How do we feel about Higgins playing most of the game concussed?

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

Just coming out of protocol Thursday and then 2 more.

It was bogus to me.

 

Also, a player has to protect himself.  He no doubt chose to stay in.  His future health is on him too.

 

Too Tee's credit he took himself out after the first one, pointing to his head. Perhaps at the point he is honestly trusting the medical doctors evaluating him and giving him the green light.

[Herc11]

48 minutes ago, transient said:

Actually Higgins, by his own admission, was evaluated multiple times for a concussion today and passed. Tua, on the other hand, didn't get evaluated until he got into the locker room at half time because the Dolphins staff was calling it a "back injury" and then basically ran interference for him on the independent consultant when they looked at the film.

 

I know, it was just a joke. However, it was pretty clear Higgins smacked his head multiple times, even grabbing at his head while getting up. By Tua treatment, I mean that the team kept sending him out there with a "passed" e v a l

Edited 19 hours ago by Herc11

[Walking Tall]

1 hour ago, Best Williams Available said:

Lotta blame being thrown Bengals way but as a player take yourself out for your own future. If the argument is his concussion occludes this line of thinking, ok, I don’t know if that happens.  But he’s pointing to his own head and knows what’s happening but too dumb to say live to fight another day? He has to shoulder some blame here.

There are just players, many players, that have to be saved from themselves. Higgins is one. Allen is another. They want to be on the field if at all possible.

 

[Mango]

3 hours ago, Best Williams Available said:

Absolutely, first line of defense should be the independent Drs then the training staff and team but when they’re all failing you, maybe think to yourself that they don’t have your best interest in mind. The team and league look like fools for this.

 

It's a semantics argument from the league. They need to stop answering "could they go back in?" And start answering "should they go in?"

 

It's a resounding no.

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

Too Tee's credit he took himself out after the first one, pointing to his head. Perhaps at the point he is honestly trusting the medical doctors evaluating him and giving him the green light.

yep, these dudes are wired differently.… I don’t fault Tee at all for wanting to come back in.  This is on the Bengals and the NFL.

[Playoffs?]

I haven’t read the whole thread, but is there any chance at all that he was NOT concussed today?  Yes he has concussion issues, and yes he hit his head… but it is possible to not get a concussion when hitting your head. Are we making assumptions?  
 

Don't kill me for this… just playing the other side..

[foreboding]

5 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

I suspect he played concussed, but we don't know that for sure do we? 

 

He had a big game and is a very good player.  

He hit his head. Held it in his hands, the announcers discussed it and he never even went into the tent.

[Koufax]

This was the worst farce travesty of the concussion protocol I have yet seen. Taking away any rooting interest this was proof that the protocol is not working in some pretty obvious situations. He was fresh off the protocol and suffered two additional concussive events in this game (let’s not be naive and pretend either are any less evident than the Jayden Daniel’s injury or that Drs know better than we do). Much like Tua staggering off the field, this sucked as a fan and as a human. Do better NFL.

[nedboy7]

3 likely concussions in couple weeks is terrible.  

[thewookie1]

4 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

Too Tee's credit he took himself out after the first one, pointing to his head. Perhaps at the point he is honestly trusting the medical doctors evaluating him and giving him the green light.

 

I'd be all with you here if not for Higgins' uncharacteristic behavior aside from his TD catch. He dropped two or three easy catches, for him, and looked dazed after at least one other head smack against the ground.

[ALLinALLEN]

3 hours ago, Playoffs? said:

I haven’t read the whole thread, but is there any chance at all that he was NOT concussed today?  Yes he has concussion issues, and yes he hit his head… but it is possible to not get a concussion when hitting your head. Are we making assumptions?  
 

Don't kill me for this… just playing the other side..

He got concussed in week 12 vs NE, missed last week, clocked a LP WED this week, and then cleared to play with 2 FP's TH./FRI. Then first game back, one of the very first hits he takes, he slams the back of his head on the ground, sits down hurt, and points to his head. He shouldnt have played another snap from there on out. Not to mention the multiple other hits he took this game where he pointed to his head. 

[UKBillFan]

6 hours ago, Playoffs? said:

I haven’t read the whole thread, but is there any chance at all that he was NOT concussed today?  Yes he has concussion issues, and yes he hit his head… but it is possible to not get a concussion when hitting your head. Are we making assumptions?  
 

Don't kill me for this… just playing the other side..

 

I've been reading the Bengals forum and the fans on there have been calling out the coaching team/medical staff for not taking Higgins out of the game for concussion too.

[BobbyC81]

Like the Tagioviola situation the league should investigate.  

[VW82]

15 hours ago, Simon said:

 

For the umpteenth time, Antonio Brown was a sociopathic, violent criminal when he was a teenager. He was thrown out of his own home because his father believed he was a legitimate threat to his mother. His father has been quoted as saying he's always been abusive and has been this way "since he was 12 years old".

His concussions are completely irrelevant to him being a complete sack of shlt as a human being.

 

 

Ok fine bad example. Take your pick of other well documented NFL cases of guys who developed CTE from multiple concussions and went through fairly extreme personality transformations as a result. I think you probably got my point. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

18 hours ago, Process said:

Can't really criticize the Bengals because we all watched Allen get knocked out vs Houston last year and finish the game.

 

Can we all just admit that the concussion protocol is a complete joke?

As a fan of football and as a human being in general, it was pure bull ****. I hope the NFL fines the hell out of that team and takes draft picks.  I was disgusted by them running him out there when he even stayed in the locker room for awhile after the 2nd half started.

[Jerome007]

16 hours ago, Lionel Hutz said:

Imagine how good the Bills offense would be if Allen had Chase and Higgins. Even a concussed Higgins would be our number 1 receiver. 

Imagine the Bengals with the Bills Oline. Or if the Bills had the Texans defense. Or if my aunt had balls.  

ALL the teams having glaring weaknesses. Salary cap, limited number of players available, 32 teams wanting to get better. Name me one perfect team in 2025?

 

Tua and now Higgins. Bills became unwillingly part of this controversy. Both cases are crazy suspect indeed and look bad.

As for Dawkins, he was laughing it up with the Texans players as soon as the game was over, as pointed out many times on this board. Yet he was out for a concussion after. When did it happen?

Edited 4 hours ago by Jerome007

[HappyDays]

This is just sad. Exposing him to potentially a lifetime of complications for what a 10% chance of making the playoffs?

[eball]

Players need to be protected from themselves.  This is on the NFL and the Bengals' medical staff, because it was obvious Higgins smacked his head hard on the turf at least twice, and the fact he was "evaluated" and allowed to return is a complete joke.

 

[eSJayDee]

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[dave mcbride]

16 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

This is just sad. Exposing him to potentially a lifetime of complications for what a 10% chance of making the playoffs?

I was shocked he was allowed to keep playing. I mean, given that he just came out of protocol and had TWO episodes in that game ... How does that even happen?