MikePJ76 Posted Monday at 12:09 PM Posted Monday at 12:09 PM Just now, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: Samuel, Moore and Palmer were all meh pickups when we signed them and nothing has changed that. I'd rather have Amari Cooper, he didn't do much at all but he at least had hands and would make at least 1 phenomonal catch every other game, those 3 do absolutely nothing for me. The season starts in 3 weeks. Neither Palmer or Moore have played a down of football yet with the bills. Quote
The Jokeman Posted Monday at 12:11 PM Posted Monday at 12:11 PM I agree Moore hasn't shown enough to warrant a roster spot, maybe we release him and readd him to the PS as an emergency call up. As Shavers has earned a spot for sure and might argue so has Shenault too. Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted Monday at 12:11 PM Posted Monday at 12:11 PM 1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said: The season starts in 3 weeks. Neither Palmer or Moore have played a down of football yet with the bills. Ok? Quote
MDH Posted Monday at 12:12 PM Posted Monday at 12:12 PM It’s hard to get a read on these things outside of the building. It’s possible Moore could be cut but here’s a quote from Joe Buscaglia’s Atlantic article about the joint practice on Friday. Quote In team drills, Allen connected with Joshua Palmer on three passes, Elijah Moore on three, Coleman on two, tight end Dalton Kincaid on two and Dawson Knox on two, while running backs Ray Davis and Ty Johnson had one each. The four receivers who lined up most with Allen throughout team drills were Coleman, Palmer, Moore and Tyrell Shavers. Allen’s rapport with Palmer, Coleman, Moore and Kincaid might be the most meaningful in McDermott’s decision. Allen completed all but three passes to that group during team drills, and one was a drop by Kincaid. I’m not sure how much Moore’s performance in pre-season game 2 without Allen will impact things. I do think that McD is getting frustrated with Samuel’s continued absence though. 2 1 Quote
twist_to_open Posted Monday at 12:12 PM Posted Monday at 12:12 PM Why didn't we just resign Hollins, who had chemistry with Josh and was productive? Quote
BananaB Posted Monday at 12:23 PM Posted Monday at 12:23 PM (edited) Moore ain’t getting cut. Might not look great but he’s gonna get some playing time. Two years ago most of this board had Shakir getting cut. They kept Shitfield and the midget around all season and Moore is way more proven then both those clowns. Edited Monday at 12:34 PM by BananaB 1 Quote
zow2 Posted Monday at 12:36 PM Posted Monday at 12:36 PM 5 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: Shavers is a lock. He’s earned his spot. Moore or Samuel will be cut. I agree on Shavers. It's his time. He's a tall target, and we have more than enough shorter quick guys. Quote
T master Posted Monday at 12:58 PM Posted Monday at 12:58 PM 6 hours ago, Special K said: I must admit that I thought Elijah Moore was a lock to make the roster when he was signed...now I am not so sure. Granted we have not seen him on the field with Josh Allen in a game, but I haven't seen anything from him in camp or in the games. I really thought he was going to make the most of this opportunity, but if Samuel is healthy, he has a legitimate chance of losing the final receiver spot to Shavers. Thoughts?? From anything I saw last night I would have to agree ! Given the hype when they brought him here and what he has put on the field I'd say he's gone and Shavers would be a better person to give a roster spot to . Quote
The Jokeman Posted Monday at 01:13 PM Posted Monday at 01:13 PM 49 minutes ago, BananaB said: Moore ain’t getting cut. Might not look great but he’s gonna get some playing time. Two years ago most of this board had Shakir getting cut. They kept Shitfield and the midget around all season and Moore is way more proven then both those clowns. Shakir was also like a 2nd year WR that was a former 5th Round pick, Moore's a veteran and former 2nd round pick. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted Monday at 01:17 PM Posted Monday at 01:17 PM i shut the game off pretty quickly when i saw who was lining up - was moore bad? With Shakir injured i would think Moore is the likely next man up to play those snaps - potentially even in the opening game. Samuel's been nursing a hamstring for apparently like 5 seasons, so I'm not sure how you rely upon him for much more than what you got a year ago. Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted Monday at 01:22 PM Posted Monday at 01:22 PM They may PUP Samuel to start the season, keep Moore for that stretch at least, and see how things develop. 2 Quote
oldmanfan Posted Monday at 01:22 PM Posted Monday at 01:22 PM Seems to me Shavers has more than earned the spot behind Shakir, Coleman, and Palmer. Moore will have to fight it out with guys like Hamler. I think they may wind up giving Samuel an injury settlement Quote
uticaclub Posted Monday at 01:22 PM Posted Monday at 01:22 PM 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: It was the one positive of the focus on DL in this draft. Hopefully it stops Beano throwing all our spare FA dollars there on mid range FAs year after year. It won’t 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted Monday at 01:26 PM Posted Monday at 01:26 PM Apparently, Moore was making plays during the joint practice. In general, we have no idea where guys stand because we didn’t get to see the more meaningful event that occurred in Chicago this week. 1 Quote
eball Posted Monday at 01:27 PM Posted Monday at 01:27 PM 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: Samuel, Moore and Palmer were all meh pickups when we signed them and nothing has changed that. I'd rather have Amari Cooper, he didn't do much at all but he at least had hands and would make at least 1 phenomonal catch every other game, those 3 do absolutely nothing for me. The only one of these three we’ve actually seen in regular season football games with Josh Allen is Samuel, so I don’t know how you can even begin to make such a statement. Amari Cooper is still a free agent. That should tell you everything. I believe Beane should try to trade Samuel after cuts. Palmer isn’t going anywhere and there’s no reason to believe he won’t be at least as good as he was with the Chargers. Moore is still a mystery, although dropping an easy dump-off last night doesn’t help his case. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted Monday at 01:32 PM Posted Monday at 01:32 PM 6 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: They all suck and Beane should be called out again for the garbage wr's he has given Allen, compare this with what other elite QB'S in this league have to work with Edited, I do like Shakir who i believe is a solid #2 or #3. The remaining guys are just not very good and Beane needs to do better for Allen. So you have decided Coleman and Palmer, before seeing them in a game this year, suck too. Got it. Quote
fergie's ire Posted Monday at 01:44 PM Posted Monday at 01:44 PM I think it would be smart to keep some young guys. Certainly Shavers has shown Moore and Sander and he also fits a type that would add diversity to the receiving corps. They could use a big guy with speed. Use Hamler to fill in the quick small slot guy spot. Several have pointed out that it doesn't make cap sense to cut Sanders, but why not put him on IR? Doesn't help financially to cut him anyway, just need to open up the roster spot. Give him one of the IR to return slots and that way he is also held in reserve if he is finally healthy and if the young guys don't work out. Oh...but we'd have to make sure he is injured at cut down day in order to put him on IR. Let me check...does cut down happen on a day that ends in "d-a-y"? Okay...we good. Quote
starrymessenger Posted Monday at 01:44 PM Posted Monday at 01:44 PM Don't know for sure but my guess is that Moore makes the roster. Shavers looks like he has earned his spot. Shavers would have no problem making many NFL rosters if there was more explosion to his game. His routes appear to have been solid though albeit generally against second and third tier defenders. Quote
YattaOkasan Posted Monday at 01:55 PM Posted Monday at 01:55 PM 2 hours ago, zow2 said: I could see him getting cut and someone like Hamler in his place. On another note, people sleep on how Josh lifts up everyone on offense. In preseason we are watching Elijah Moore with horrendous Mike White and subpar Trubisky. All these receivers will look better when Allen is throwing them the football. What? you have Hamler > Samuel? Thats insane. I have seen like nothing from Hamler. Coverage bust TD and couldnt drag feet to get in the end zone. This is after he got cur by his first team. I get Samuel underwhelmed but wow there is a big difference between those two. 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: Samuel, Moore and Palmer were all meh pickups when we signed them and nothing has changed that. I'd rather have Amari Cooper, he didn't do much at all but he at least had hands and would make at least 1 phenomonal catch every other game, those 3 do absolutely nothing for me. We had both last year for the playoffs and I preferred what Samuel did to Cooper. If its all about winning a super bowl then playoff stats are what its all about. Samuel had a much greater contribution than Cooper. Why is Cooper out of a job? Is he holding for a bigger contract? Quote
Mat68 Posted Monday at 02:01 PM Posted Monday at 02:01 PM 1 hour ago, MPL said: I refuse to judge Elijah Moore in a game where your 3rd QB and backup O-Line are playing the majority of the game. Also, I don't think Moore and Shavers are competing for the same roster spot. If Shavers makes the team, he's likely the 6th WR, or they cut Samuel... but I think carrying 6 WR is more likely even though they haven't typically done that. But Moore was included in this choice. If you’re playing with 2nd and 3rd strings you are considered as 2nd and 3rd string. Top 4 Coleman Shakir Palmer and Samuel. Moore has done nothing to leap frog Samuel. Imo top you dont need special teams ability in the top 4 after that you do. I have Shavers solid at wr 5. Question do you keep 6? Instead of Codrington Shenualt or Hamler for return duties. I dont want Codrington on the roster. I think Moore is firmly on the bubble. I havent seen anything that warrants him on the roster over Samuel. After that he doesnt offer anything to special teams to warrant a role. Looking at the financials cutting Samuel is pricey. Moore has not warranted that kind of investment. Quote
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