB/S Iowa 23. LA Chargers(f/Minn)- Adonai Mitchell WR Texas 24. Dallas Cowboys- Graham Barton OT Duke 25. Green Bay Packers- Jerzahn Newton DT Illinois 26. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Laiatu Latu DE UCLA 27. Arizona Cardinals- Chop Robinson DE Penn State 28. Buffalo Bills- Xavier Worthy WR Texas - Alright for all you WR guys this one is for you. Worthy obviously is a high level speed prospect and even though he doesn't fit the specific need for a bigger X receiver or even possibly a natural replacement for Diggs, he is what the Bills are looking for as someone who can provide explosive plays in the pass game which is something that both Beane and McDermott have mentioned this offseason. Besides his world class speed, Worthy was a highly productive prospect. He will have to work on his blocking ability as well as his route running as well as his effort at times. 29. Detroit Lions- Zach Frazier OG/OC West Virginia 30. Baltimore Ravens- Amarius Mims OT Georgia 31. San Francisco 49ers- Troy Fautanu OT/OG Washington 32. Kansas City Chiefs- Kool Aid McKinstry CB Alabama 2nd Round 33. Carolina Panthers- Ladd McConkey WR Georgia 34. New England Patriots- Troy Franklin WR Oregon 35. Arizona Cardinals- Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma 36. Washington Commanders- Darius Robinson DE Missouri 37. LA Chargers- Ennis Rackstraw CB Missouri 38. Tennessee Titans- Roman Wilson WR Michigan 39. Carolina Panthers- Kamari Lassiter CB Georgia 40. Washington Commanders- Keon Coleman WR FSU 41. Green Bay Packers- Jordan Morgan OT Arizona 42. Houston Texans- T.J. Tampa CB Iowa State 43. Atlanta Falcons- Xavier Legette WR South Carolina 44. Las Vegas Raiders- Michael Penix Jr. QB Washington 45. New Orleans Saints- Braden Fiske DT FSU 46. Indianapolis Colts- Mike Sainristil CB/S Michigan 47. New York Giants- Tyler Nubin SAF Minnesota 48. Jacksonville Jaguars- Kris Jenkins DT Michigan 49. Cincinnati Bengals- T'Vondre Sweat DT Texas 50. Philadelphia Eagles- Chris Braswell DE Alabama 51. Pittsburgh Steelers- Ricky Pearsall WR Florida 52. LA Rams- Edgerrin Cooper LB Texas A&M 53. Philadelphia Eagles- Payton Wilson LB NC State 54. Cleveland Browns- Jonathon Brooks RB Texas 55. Miami Dolphins- Javon Bullard SAF Georgia 56. Dallas Cowboys- Trey Benson RB FSU 57. Tampa Bay Bucs- Cooper Beebe OG Kansas State 58. Green Bay Packers- Calen Bullock SAF USC 59. Houston Texans- Sedrick Van Pran OG/OC Georgia 60. Buffalo Bills- Kiran Amegadjie OT/OG Yale - Before you dogwalk me on this pick, this came down to Amegadjie and Adisa Isaac. In this iteration I do not see a DT prospect that is worth their salt at this pick with Fiske, Sweat, and Jenkins all gone. Amegadjie is a super raw prospect who obviously plays in the Ivy League. This might be a slight reach but the potential of Amegadjie to become a high level offensive tackle in this league is right up there with the top OT's in this draft. The Bills did meet with him formally at the combine and while tackle doesn't seem like a need at the moment, Spencer Brown is on his last year of his contract and Amedgadjie did start 10 games at Yale at Guard so he could possibly slot into the Left Guard Spot before taking over for Brown next year. He also possesses rare traits that you dont see in an offensive Tackle. Amegadjie is 6'5 323 pounds and possesses incredibly quick feet, 36 inch arm length and over an 85 inch wingspan. Just watch the kids highlights. 61. Detroit Lions- Max Melton CB Rutgers 62. Baltimore Ravens-Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB Clemson 63. San Francisco 49ers- Adisa Isaac DE Penn State 64. Kansas City Chiefs- Malachi Corley WR Western Kentucky

Hating on ken Dorsey when the ball is two yards in front of diggs and it's 14-7. SMH. Allen's been amazing and I love the checkdowns but the SB winning QBs hit that for a TD. Nate Geary talking about the really fine margins and he's totally right

Mac Jones is Nate Peterman if Nate Peterman was a unlikable sissified d-bag punk. They gave them a swirlie in a full bowl without the kindness of a courtesy flush.