NeverOutNick Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) This is an epic WR class and as a Bills fan I'm super psyched to see if we get a few of these guys. I wanted to share the link for my last years rankings so you could see the success rate but the mods will have to help me find it because it doesn't come up on my end. When I scout WRs I look at traits that can make a guy a #1 WR first and foremost. This includes great hands (natural hands catcher), how do they create space (is it smooth or forced)?, how clutch are they in big moments?, do they have a lot of upside or are they going to plateau (athleticism comes into play here)? Not all receivers coming out can be the alpha and this class has a ton of potential #2 WRs that can move the chains. Lastly, I love slot guys but when a guy can only play slot it devalues their ceiling to me and I won't have them as high in my rankings. Last year I only did 20 or so WRs and I didn't do enough because I missed out on scouting Puka Nakua. I wanted to make sure not to do that this year so I went 30 deep. I also tiered my rankings to give you an idea on what I'm thinking. Hope you enjoy. I'll put my QB rankings at the bottom and if I can ever find last years WR rankings I'll post that link on here as well to keep me honest. Tier 1 – Can’t Miss, pick your flavor, would be the top WR in most drafts and we get THREE of them this year. 1. Marvin Harrison – Silky smooth. 6’4” WRs shouldn’t be able to run routes like he does. He’s so crisp and snaps his routes leaving most corners shook. He’s not the athlete Moss or Megatron were coming out but he’s so refined in his craft that he gets great separation. Makes the tough catches look easy. His timing on when he knows the ball is coming his way consistently makes corners look foolish. He has great body control on catches outside his base of support. He’s the safest choice for top WR in this class and I wouldn’t risk taking another WR over him. 2. Rome Odunze – My guy! I love this dude. He’s a dawg! I know Harrison and Nabers are better overall prospects, but Odunze just feels like Buffalo football. I know I should be impartial while doing these rankings but some guys I just want in a Bills uniform. He’s got great hands, maybe the best in the class at tracking the ball and adjusting to the catch, uncanny feel for the sidelines and is just so dang clutch in crucial moments. I feel like Penix just nods to Odunze before certain plays and he knows I’m going to you no matter what and the guy delivers for a clutch first down over and over. He’s not as explosive as Nabers and doesn’t get the separation on deep routes because of it but he’s just a technician and a hard worker play in and play out. If AD Mitchell was consistent like Rome is every play he’d be right here with him as a top 10 draft pick. Odunze reminds me of a bigger stronger St. Brown who can play outside. Just throw it his way and he’ll win the 50/50 ball most times. Welcome to Buffalo, meet Josh Allen (I wish). 3. Malik Nabers – Freak of nature! Explosive! Honestly depending on the day I could easily flip flop Nabers and Odunze between 2nd and 3rd overall because they’re both unbelievable talents. Nabers creates great separation because of how fast he is. It honestly doesn’t even look like he’s running full speed and he blows by people. Wish he would’ve did the combine because I bet he would’ve killed the process. If you like RAC this is the dude for that. I like his willingness to go across the middle and fight through traffic. Not as polished as MHJ or as clutch as Odunze but definitely the WR in this draft with the biggest upside. LSU just knows how to create WRs in their lab Tier 2 – Late first round - Potential #1 WRs that still need a little refinement. 4. AD Mitchell – Let’s for a second pretend he plays hard every single play. Outside of MHJ, Mitchell runs the best routes of the bigger WRs. Amazing in the red zone. He consistently makes corners look silly with his sick footwork. He’s fun to watch, gets very good separation as he runs so smoothly and doesn’t have to change speed throughout his route and overall he’s a natural hands catcher and doesn’t drop the ball. I honestly think if AD didn’t have concerns about his love for football and played hard every single play, he would be a top 10 pick in this draft class. I think he’s worth taking a risk on because he’s more talented than George Pickens, who had the same type of question marks coming out. 5. Brian Thomas Jr – Deep ball phenom. He may not have the whole route tree mastered (I didn’t see many slants or come back type routes) but if you want to take the top off the defense, this is the dude. Thomas is impressive in the redzone as well as he high points the catch. Great straight line speed and a physical, big target with room to develop. He’s the James Cook of WRs with his agility and speed but he has concentration issues that costs him some dropped balls. He also needs to secure the ball better or he will have fumbling issues in the NFL. I love his upside and with the right WR coach, the dude has top 10 NFL WR talent if he can develop the rest of the route tree. 6. Troy Franklin – I don’t care what anyone says, there is something about Troy Franklin that screams taller and faster and more explosive Stefon Diggs. Right now, he’s like Jameson Williams coming out but he’s a better route runner than Williams. He’s only 21 and not yet close to Diggs’ level of route running but you can see he has the hips, sharp steps and quickness at the line to get to that level with some coaching and work on his craft. He needs to get stronger to become more physical in the NFL. Troy is another one of the those QBs best friend types who just finds open spots when his QB is in trouble and a lot of times it’s like watching a GB game where he gets open deep with no one around. He’s not the best over the middle yet but for a team like buffalo who has Shakir, Samuel and Kincaid who can eat up the middle he would be a great compliment as an outside WR. Tier 3 – Special #2 options 7. Xavier Worthy – Keeps the defense honest. Obviously the fastest dude on any field but for a dude who weighs 170lb I want him to play more like Devonta Smith and I don’t see that type of play. He’s not built like Tyreek Hill, where you know he won’t get hurt going across the middle and can fight for those extra yards. He’s tough and wants to get the extra yards but any contact and he goes down immediately. You can’t coach his speed though and he gets a lot of separation because of it and for this reason he’s a great #2 WR. I think he’s “worthy” of a top 50 pick because of his speed alone and because of the fight he already displays he may eventually turn into a Tyreek Hill lite type player with improved route running and less concentration drops. Hopefully he hits the weight room and buffet line early and often though when he gets to his first NFL team. 8. Ladd McConkey – Dependable. I want to not like him because as a Bills fan I’m telling myself this dude is what we already have but even so he is just a good WR. Is he ever going to be a matchup nightmare on the outside like the top WRs in this class and win the contested catch battle, no because he’s not as physically gifted but he’s just so dependable and that is huge. One of the best WRs in this class at the intermediate routes, very good route runner that gets good RAC. He’s deceptive with how he moves in and out of routes and is very quick and twitchy. Best against zone coverage. He’s not going to be an alpha #1 WR, I mean he was second option on his own Georgia team behind the TE Bowers so he doesn’t have the skillset to be a top 15 pick in this class. He’s going to give 100% effort all the time and creates good separation with his burst speed. Because he’s already a dependable WR and would be a great #2 weapon day 1, he has to be ranked above WRs who have more potential than results at this point. Tier 4 – Potential #1 WRs with HUGE question marks that a lot of teams won’t take the risk on (I would because of the upside) 9. Jermaine Burton – I don’t know if he’s off of a lot teams boards due to character issues but the dude is a very good WR. You can see his anger when he plays during the play, making the play/catch but the problem is it keeps going after the play is over. If he can channel it all to just during the play then watch out because dude attacks the football. Very quick and twitchy. He pushes off too often and doesn’t need to because he gets good separation naturally. He plays faster than his 4.45 40 time on the deep routes. I really like him as a vertical threat and if he can develop more of a route tree and clean up whatever character issues he has then he could be a steal in this draft. 10. Tez Walker – Clearly the most athletic player on the field and that’s with Maye as his QB. He’s very raw but man does he have #1 WR potential. He hasn’t played a lot of football in the past 4 years because of injuries, covid, and transfer denials so he’ll need some good coaching because his route running is nowhere near the polish of MHJ. He’s a bully and will fight for the ball. He’s so fast and right now is a poor man’s Brian Thomas Jr. with being a one trick pony but the upside with the right coaching and work ethic again is intriguing enough I put him ahead of guys who are what they are as solid #2 or 3 WRs. I’m willing to rank a guy who has #1 WR upside higher because they could have an AJ Brown type NFL career where after they developed the route tree they already had the #1 WR frame and athleticism to match the raw skills they showed early on. Tez will be a round 2 draft pick that I would love the bills to take and early on just let him tear the top off coverages and block (he’s shown to be willing and able at this like Gabe) until he develops more to his game. Tier 5 – Good to Great #2 options that will go somewhere Day 2 of the draft (deepest part of the WR draft) 11. Ja’Lynn Polk – This is a dude you’d go to battle with. Polk doesn’t shy away from dangerous catches and he catches everything. Very impressed with his concentration. There’s not much to dislike about Polk but when watching Odunze and Polk on the same field you definitely see who is the #1 and who is the #2 (The huskies were nice enough to actually put that on their respective jerseys). Polk isn’t an athletic freak, he’s stiffer than Odunze when you watch them on the same field. He’s not going to wow you with his speed but he’d walk onto almost any NFL team and be a great robin to any superstar #1 WR. 12. Ricky Pearsall – Remember Brandon Stokley? This dude reminds me of one of Peyton’s favorite targets. He’s bigger faster and more athletic than Stokley but they play a lot alike. He has that no fear attitude and uses his body to win the catch when he can’t get separation. He does a great job of looking back during the route towards his QB which is an underrated quality when you have a QB that needs you to break off a route to get open. He’s a good route runner but his head moves at the line aren’t going to fool any NFL corners. He is good at feeling out where the holes are in coverage but I’m not sure he’s good enough to be a consistent outside threat and his RAC isn’t very impressive. He’s not going to wow anyone with his speed and even his agility is only average but like a lot of WRs in this class, he plays hard every play and is a good #2 WR and would excel as a slot WR in the NFL. 13. Keon Coleman – Great Hands! Very athletic for being so big. He reminds me of a more athletic version of Tee Higgins with better hands coming out of college. His route running is suspect at best as he pushes off to get separation too often. You can tell he’s having fun when he’s out there using his impressive agility but some of his entertaining, “look at me” plays are not necessary. His best trait that has him ranked higher than others are his hands. He’s a natural hands catcher, plucking the ball out of the air with ease. I don’t see him doing a lot of damage in the middle field yet because he’s not refined in his craft but as a big X he’s intriguing and I love his hands. Hopefully he gets the right WR coach to mold him into a more refined, nuance WR. 14. Xavier Legette – Physical not just as a player but a specimen. I get why people compare him to DK Metcalf because he looks imposing, has great body control and he’s deceptively fast. My question is for a dude who is fast why doesn’t he get separation? Why so many 50/50 jump balls. He can’t physically dominate NFL corners like he did this last year in college. He’s not a good route runner, he pushes off too much and it worries me that this was his only year of production in college. He fights for every yard and I love the toughness/no fear attitude every play. I have a feeling he’d be a great teammate and fan favorite but he’s not a #1 WR on any team. He’s a good 2nd or 3rd option on a team that has a superstar first option but I truly hope he’s not the guy for Buffalo as he doesn’t bring anything more to what Josh Allen needs. 15. Roman Wilson – Quick, decisive route runner with good hands and can win the contested catch battle as a little dude. He’s another fun one to watch and will be a really good slot WR in the NFL but can play outside if needed. He makes up for his height by being able to climb the ladder with timing those throws over his head. Natural hands catcher. He’s a decent vertical threat but makes his money across the middle. Don’t expect him to be Zay Flowers because even though he’s quick, he’s not that kind of athlete. He’s full effort all of the time and is one of those WRs you trust in clutch moments to make the catch. Not the greatest RAC guy but a dependable WR who will be in this league for a while. 16. Brenden Rice – Does a great job of finding the open windows for his QB. Caleb goes off script so often and Rice has to run multiple routes the same play until Caleb is ready to throw. Doesn’t have his dad’s hands as he sometimes gets sloppy and body catches or has concentration drops but he’s a bigger target than his dad with a nice catch radius. He has good body control and sense of the boundaries. I like his fight after contact. He’s not very fast but he still gets decent separation because he’s a good route runner and has good burst out the gate. Because our boy Josh goes off script I think Rice would be a good outside WR for us opposite the alpha we take round 1. I have a feeling he’ll succeed in the NFL and has room to grow. 17. Javon Baker – This dude is going to be a good #2 outside WR in the league. He flashes a lot of potential and I like his body control just hope some of those 1 foot in boundary catches can become 2 feet when he gets to the NFL. I like the way he runs routes but he needs to be more consistent but I think at the NFL level he’ll get the refining needed. He’s got that fight and physicality after the catch but can be reckless at times and has some bad drops. He makes a lot of impressive catches. He’s not the athlete that some of the top guys are but honestly as I’m writing this I feel like I’m writing the comp of his UCF alum, Gabe Davis, I mean he’s even an active blocker and is a good vertical threat for not being a speedster. Hopefully he cleans up the drop problem unlike his counterpart. If he cleaned up the drops he’d be in the top 15. Tier 6 – A slot of talent, early day 3 guys 18. Malachi Corley – RAC superstar. Still learning the WR postion but man is he fun to watch. He basically just got fed underneath with screens, hitches and crossing routes. Toughest dude I’ve seen at the WR position as he just does not like the feel of grass on his back. Hard to rank this guy because you’re basically projecting based on what you think and hope he can be. He has trouble tracking the ball in the air at this point which hurts him as a vertical threat. Is he amenable to pick up the intricacies of the WR position? Is he going to put in the work? If so I think he’s worth the risk because I get the deebo comparisons and I’m sure every team would love to have a deebo. He’s too good with the ball in his hands to pass on but you definitely need the right OC to get the most out of what he’s great at because who knows if he’ll ever be more than that. 19. Ainais Smith – Dude has video game like quickness and side to side agility. Best returner of all the WRs I’ve seen in this class. Moves with such reckless abandonment that I’m afraid he’s going to get hurt lol. Surprised by how much of a natural hands catcher he is. He’s another really good RAC artist. He adds so much value to a team with all that he can do initially as a returner, #3 or 4 WR with room to develop, runner/gadget player. Injury concerns could push him down draft boards. I really enjoy watching this kid play and think if he works on his route running he could be pretty special. 20. Malik Washington – He’s an average route runner with room to grow but he excels with the ball in his hands. Feeds off of contact and is very good RAC. He has some crisp moves in and out of breaks and is fun to watch. Tough kid who doesn’t waste time and tries to get every yard possible. He’s good at finding space especially in the red zone. I like his hand and even though he’s a short WR he is solid and looks like he will be able to handle NFL hits. Tier 7 – Best of the rest, late round 4-7 21. Johnny Wilson – Giant human being! I get the Plaxico Burress comparisons but he’s not as dominating as Plax. He’s good off the line because he’s strong with long arms to beat press coverage. Intriguing prospect but also James Hardy flash backs immediately came to mind. He’s like the opposite of his teammate, Coleman, as he’s a better route runner but his hands aren’t as clutch. You would think he could win the contested catch battle more, but I saw quite a few drops he should’ve caught with his size advantage. He runs a decent route tree and is a massive red zone target but even though he's a pretty smooth route runner he still can’t create much space and I think that’s a problem at the next level. Maybe I’m being too harsh but I want my 6’7” WR to have more of a killer instinct at the catch point and I just don’t see it often with Wilson. Plus he drops too many balls for me to rank him in the top 20. 22. Luke McCaffrey – There’s a lot to like about McCaffrey from the blood line to the position change from QB to WR, he is worth a flyer day 3 and I love how he puts his body on the line just like his dad used to in order to make the catch. He makes the difficult catches look routine. The competition level wasn’t the best so I wonder how he’ll do in the NFL but he has a lot of promise to be at the very least a solid #4 WR in spread formations. Very smart as he’s another guy that really understands the boundaries and gets the most out of every catch with the angles he takes with the ball in his hands. Good concentration and ball tracking ability but not a real vertical threat. He’s not as athletically gifted as many guys in this class but I don’t want to be the guy who passes on Luke as he just makes plays. 23. Jalen McMillan – Hard to fall in love with the #3 WR on a college football team that can’t win the contested catch battle but McMillan’s athleticism and speed stands out when you really focus on him. He gets good separation and even though he’s a slot guy, he’s a nice vertical threat who consistently keeps his eyes back on the QB in case he needs a safety valve. He’s not going to break a lot of tackles for RAC but that signature McMillan spin to get out of traffic is fun to watch. Honestly as a bills fan I’d love to just have the 3 WRs on Washington be our new starting 3 on top of keeping Shakir and Samuel lol. We’d be stacked! He doesn’t have the greatest hands with concentrations drops but is a tough dude even if he’s not a consistent RAC guy. I think he’ll thrive in the right system as primarily a slot who is a smooth route runner with vertical upside. 24. Jamari Thrash – He’s got good concentration and understands where he is on the field and near the boundaries. Seems like a cerebral player that understands the moment. I don’t see a great athlete and wasn’t impressed with him after contact as he’s not the strongest dude. He shows good burst and adjustment if he has space after the catch. He changes speeds throughout his routes which shows why he did pretty well vs zone to wait for the space to open up to accelerate. He’s a solid, fluid route runner that can win vertically but he doesn’t have many wow moments like the players ranked above him. 25. Jacob Cowing – Great short area burst. Poor man’s Tank Dell. Asked to do a lot of his heavy lifting pre snap with how quick and dependable he was as a gadget player. He pushes off too often to win on deep routes. He’s super shifty in and out of breaks. He looks fast but I didn’t see a lot of vertical routes and I wanted to see more. He was used a lot underneath but is a good route runner on intermediate routes. He’s a tough dude but not on the same level as Corley or Malik Washington. 26. Cornelius Johnson – Big possession WR with solid hands. He doesn’t have a lot of dawg in him after the catch and is not a RAC guy but he has a knack for getting the first down yardage. He’s a decent route runner and does good work on the sidelines with good awareness and concentration to stay in bounds for the catch. He doesn’t show anything special off the line or during the route to make him unique in creating space. He can make plays over the middle but wasn’t asked to do it a lot from what I’ve seen. He has good burst when he does get space but doesn’t always create a lot on his own. I think he can be a solid outside possession WR in the NFL as he’s really good at decelerating and coming back to the ball. He doesn’t pop or show any real special traits that make him a dominant every down player. A guy who I would’ve definitely taken over Justin Shorter though lol 27. Bub Means – Demonstrates good body control attacking the ball in the air and shielding off defenders. He’s deceptively fast with his long strides. He reminds me of Romeo Doubs how he finds open spots in the intermediate and deep areas of the field. He’s very athletic and has room to grow into a potential #2 WR and is worth the risk in the last couple rounds because of his rare athletic profile for his size. 28. Ryan Flournoy – Tough and resilient. Love the dudes story and even though it’s hard to judge against subpar competition he looked great against K-state and at the senior bowl. He’s a willing and actually a pretty good blocker. Hands catcher who has some good speed and even though I didn’t see the full route tree, I noticed him getting decent separation. Another guy I’d take over Shorter right now because he’s a gunner type who has way better hands and could develop as an outside threat in the NFL. He’ll probably go in the 6th to 7th round because he’s a risk but I like what I see. 29. Tahj Washington – Undersized slot WR. Great awareness, always creating space for his QB to find him. Another good RAC guy who accelerates with ease during the route and after the catch. Keeps his eyes on the QB during his routes and is a solid vertical threat that will come back for the ball when needed. He’s not fast but he’s shifty/twitchy with good burst off the line of scrimmage and plays hard every down. 30. Isaiah Williams – Another former QB turned WR who plays like he understands what his QB needs. He’s more quick than fast and isn’t a great vertical threat. He fights for yards after the catch, another RAC guy with a lot of athleticism that shows up when he has the ball in his hands. He’s got good hands and is a refined route runner. He looks pretty smooth in and out of breaks with above average body control and I wouldn’t bet against him being successful in the NFL. Below is the link to my QB rankings from earlier this draft season. I'll do my final mock draft later tonight or tomorrow and post it: NeverOutNicks First Round QB Rankings Edited April 25 by NeverOutNick Fixed the Brain lol 7 10 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) But everybody on this list sucks . Edited April 24 by HOUSE 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Needs to be longer and more detailed for me to consider reading it 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) Don’t agree with the placement of everyone here but pretty much all of it makes sense with your philosophy. Fun read! Edited April 24 by DCOrange 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said: This is an epic WR class and as a Bills fan I'm super psyched to see if we get a few of these guys. I wanted to share the link for my last years rankings so you could see the success rate but the mods will have to help me find it because it doesn't come up on my end. When I scout WRs I look at traits that can make a guy a #1 WR first and foremost. This includes great hands (natural hands catcher), how do they create space (is it smooth or forced)?, how clutch are they in big moments?, do they have a lot of upside or are they going to plateau (athleticism comes into play here)? Not all receivers coming out can be the alpha and this class has a ton of potential #2 WRs that can move the chains. Lastly, I love slot guys but when a guy can only play slot it devalues their ceiling to me and I won't have them as high in my rankings. Last year I only did 20 or so WRs and I didn't do enough because I missed out on scouting Puka Nakua. I wanted to make sure not to do that this year so I went 30 deep. I also tiered my rankings to give you an idea on what I'm thinking. Hope you enjoy. I'll put my QB rankings at the bottom and if I can ever find last years WR rankings I'll post that link on here as well to keep me honest. Tier 1 – Can’t Miss, pick your flavor, would be the top WR in most drafts and we get THREE of them this year. 1. Marvin Harrison – Silky smooth. 6’4” WRs shouldn’t be able to run routes like he does. He’s so crisp and snaps his routes leaving most corners shook. He’s not the athlete Moss or Megatron were coming out but he’s so refined in his craft that he gets great separation. Makes the tough catches look easy. His timing on when he shows the ball is coming his way consistently makes corners look foolish. He has great body control on catches outside his base of support. He’s the safest choice for top WR in this class and I wouldn’t risk taking another WR over him. 2. Rome Odunze – My guy! I love this dude. He’s a dawg! I know Harrison and Nabers are better overall prospects, but Odunze just feels like Buffalo football. I know I should be impartial while doing these rankings but some guys I just want in a Bills uniform. He’s got great hands, maybe the best in the class at tracking the ball and adjusting to the catch, uncanny feel for the sidelines and is just so dang clutch in crucial moments. I feel like Penix just nods to Odunze before certain plays and he knows I’m going to you no matter what and the guy delivers for a clutch first down over and over. He’s not as explosive as Nabers and doesn’t get the separation on deep routes because of it but he’s just a technician and a hard worker play in and play out. If AD Mitchell was consistent like Rome is every play he’d be right here with him as a top 10 draft pick. Odunze reminds me of a bigger stronger St. Brown who can play outside. Just throw it his way and he’ll win the 50/50 ball most times. Welcome to Buffalo, meet Josh Allen (I wish). 3. Malik Nabers – Freak of nature! Explosive! Honestly depending on the day I could easily flip flop Nabers and Odunze between 2nd and 3rd overall because they’re both unbelievable talents. Nabers creates great separation because of how fast he is. It honestly doesn’t even look like he’s running full speed and he blows by people. Wish he would’ve did the combine because I bet he would’ve killed the process. If you like RAC this is the dude for that. I like his willingness to go across the middle and fight through traffic. Not as polished as MHJ or as clutch as Odunze but definitely the WR in this draft with the biggest upside. LSU just knows how to create WRs in their lab Tier 2 – Late first round - Potential #1 WRs that still need a little refinement. 4. AD Mitchell – Let’s for a second pretend he plays hard every single play. Outside of MHJ, Mitchell runs the best routes of the bigger WRs. Amazing in the red zone. He consistently makes corners look silly with his sick footwork. He’s fun to watch, gets very good separation as he runs so smoothly and doesn’t have to change speed throughout his route and overall he’s a natural hands catcher and doesn’t drop the ball. I honestly think if AD didn’t have concerns about his love for football and played hard every single play, he would be a top 10 pick in this draft class. I think he’s worth taking a risk on because he’s more talented than George Pickens, who had the same type of question marks coming out. 5. Brain Thomas Jr – Deep ball phenom. He may not have the whole route tree mastered (I didn’t see many slants or come back type routes) but if you want to take the top off the defense, this is the dude. Thomas is impressive in the redzone as well as he high points the catch. Great straight line speed and a physical, big target with room to develop. He’s the James Cook of WRs with his agility and speed but he has concentration issues that costs him some dropped balls. He also needs to secure the ball better or he will have fumbling issues in the NFL. I love his upside and with the right WR coach, the dude has top 10 NFL WR talent if he can develop the rest of the route tree. 6. Troy Franklin – I don’t care what anyone says, there is something about Troy Franklin that screams taller and faster and more explosive Stefon Diggs. Right now, he’s like Jameson Williams coming out but he’s a better route runner than Williams. He’s only 21 and not yet close to Diggs’ level of route running but you can see he has the hips, sharp steps and quickness at the line to get to that level with some coaching and work on his craft. He needs to get stronger to become more physical in the NFL. Troy is another one of the those QBs best friend types who just finds open spots when his QB is in trouble and a lot of times it’s like watching a GB game where he gets open deep with no one around. He’s not the best over the middle yet but for a team like buffalo who has Shakir, Samuel and Kincaid who can eat up the middle he would be a great compliment as an outside WR. Tier 3 – Special #2 options 7. Xavier Worthy – Keeps the defense honest. Obviously the fastest dude on any field but for a dude who weighs 170lb I want him to play more like Devonta Smith and I don’t see that type of play. He’s not built like Tyreek Hill, where you know he won’t get hurt going across the middle and can fight for those extra yards. He’s tough and wants to get the extra yards but any contact and he goes down immediately. You can’t coach his speed though and he gets a lot of separation because of it and for this reason he’s a great #2 WR. I think he’s “worthy” of a top 50 pick because of his speed alone and because of the fight he already displays he may eventually turn into a Tyreek Hill lite type player with improved route running and less concentration drops. Hopefully he hits the weight room and buffet line early and often though when he gets to his first NFL team. 8. Ladd McConkey – Dependable. I want to not like him because as a Bills fan I’m telling myself this dude is what we already have but even so he is just a good WR. Is he ever going to be a matchup nightmare on the outside like the top WRs in this class and win the contested catch battle, no because he’s not as physically gifted but he’s just so dependable and that is huge. One of the best WRs in this class at the intermediate routes, very good route runner that gets good RAC. He’s deceptive with how he moves in and out of routes and is very quick and twitchy. Best against zone coverage. He’s not going to be an alpha #1 WR, I mean he was second option on his own Georgia team behind the TE Bowers so he doesn’t have the skillset to be a top 15 pick in this class. He’s going to give 100% effort all the time and creates good separation with his burst speed. Because he’s already a dependable WR and would be a great #2 weapon day 1, he has to be ranked above WRs who have more potential than results at this point. Tier 4 – Potential #1 WRs with HUGE question marks that a lot of teams won’t take the risk on (I would because of the upside) 9. Jermaine Burton – I don’t know if he’s off of a lot teams boards due to character issues but the dude is a very good WR. You can see his anger when he plays during the play, making the play/catch but the problem is it keeps going after the play is over. If he can channel it all to just during the play then watch out because dude attacks the football. Very quick and twitchy. He pushes off too often and doesn’t need to because he gets good separation naturally. He plays faster than his 4.45 40 time on the deep routes. I really like him as a vertical threat and if he can develop more of a route tree and clean up whatever character issues he has then he could be a steal in this draft. 10. Tez Walker – Clearly the most athletic player on the field and that’s with Maye as his QB. He’s very raw but man does he have #1 WR potential. He hasn’t played a lot of football in the past 4 years because of injuries, covid, and transfer denials so he’ll need some good coaching because his route running is nowhere near the polish of MHJ. He’s a bully and will fight for the ball. He’s so fast and right now is a poor man’s Brian Thomas Jr. with being a one trick pony but the upside with the right coaching and work ethic again is intriguing enough I put him ahead of guys who are what they are as solid #2 or 3 WRs. I’m willing to rank a guy who has #1 WR upside higher because they could have an AJ Brown type NFL career where after they developed the route tree they already had the #1 WR frame and athleticism to match the raw skills they showed early on. Tez will be a round 2 draft pick that I would love the bills to take and early on just let him tear the top off coverages and block (he’s shown to be willing and able at this like Gabe) until he develops more to his game. Tier 5 – Good to Great #2 options that will go somewhere Day 2 of the draft (deepest part of the WR draft) 11. Ja’Lynn Polk – This is a dude you’d go to battle with. Polk doesn’t shy away from dangerous catches and he catches everything. Very impressed with his concentration. There’s not much to dislike about Polk but when watching Odunze and Polk on the same field you definitely see who is the #1 and who is the #2 (The huskies were nice enough to actually put that on their respective jerseys). Polk isn’t an athletic freak, he’s stiffer than Odunze when you watch them on the same field. He’s not going to wow you with his speed but he’d walk onto almost any NFL team and be a great robin to any superstar #1 WR. 12. Ricky Pearsall – Remember Brandon Stokley? This dude reminds me of one of Peyton’s favorite targets. He’s bigger faster and more athletic than Stokley but they play a lot alike. He has that no fear attitude and uses his body to win the catch when he can’t get separation. He does a great job of looking back during the route towards his QB which is an underrated quality when you have a QB that needs you to break off a route to get open. He’s a good route runner but his head moves at the line aren’t going to fool any NFL corners. He is good at feeling out where the holes are in coverage but I’m not sure he’s good enough to be a consistent outside threat and his RAC isn’t very impressive. He’s not going to wow anyone with his speed and even his agility is only average but like a lot of WRs in this class, he plays hard every play and is a good #2 WR and would excel as a slot WR in the NFL. 13. Keon Coleman – Great Hands! Very athletic for being so big. He reminds me of a more athletic version of Tee Higgins with better hands coming out of college. His route running is suspect at best as he pushes off to get separation too often. You can tell he’s having fun when he’s out there using his impressive agility but some of his entertaining, “look at me” plays are not necessary. His best trait that has him ranked higher than others are his hands. He’s a natural hands catcher, plucking the ball out of the air with ease. I don’t see him doing a lot of damage in the middle field yet because he’s not refined in his craft but as a big X he’s intriguing and I love his hands. Hopefully he gets the right WR coach to mold him into a more refined, nuance WR. 14. Xavier Legette – Physical not just as a player but a specimen. I get why people compare him to DK Metcalf because he looks imposing, has great body control and he’s deceptively fast. My question is for a dude who is fast why doesn’t he get separation? Why so many 50/50 jump balls. He can’t physically dominate NFL corners like he did this last year in college. He’s not a good route runner, he pushes off too much and it worries me that this was his only year of production in college. He fights for every yard and I love the toughness/no fear attitude every play. I have a feeling he’d be a great teammate and fan favorite but he’s not a #1 WR on any team. He’s a good 2nd or 3rd option on a team that has a superstar first option but I truly hope he’s not the guy for Buffalo as he doesn’t bring anything more to what Josh Allen needs. 15. Roman Wilson – Quick, decisive route runner with good hands and can win the contested catch battle as a little dude. He’s another fun one to watch and will be a really good slot WR in the NFL but can play outside if needed. He makes up for his height by being able to climb the ladder with timing those throws over his head. Natural hands catcher. He’s a decent vertical threat but makes his money across the middle. Don’t expect him to be Zay Flowers because even though he’s quick, he’s not that kind of athlete. He’s full effort all of the time and is one of those WRs you trust in clutch moments to make the catch. Not the greatest RAC guy but a dependable WR who will be in this league for a while. 16. Brenden Rice – Does a great job of finding the open windows for his QB. Caleb goes off script so often and Rice has to run multiple routes the same play until Caleb is ready to throw. Doesn’t have his dad’s hands as he sometimes gets sloppy and body catches or has concentration drops but he’s a bigger target than his dad with a nice catch radius. He has good body control and sense of the boundaries. I like his fight after contact. He’s not very fast but he still gets decent separation because he’s a good route runner and has good burst out the gate. Because our boy Josh goes off script I think Rice would be a good outside WR for us opposite the alpha we take round 1. I have a feeling he’ll succeed in the NFL and has room to grow. 17. Javon Baker – This dude is going to be a good #2 outside WR in the league. He flashes a lot of potential and I like his body control just hope some of those 1 foot in boundary catches can become 2 feet when he gets to the NFL. I like the way he runs routes but he needs to be more consistent but I think at the NFL level he’ll get the refining needed. He’s got that fight and physicality after the catch but can be reckless at times and has some bad drops. He makes a lot of impressive catches. He’s not the athlete that some of the top guys are but honestly as I’m writing this I feel like I’m writing the comp of his UCF alum, Gabe Davis, I mean he’s even an active blocker and is a good vertical threat for not being a speedster. Hopefully he cleans up the drop problem unlike his counterpart. If he cleaned up the drops he’d be in the top 15. Tier 6 – A slot of talent, early day 3 guys 18. Malachi Corley – RAC superstar. Still learning the WR postion but man is he fun to watch. He basically just got fed underneath with screens, hitches and crossing routes. Toughest dude I’ve seen at the WR position as he just does not like the feel of grass on his back. Hard to rank this guy because you’re basically projecting based on what you think and hope he can be. He has trouble tracking the ball in the air at this point which hurts him as a vertical threat. Is he amenable to pick up the intricacies of the WR position? Is he going to put in the work? If so I think he’s worth the risk because I get the deebo comparisons and I’m sure every team would love to have a deebo. He’s too good with the ball in his hands to pass on but you definitely need the right OC to get the most out of what he’s great at because who knows if he’ll ever be more than that. 19. Ainais Smith – Dude has video game like quickness and side to side agility. Best returner of all the WRs I’ve seen in this class. Moves with such reckless abandonment that I’m afraid he’s going to get hurt lol. Surprised by how much of a natural hands catcher he is. He’s another really good RAC artist. He adds so much value to a team with all that he can do initially as a returner, #3 or 4 WR with room to develop, runner/gadget player. Injury concerns could push him down draft boards. I really enjoy watching this kid play and think if he works on his route running he could be pretty special. 20. Malik Washington – He’s an average route runner with room to grow but he excels with the ball in his hands. Feeds off of contact and is very good RAC. He has some crisp moves in and out of breaks and is fun to watch. Tough kid who doesn’t waste time and tries to get every yard possible. He’s good at finding space especially in the red zone. I like his hand and even though he’s a short WR he is solid and looks like he will be able to handle NFL hits. Tier 7 – Best of the rest, late round 4-7 21. Johnny Wilson – Giant human being! I get the Plaxico Burress comparisons but he’s not as dominating as Plax. He’s good off the line because he’s strong with long arms to beat press coverage. Intriguing prospect but also James Hardy flash backs immediately came to mind. He’s like the opposite of his teammate, Coleman, as he’s a better route runner but his hands aren’t as clutch. You would think he could win the contested catch battle more, but I saw quite a few drops he should’ve caught with his size advantage. He runs a decent route tree and is a massive red zone target but even though he's a pretty smooth route runner he still can’t create much space and I think that’s a problem at the next level. Maybe I’m being too harsh but I want my 6’7” WR to have more of a killer instinct at the catch point and I just don’t see it often with Wilson. Plus he drops too many balls for me to rank him in the top 20. 22. Luke McCaffrey – There’s a lot to like about McCaffrey from the blood line to the position change from QB to WR, he is worth a flyer day 3 and I love how he puts his body on the line just like his dad used to in order to make the catch. He makes the difficult catches look routine. The competition level wasn’t the best so I wonder how he’ll do in the NFL but he has a lot of promise to be at the very least a solid #4 WR in spread formations. Very smart as he’s another guy that really understands the boundaries and gets the most out of every catch with the angles he takes with the ball in his hands. Good concentration and ball tracking ability but not a real vertical threat. He’s not as athletically gifted as many guys in this class but I don’t want to be the guy who passes on Luke as he just makes plays. 23. Jalen McMillan – Hard to fall in love with the #3 WR on a college football team that can’t win the contested catch battle but McMillan’s athleticism and speed stands out when you really focus on him. He gets good separation and even though he’s a slot guy, he’s a nice vertical threat who consistently keeps his eyes back on the QB in case he needs a safety valve. He’s not going to break a lot of tackles for RAC but that signature McMillan spin to get out of traffic is fun to watch. Honestly as a bills fan I’d love to just have the 3 WRs on Washington be our new starting 3 on top of keeping Shakir and Samuel lol. We’d be stacked! He doesn’t have the greatest hands with concentrations drops but is a tough dude even if he’s not a consistent RAC guy. I think he’ll thrive in the right system as primarily a slot who is a smooth route runner with vertical upside. 24. Jamari Thrash – He’s got good concentration and understands where he is on the field and near the boundaries. Seems like a cerebral player that understands the moment. I don’t see a great athlete and wasn’t impressed with him after contact as he’s not the strongest dude. He shows good burst and adjustment if he has space after the catch. He changes speeds throughout his routes which shows why he did pretty well vs zone to wait for the space to open up to accelerate. He’s a solid, fluid route runner that can win vertically but he doesn’t have many wow moments like the players ranked above him. 25. Jacob Cowing – Great short area burst. Poor man’s Tank Dell. Asked to do a lot of his heavy lifting pre snap with how quick and dependable he was as a gadget player. He pushes off too often to win on deep routes. He’s super shifty in and out of breaks. He looks fast but I didn’t see a lot of vertical routes and I wanted to see more. He was used a lot underneath but is a good route runner on intermediate routes. He’s a tough dude but not on the same level as Corley or Malik Washington. 26. Cornelius Johnson – Big possession WR with solid hands. He doesn’t have a lot of dawg in him after the catch and is not a RAC guy but he has a knack for getting the first down yardage. He’s a decent route runner and does good work on the sidelines with good awareness and concentration to stay in bounds for the catch. He doesn’t show anything special off the line or during the route to make him unique in creating space. He can make plays over the middle but wasn’t asked to do it a lot from what I’ve seen. He has good burst when he does get space but doesn’t always create a lot on his own. I think he can be a solid outside possession WR in the NFL as he’s really good at decelerating and coming back to the ball. He doesn’t pop or show any real special traits that make him a dominant every down player. A guy who I would’ve definitely taken over Justin Shorter though lol 27. Bub Means – Demonstrates good body control attacking the ball in the air and shielding off defenders. He’s deceptively fast with his long strides. He reminds me of Romeo Doubs how he finds open spots in the intermediate and deep areas of the field. He’s very athletic and has room to grow into a potential #2 WR and is worth the risk in the last couple rounds because of his rare athletic profile for his size. 28. Ryan Flournoy – Tough and resilient. Love the dudes story and even though it’s hard to judge against subpar competition he looked great against K-state and at the senior bowl. He’s a willing and actually a pretty good blocker. Hands catcher who has some good speed and even though I didn’t see the full route tree, I noticed him getting decent separation. Another guy I’d take over Shorter right now because he’s a gunner type who has way better hands and could develop as an outside threat in the NFL. He’ll probably go in the 6th to 7th round because he’s a risk but I like what I see. 29. Tahj Washington – Undersized slot WR. Great awareness, always creating space for his QB to find him. Another good RAC guy who accelerates with ease during the route and after the catch. Keeps his eyes on the QB during his routes and is a solid vertical threat that will come back for the ball when needed. He’s not fast but he’s shifty/twitchy with good burst off the line of scrimmage and plays hard every down. 30. Isaiah Williams – Another former QB turned WR who plays like he understands what his QB needs. He’s more quick than fast and isn’t a great vertical threat. He fights for yards after the catch, another RAC guy with a lot of athleticism that shows up when he has the ball in his hands. He’s got good hands and is a refined route runner. He looks pretty smooth in and out of breaks with above average body control and I wouldn’t bet against him being successful in the NFL. Below is the link to my QB rankings from earlier this draft season. I'll do my final mock draft later tonight or tomorrow and post it: NeverOutNicks First Round QB Rankings Nice work putting time into scouting the class. I’m a Troy Franklin truther (my WR4) so your rankings got a good grade from me right there haha. I know you went 30 deep so as not to miss the next Puka, but your rankings don’t have that - why is he there? - type of surprise rank (definitely not criticizing). This is probably an easier question to answer after the draft when we know where a player will be playing, but if you had to take a swing on picking the next Puka who would it be? If I had to guess, it will be McMillan or Roman Wilson. Both have some untapped potential due to injuries and the offense they were in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Does anyone have injury concerns with Harrison? I don’t know his entire history but he seemed to be injured a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) Fantastic read/write up. I've watched a lot of Texas games and re studied videos of Worthy and Mitchell. I'd move Worthy to Mitchell's spot, and Mitchell at top of tier 4 (#1 talent but more risks). Worse case with Worthy, you get an excellent #2/complementary weapon. Agree he's not breaking alot of tackles, but he has the grit/toughness that he doesn't shy away. He played through injuries at Texas at a high level, he's hard working and dedicated to his craft. He gets the most separation, behind the 3 top players, by far. He'll be Zay Flowers as a rookie, without the attitude. Mitchell is also a great player, but his game makes me hesitant (at least Rd 1). Talent is there, not sure how dedicated he is/has the work ethic to be successful in the NFL. I like his size/speed/route running, but concerns above + I don't think he gets off jams/plays through contact as well as you'd expect for his size. Maybe he's the next Pickens, maybe he's a bust. He's the highest risk/reward at WR IMO. I'd also put Polk alot higher. He's easily going to be a solid #2 as a floor, his ceiling isn't as high as some, but he is a very safe pick. Edited April 24 by MasterStrategist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I’d do cartwheels if I could for anyone in tier 1. Would love any of the 3 in tier 2 and would be happy with a guy in tier 3. I absolutely love Thomas and Mitchell. I am intrigued by Franklin and Worthy and I think McConkey will be solid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Did not realize Legette has these concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 39 minutes ago, LEBills said: This is probably an easier question to answer after the draft when we know where a player will be playing, but if you had to take a swing on picking the next Puka who would it be? If I had to guess, it will be McMillan or Roman Wilson. Both have some untapped potential due to injuries and the offense they were in. I don’t think there is a guy who profiles like Puka but a few guys I have lower that I won’t be surprised if they have a Puka lite type impact early are McCaffrey and Rice because of the pedigree and there is something about that Means kid that I wonder how he’ll do with an actual NFL QB finally throwing him the ball. The mid round smaller slot guys I’m infatuated with are Ainais Smith and Malik Washington. I think both their games will translate to the NFL pretty quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, NeverOutNick said: This is an epic WR class and as a Bills fan I'm super psyched to see if we get a few of these guys. I wanted to share the link for my last years rankings so you could see the success rate but the mods will have to help me find it because it doesn't come up on my end. When I scout WRs I look at traits that can make a guy a #1 WR first and foremost. This includes great hands (natural hands catcher), how do they create space (is it smooth or forced)?, how clutch are they in big moments?, do they have a lot of upside or are they going to plateau (athleticism comes into play here)? Not all receivers coming out can be the alpha and this class has a ton of potential #2 WRs that can move the chains. Lastly, I love slot guys but when a guy can only play slot it devalues their ceiling to me and I won't have them as high in my rankings. Last year I only did 20 or so WRs and I didn't do enough because I missed out on scouting Puka Nakua. I wanted to make sure not to do that this year so I went 30 deep. I also tiered my rankings to give you an idea on what I'm thinking. Hope you enjoy. I'll put my QB rankings at the bottom and if I can ever find last years WR rankings I'll post that link on here as well to keep me honest. Tier 1 – Can’t Miss, pick your flavor, would be the top WR in most drafts and we get THREE of them this year. 1. Marvin Harrison – Silky smooth. 6’4” WRs shouldn’t be able to run routes like he does. He’s so crisp and snaps his routes leaving most corners shook. He’s not the athlete Moss or Megatron were coming out but he’s so refined in his craft that he gets great separation. Makes the tough catches look easy. His timing on when he shows the ball is coming his way consistently makes corners look foolish. He has great body control on catches outside his base of support. He’s the safest choice for top WR in this class and I wouldn’t risk taking another WR over him. 2. Rome Odunze – My guy! I love this dude. He’s a dawg! I know Harrison and Nabers are better overall prospects, but Odunze just feels like Buffalo football. I know I should be impartial while doing these rankings but some guys I just want in a Bills uniform. He’s got great hands, maybe the best in the class at tracking the ball and adjusting to the catch, uncanny feel for the sidelines and is just so dang clutch in crucial moments. I feel like Penix just nods to Odunze before certain plays and he knows I’m going to you no matter what and the guy delivers for a clutch first down over and over. He’s not as explosive as Nabers and doesn’t get the separation on deep routes because of it but he’s just a technician and a hard worker play in and play out. If AD Mitchell was consistent like Rome is every play he’d be right here with him as a top 10 draft pick. Odunze reminds me of a bigger stronger St. Brown who can play outside. Just throw it his way and he’ll win the 50/50 ball most times. Welcome to Buffalo, meet Josh Allen (I wish). 3. Malik Nabers – Freak of nature! Explosive! Honestly depending on the day I could easily flip flop Nabers and Odunze between 2nd and 3rd overall because they’re both unbelievable talents. Nabers creates great separation because of how fast he is. It honestly doesn’t even look like he’s running full speed and he blows by people. Wish he would’ve did the combine because I bet he would’ve killed the process. If you like RAC this is the dude for that. I like his willingness to go across the middle and fight through traffic. Not as polished as MHJ or as clutch as Odunze but definitely the WR in this draft with the biggest upside. LSU just knows how to create WRs in their lab Tier 2 – Late first round - Potential #1 WRs that still need a little refinement. 4. AD Mitchell – Let’s for a second pretend he plays hard every single play. Outside of MHJ, Mitchell runs the best routes of the bigger WRs. Amazing in the red zone. He consistently makes corners look silly with his sick footwork. He’s fun to watch, gets very good separation as he runs so smoothly and doesn’t have to change speed throughout his route and overall he’s a natural hands catcher and doesn’t drop the ball. I honestly think if AD didn’t have concerns about his love for football and played hard every single play, he would be a top 10 pick in this draft class. I think he’s worth taking a risk on because he’s more talented than George Pickens, who had the same type of question marks coming out. 5. Brain Thomas Jr – Deep ball phenom. He may not have the whole route tree mastered (I didn’t see many slants or come back type routes) but if you want to take the top off the defense, this is the dude. Thomas is impressive in the redzone as well as he high points the catch. Great straight line speed and a physical, big target with room to develop. He’s the James Cook of WRs with his agility and speed but he has concentration issues that costs him some dropped balls. He also needs to secure the ball better or he will have fumbling issues in the NFL. I love his upside and with the right WR coach, the dude has top 10 NFL WR talent if he can develop the rest of the route tree. 6. Troy Franklin – I don’t care what anyone says, there is something about Troy Franklin that screams taller and faster and more explosive Stefon Diggs. Right now, he’s like Jameson Williams coming out but he’s a better route runner than Williams. He’s only 21 and not yet close to Diggs’ level of route running but you can see he has the hips, sharp steps and quickness at the line to get to that level with some coaching and work on his craft. He needs to get stronger to become more physical in the NFL. Troy is another one of the those QBs best friend types who just finds open spots when his QB is in trouble and a lot of times it’s like watching a GB game where he gets open deep with no one around. He’s not the best over the middle yet but for a team like buffalo who has Shakir, Samuel and Kincaid who can eat up the middle he would be a great compliment as an outside WR. Tier 3 – Special #2 options 7. Xavier Worthy – Keeps the defense honest. Obviously the fastest dude on any field but for a dude who weighs 170lb I want him to play more like Devonta Smith and I don’t see that type of play. He’s not built like Tyreek Hill, where you know he won’t get hurt going across the middle and can fight for those extra yards. He’s tough and wants to get the extra yards but any contact and he goes down immediately. You can’t coach his speed though and he gets a lot of separation because of it and for this reason he’s a great #2 WR. I think he’s “worthy” of a top 50 pick because of his speed alone and because of the fight he already displays he may eventually turn into a Tyreek Hill lite type player with improved route running and less concentration drops. Hopefully he hits the weight room and buffet line early and often though when he gets to his first NFL team. 8. Ladd McConkey – Dependable. I want to not like him because as a Bills fan I’m telling myself this dude is what we already have but even so he is just a good WR. Is he ever going to be a matchup nightmare on the outside like the top WRs in this class and win the contested catch battle, no because he’s not as physically gifted but he’s just so dependable and that is huge. One of the best WRs in this class at the intermediate routes, very good route runner that gets good RAC. He’s deceptive with how he moves in and out of routes and is very quick and twitchy. Best against zone coverage. He’s not going to be an alpha #1 WR, I mean he was second option on his own Georgia team behind the TE Bowers so he doesn’t have the skillset to be a top 15 pick in this class. He’s going to give 100% effort all the time and creates good separation with his burst speed. Because he’s already a dependable WR and would be a great #2 weapon day 1, he has to be ranked above WRs who have more potential than results at this point. Tier 4 – Potential #1 WRs with HUGE question marks that a lot of teams won’t take the risk on (I would because of the upside) 9. Jermaine Burton – I don’t know if he’s off of a lot teams boards due to character issues but the dude is a very good WR. You can see his anger when he plays during the play, making the play/catch but the problem is it keeps going after the play is over. If he can channel it all to just during the play then watch out because dude attacks the football. Very quick and twitchy. He pushes off too often and doesn’t need to because he gets good separation naturally. He plays faster than his 4.45 40 time on the deep routes. I really like him as a vertical threat and if he can develop more of a route tree and clean up whatever character issues he has then he could be a steal in this draft. 10. Tez Walker – Clearly the most athletic player on the field and that’s with Maye as his QB. He’s very raw but man does he have #1 WR potential. He hasn’t played a lot of football in the past 4 years because of injuries, covid, and transfer denials so he’ll need some good coaching because his route running is nowhere near the polish of MHJ. He’s a bully and will fight for the ball. He’s so fast and right now is a poor man’s Brian Thomas Jr. with being a one trick pony but the upside with the right coaching and work ethic again is intriguing enough I put him ahead of guys who are what they are as solid #2 or 3 WRs. I’m willing to rank a guy who has #1 WR upside higher because they could have an AJ Brown type NFL career where after they developed the route tree they already had the #1 WR frame and athleticism to match the raw skills they showed early on. Tez will be a round 2 draft pick that I would love the bills to take and early on just let him tear the top off coverages and block (he’s shown to be willing and able at this like Gabe) until he develops more to his game. Tier 5 – Good to Great #2 options that will go somewhere Day 2 of the draft (deepest part of the WR draft) 11. Ja’Lynn Polk – This is a dude you’d go to battle with. Polk doesn’t shy away from dangerous catches and he catches everything. Very impressed with his concentration. There’s not much to dislike about Polk but when watching Odunze and Polk on the same field you definitely see who is the #1 and who is the #2 (The huskies were nice enough to actually put that on their respective jerseys). Polk isn’t an athletic freak, he’s stiffer than Odunze when you watch them on the same field. He’s not going to wow you with his speed but he’d walk onto almost any NFL team and be a great robin to any superstar #1 WR. 12. Ricky Pearsall – Remember Brandon Stokley? This dude reminds me of one of Peyton’s favorite targets. He’s bigger faster and more athletic than Stokley but they play a lot alike. He has that no fear attitude and uses his body to win the catch when he can’t get separation. He does a great job of looking back during the route towards his QB which is an underrated quality when you have a QB that needs you to break off a route to get open. He’s a good route runner but his head moves at the line aren’t going to fool any NFL corners. He is good at feeling out where the holes are in coverage but I’m not sure he’s good enough to be a consistent outside threat and his RAC isn’t very impressive. He’s not going to wow anyone with his speed and even his agility is only average but like a lot of WRs in this class, he plays hard every play and is a good #2 WR and would excel as a slot WR in the NFL. 13. Keon Coleman – Great Hands! Very athletic for being so big. He reminds me of a more athletic version of Tee Higgins with better hands coming out of college. His route running is suspect at best as he pushes off to get separation too often. You can tell he’s having fun when he’s out there using his impressive agility but some of his entertaining, “look at me” plays are not necessary. His best trait that has him ranked higher than others are his hands. He’s a natural hands catcher, plucking the ball out of the air with ease. I don’t see him doing a lot of damage in the middle field yet because he’s not refined in his craft but as a big X he’s intriguing and I love his hands. Hopefully he gets the right WR coach to mold him into a more refined, nuance WR. 14. Xavier Legette – Physical not just as a player but a specimen. I get why people compare him to DK Metcalf because he looks imposing, has great body control and he’s deceptively fast. My question is for a dude who is fast why doesn’t he get separation? Why so many 50/50 jump balls. He can’t physically dominate NFL corners like he did this last year in college. He’s not a good route runner, he pushes off too much and it worries me that this was his only year of production in college. He fights for every yard and I love the toughness/no fear attitude every play. I have a feeling he’d be a great teammate and fan favorite but he’s not a #1 WR on any team. He’s a good 2nd or 3rd option on a team that has a superstar first option but I truly hope he’s not the guy for Buffalo as he doesn’t bring anything more to what Josh Allen needs. 15. Roman Wilson – Quick, decisive route runner with good hands and can win the contested catch battle as a little dude. He’s another fun one to watch and will be a really good slot WR in the NFL but can play outside if needed. He makes up for his height by being able to climb the ladder with timing those throws over his head. Natural hands catcher. He’s a decent vertical threat but makes his money across the middle. Don’t expect him to be Zay Flowers because even though he’s quick, he’s not that kind of athlete. He’s full effort all of the time and is one of those WRs you trust in clutch moments to make the catch. Not the greatest RAC guy but a dependable WR who will be in this league for a while. 16. Brenden Rice – Does a great job of finding the open windows for his QB. Caleb goes off script so often and Rice has to run multiple routes the same play until Caleb is ready to throw. Doesn’t have his dad’s hands as he sometimes gets sloppy and body catches or has concentration drops but he’s a bigger target than his dad with a nice catch radius. He has good body control and sense of the boundaries. I like his fight after contact. He’s not very fast but he still gets decent separation because he’s a good route runner and has good burst out the gate. Because our boy Josh goes off script I think Rice would be a good outside WR for us opposite the alpha we take round 1. I have a feeling he’ll succeed in the NFL and has room to grow. 17. Javon Baker – This dude is going to be a good #2 outside WR in the league. He flashes a lot of potential and I like his body control just hope some of those 1 foot in boundary catches can become 2 feet when he gets to the NFL. I like the way he runs routes but he needs to be more consistent but I think at the NFL level he’ll get the refining needed. He’s got that fight and physicality after the catch but can be reckless at times and has some bad drops. He makes a lot of impressive catches. He’s not the athlete that some of the top guys are but honestly as I’m writing this I feel like I’m writing the comp of his UCF alum, Gabe Davis, I mean he’s even an active blocker and is a good vertical threat for not being a speedster. Hopefully he cleans up the drop problem unlike his counterpart. If he cleaned up the drops he’d be in the top 15. Tier 6 – A slot of talent, early day 3 guys 18. Malachi Corley – RAC superstar. Still learning the WR postion but man is he fun to watch. He basically just got fed underneath with screens, hitches and crossing routes. Toughest dude I’ve seen at the WR position as he just does not like the feel of grass on his back. Hard to rank this guy because you’re basically projecting based on what you think and hope he can be. He has trouble tracking the ball in the air at this point which hurts him as a vertical threat. Is he amenable to pick up the intricacies of the WR position? Is he going to put in the work? If so I think he’s worth the risk because I get the deebo comparisons and I’m sure every team would love to have a deebo. He’s too good with the ball in his hands to pass on but you definitely need the right OC to get the most out of what he’s great at because who knows if he’ll ever be more than that. 19. Ainais Smith – Dude has video game like quickness and side to side agility. Best returner of all the WRs I’ve seen in this class. Moves with such reckless abandonment that I’m afraid he’s going to get hurt lol. Surprised by how much of a natural hands catcher he is. He’s another really good RAC artist. He adds so much value to a team with all that he can do initially as a returner, #3 or 4 WR with room to develop, runner/gadget player. Injury concerns could push him down draft boards. I really enjoy watching this kid play and think if he works on his route running he could be pretty special. 20. Malik Washington – He’s an average route runner with room to grow but he excels with the ball in his hands. Feeds off of contact and is very good RAC. He has some crisp moves in and out of breaks and is fun to watch. Tough kid who doesn’t waste time and tries to get every yard possible. He’s good at finding space especially in the red zone. I like his hand and even though he’s a short WR he is solid and looks like he will be able to handle NFL hits. Tier 7 – Best of the rest, late round 4-7 21. Johnny Wilson – Giant human being! I get the Plaxico Burress comparisons but he’s not as dominating as Plax. He’s good off the line because he’s strong with long arms to beat press coverage. Intriguing prospect but also James Hardy flash backs immediately came to mind. He’s like the opposite of his teammate, Coleman, as he’s a better route runner but his hands aren’t as clutch. You would think he could win the contested catch battle more, but I saw quite a few drops he should’ve caught with his size advantage. He runs a decent route tree and is a massive red zone target but even though he's a pretty smooth route runner he still can’t create much space and I think that’s a problem at the next level. Maybe I’m being too harsh but I want my 6’7” WR to have more of a killer instinct at the catch point and I just don’t see it often with Wilson. Plus he drops too many balls for me to rank him in the top 20. 22. Luke McCaffrey – There’s a lot to like about McCaffrey from the blood line to the position change from QB to WR, he is worth a flyer day 3 and I love how he puts his body on the line just like his dad used to in order to make the catch. He makes the difficult catches look routine. The competition level wasn’t the best so I wonder how he’ll do in the NFL but he has a lot of promise to be at the very least a solid #4 WR in spread formations. Very smart as he’s another guy that really understands the boundaries and gets the most out of every catch with the angles he takes with the ball in his hands. Good concentration and ball tracking ability but not a real vertical threat. He’s not as athletically gifted as many guys in this class but I don’t want to be the guy who passes on Luke as he just makes plays. 23. Jalen McMillan – Hard to fall in love with the #3 WR on a college football team that can’t win the contested catch battle but McMillan’s athleticism and speed stands out when you really focus on him. He gets good separation and even though he’s a slot guy, he’s a nice vertical threat who consistently keeps his eyes back on the QB in case he needs a safety valve. He’s not going to break a lot of tackles for RAC but that signature McMillan spin to get out of traffic is fun to watch. Honestly as a bills fan I’d love to just have the 3 WRs on Washington be our new starting 3 on top of keeping Shakir and Samuel lol. We’d be stacked! He doesn’t have the greatest hands with concentrations drops but is a tough dude even if he’s not a consistent RAC guy. I think he’ll thrive in the right system as primarily a slot who is a smooth route runner with vertical upside. 24. Jamari Thrash – He’s got good concentration and understands where he is on the field and near the boundaries. Seems like a cerebral player that understands the moment. I don’t see a great athlete and wasn’t impressed with him after contact as he’s not the strongest dude. He shows good burst and adjustment if he has space after the catch. He changes speeds throughout his routes which shows why he did pretty well vs zone to wait for the space to open up to accelerate. He’s a solid, fluid route runner that can win vertically but he doesn’t have many wow moments like the players ranked above him. 25. Jacob Cowing – Great short area burst. Poor man’s Tank Dell. Asked to do a lot of his heavy lifting pre snap with how quick and dependable he was as a gadget player. He pushes off too often to win on deep routes. He’s super shifty in and out of breaks. He looks fast but I didn’t see a lot of vertical routes and I wanted to see more. He was used a lot underneath but is a good route runner on intermediate routes. He’s a tough dude but not on the same level as Corley or Malik Washington. 26. Cornelius Johnson – Big possession WR with solid hands. He doesn’t have a lot of dawg in him after the catch and is not a RAC guy but he has a knack for getting the first down yardage. He’s a decent route runner and does good work on the sidelines with good awareness and concentration to stay in bounds for the catch. He doesn’t show anything special off the line or during the route to make him unique in creating space. He can make plays over the middle but wasn’t asked to do it a lot from what I’ve seen. He has good burst when he does get space but doesn’t always create a lot on his own. I think he can be a solid outside possession WR in the NFL as he’s really good at decelerating and coming back to the ball. He doesn’t pop or show any real special traits that make him a dominant every down player. A guy who I would’ve definitely taken over Justin Shorter though lol 27. Bub Means – Demonstrates good body control attacking the ball in the air and shielding off defenders. He’s deceptively fast with his long strides. He reminds me of Romeo Doubs how he finds open spots in the intermediate and deep areas of the field. He’s very athletic and has room to grow into a potential #2 WR and is worth the risk in the last couple rounds because of his rare athletic profile for his size. 28. Ryan Flournoy – Tough and resilient. Love the dudes story and even though it’s hard to judge against subpar competition he looked great against K-state and at the senior bowl. He’s a willing and actually a pretty good blocker. Hands catcher who has some good speed and even though I didn’t see the full route tree, I noticed him getting decent separation. Another guy I’d take over Shorter right now because he’s a gunner type who has way better hands and could develop as an outside threat in the NFL. He’ll probably go in the 6th to 7th round because he’s a risk but I like what I see. 29. Tahj Washington – Undersized slot WR. Great awareness, always creating space for his QB to find him. Another good RAC guy who accelerates with ease during the route and after the catch. Keeps his eyes on the QB during his routes and is a solid vertical threat that will come back for the ball when needed. He’s not fast but he’s shifty/twitchy with good burst off the line of scrimmage and plays hard every down. 30. Isaiah Williams – Another former QB turned WR who plays like he understands what his QB needs. He’s more quick than fast and isn’t a great vertical threat. He fights for yards after the catch, another RAC guy with a lot of athleticism that shows up when he has the ball in his hands. He’s got good hands and is a refined route runner. He looks pretty smooth in and out of breaks with above average body control and I wouldn’t bet against him being successful in the NFL. Below is the link to my QB rankings from earlier this draft season. I'll do my final mock draft later tonight or tomorrow and post it: NeverOutNicks First Round QB Rankings Dang, man! This is great! Great job on this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, NeverOutNick said: 5. Brain Thomas Jr – Deep ball phenom. He may not have the whole route tree mastered (I didn’t see many slants or come back type routes) but if you want to take the top off the defense, this is the dude. Thomas is impressive in the redzone as well as he high points the catch. Great straight line speed and a physical, big target with room to develop. He’s the James Cook of WRs with his agility and speed but he has concentration issues that costs him some dropped balls. He also needs to secure the ball better or he will have fumbling issues in the NFL. I love his upside and with the right WR coach, the dude has top 10 NFL WR talent if he can develop the rest of the route tree. Anyone named Brain is the smart pick. Right @Einstein? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Where's last year's rankings and OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Kaenon said: Where's last year's rankings and OP That’s what I want to know! Did the mods delete it after a year? I thought this site kept this stuff longer than a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 8 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: That’s what I want to know! Did the mods delete it after a year? I thought this site kept this stuff longer than a year believe this is it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, LEBills said: believe this is it You’re the man! Thank you. I did well except on Rice but really who wouldn’t look good in KC (just kidding, kind of). Still wish we would’ve taken Michael Wilson and/or Jayden Reed. I remember liking them both as Buffalo guys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 12 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: You’re the man! Thank you. I did well except on Rice but really who wouldn’t look good in KC (just kidding, kind of). Still wish we would’ve taken Michael Wilson and/or Jayden Reed. I remember liking them both as Buffalo guys Give it another year. Some of the WRs we think busted last year will be better. Edited April 25 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 49 minutes ago, LEBills said: believe this is it See Puka Nucua’s name once in that thread, and its bottom of someone’s list. Even if we get one of the “names” early, can always strike gold with a later round flier too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Good read, thank you for the synopsis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 12 hours ago, nedboy7 said: Did not realize Legette has these concerns. He doesn't, really. His only concern is only having 1 year of production. Not sure why anyone is so down on him. He is great. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, MJS said: He doesn't, really. His only concern is only having 1 year of production. Not sure why anyone is so down on him. He is great. Ouside the top3 I feel he is the surest pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 14 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: See Puka Nucua’s name once in that thread, and its bottom of someone’s list. Even if we get one of the “names” early, can always strike gold with a later round flier too. Jalen Coker's my day 3 sleeper, hope we use a 6th on him if he's there and wouldn't hate a 5th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 This draft is absolutely loaded with wide receivers and I would consider trading away our 2025 2nd rounder we got from the Diggs Trade to get back into the 3rd round. My sleepers are: Javon Baker Ja’Lynn Polk Jamari Thrash They won't wow you with their measurables, but they get open and catch the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, nedboy7 said: Ouside the top3 I feel he is the surest pick. I think I like Brian Thomas just as much, if not more, but it's close for me. If we get either one I'll be very happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 Here’s my mock draft so I don’t lose it next year lol 1. Bears - QB Caleb Williams 2. Commanders - QB Jayden Daniels 3. TRADE! Giants - QB Drake Maye 4. Cardinals - WR Marvin Harrison Jr 5. TRADE! Vikings - QB Michael Penix Jr. 6. Patriots - QB JJ McCarthy 7. Titans - OT Joe Alt 8. TRADE! Jaguars - WR Malik Nabers 9. TRADE! Bills - WR Rome Odunze 10. Jets - TE Brock Bowers 11. Chargers - OT JC Latham 12. Broncos - QB Bo Nix 13. Raiders - OT Taliese Fuaga 14. Saints - Edge Dallas Turner 15. TRADE! Rams DT Byron Murphy II 16. Seahawks - DE Laiatu Latu 17. Falcons - DE Jared Verse 18. Bengals - WR Brian Thomas Jr 19. TRADE - Packers - Olu Fashanu 20. Steelers - WR Xavier Worthy 21. TRADE! Chiefs - WR AD Mitchell 22. Eagles - CB Terrion Arnold 23. Chargers - CB Quinyon Mitchell 24 Cowboys - OG Graham Barton 25. Packers - OT Amarius Mims 26. Bucs - OT Troy Fautana 27. Cardinals - DE Chop Robinson 28. Bears - OT Tyler Guyton 29. Lions - CB Cooper Dejean 30. Ravens - CB Nate Wiggins 31. 49ers - CB Kool-aid McKinstry 32. Dolphins - DT Jer’zhan Newton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 16 hours ago, NeverOutNick said: Here’s my mock draft so I don’t lose it next year lol 1. Bears - QB Caleb Williams 2. Commanders - QB Jayden Daniels 3. TRADE! Giants - QB Drake Maye 4. Cardinals - WR Marvin Harrison Jr 5. TRADE! Vikings - QB Michael Penix Jr. 6. Patriots - QB JJ McCarthy 7. Titans - OT Joe Alt 8. TRADE! Jaguars - WR Malik Nabers 9. TRADE! Bills - WR Rome Odunze 10. Jets - TE Brock Bowers 11. Chargers - OT JC Latham 12. Broncos - QB Bo Nix 13. Raiders - OT Taliese Fuaga 14. Saints - Edge Dallas Turner 15. TRADE! Rams DT Byron Murphy II 16. Seahawks - DE Laiatu Latu 17. Falcons - DE Jared Verse 18. Bengals - WR Brian Thomas Jr 19. TRADE - Packers - Olu Fashanu 20. Steelers - WR Xavier Worthy 21. TRADE! Chiefs - WR AD Mitchell 22. Eagles - CB Terrion Arnold 23. Chargers - CB Quinyon Mitchell 24 Cowboys - OG Graham Barton 25. Packers - OT Amarius Mims 26. Bucs - OT Troy Fautana 27. Cardinals - DE Chop Robinson 28. Bears - OT Tyler Guyton 29. Lions - CB Cooper Dejean 30. Ravens - CB Nate Wiggins 31. 49ers - CB Kool-aid McKinstry 32. Dolphins - DT Jer’zhan Newton 28 out of 32 not bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 On 4/25/2024 at 1:21 PM, MJS said: He doesn't, really. His only concern is only having 1 year of production. Not sure why anyone is so down on him. He is great. Yep. I'm sad he went to Carolina. But stoked he got into round 1. If they can get any sort of production out of Bryce Young he is going to be a stud receiver. 2 hours ago, NeverOutNick said: 28 out of 32 not bad Also 28. You got Nix I took out of my final version sadly but not only did you disparage my guy Legette in this thread you also missed my other guy Morgan out of your mock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 On 4/25/2024 at 10:48 AM, Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD said: This draft is absolutely loaded with wide receivers and I would consider trading away our 2025 2nd rounder we got from the Diggs Trade to get back into the 3rd round. My sleepers are: Javon Baker Ja’Lynn Polk Jamari Thrash They won't wow you with their measurables, but they get open and catch the ball. Love Polk! If we traded down and got him in the 40's while adding more picks it would be a great draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: . Also 28. You got Nix I took out of my final version sadly but not only did you disparage my guy Legette in this thread you also missed my other guy Morgan out of your mock. Feel like I’m going to be pegged a Legette hater when I’m not lol. I just don’t think he’s a #1 WR because he’s not a good separator but definitely didn’t think he’d go round 1. Morgan I did consider back of the first but honestly thought a couple more corners would go late. SF definitely needs some corner help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, NeverOutNick said: Feel like I’m going to be pegged a Legette hater when I’m not lol. I just don’t think he’s a #1 WR because he’s not a good separator but definitely didn’t think he’d go round 1. Morgan I did consider back of the first but honestly thought a couple more corners would go late. SF definitely needs some corner help I disagree on Legette's ability to separate. He separate plenty well enough. Agree SF need a corner. They might have taken one if Baltimore didn't nab Wiggins right in front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 (edited) I hit on 29 out of my top 30 WRs, only missing out on my #30 and honestly he'll probably do well in Detroit. I wrote a quick tier assessment below (undrelined and italicized) and bolded the team that drafted the WR. Some things I noticed were most of my top ranked WRs went to teams with offensive minded head coaches with young QBs and/or teams with franchise QBs getting them more weapons. Some of these teams went back to the well multiple times and didn't even need to BUT because they understood how great a WR draft this was they took the value when it fell to them. Tier 1 – Can’t Miss, pick your flavor, would be the top WR in most drafts and we get THREE of them this year. 1. Marvin Harrison – Arizona pick 4 2. Rome Odunze – Bears pick 9 3. Malik Nabers – Giants pick 6 We had no real chance to get these guys Tier 2 – Late first round - Potential #1 WRs that still need a little refinement 4. AD Mitchell – Colts pick 52 5. Brain Thomas Jr – Jaguars pick 23 6. Troy Franklin – Broncos pick 102 Apparently we didn’t like either Mitchell or Franklin. Could’ve easily taken Franklin over Carter in the 3rd and I would’ve said we had a very good draft but we will soon see if I or our FO was wrong on Franklin Tier 3 – Special #2 options 7. Xavier Worthy – Chiefs pick 28 (we basically gave him to the chiefs) 8. Ladd McConkey – Chargers pick 34 I get why we passed when we did with what kind of WR we needed but didn’t realize we weren’t going to try and get a deep threat at all in this draft rich with them Tier 4 – Potential #1 WRs with HUGE question marks that a lot of teams won’t take the risk on (I would because of the upside) 9. Jermaine Burton – Bengals pick 80 10. Tez Walker –Ravens pick 113 2 players with speed and upside we should’ve went after but the teams that got them understand that their franchise QBs need downfield weapons Tier 5 – Good to Great #2 options that will go somewhere Day 2 of the draft (deepest part of the WR draft) 11. Ja’Lynn Polk – Patriots pick 37 12. Ricky Pearsall – 49ers pick 31 13. Keon Coleman – Bills pick 33 14. Xavier Legette – Panthers pick 32 15. Roman Wilson – Steelers pick 84 16. Brenden Rice – Chargers pick 225 17. Javon Baker – Patriots pick 110 All solid #2 WRs like I said before. Very surprised Rice fell so far, maybe something will come out about him. Tier 6 – A slot of talent, early day 3 guys 18. Malachi Corley – Jets pick 65 19. Ainais Smith – Eagles pick 152 20. Malik Washington – Dolphins pick 184 Speed kills! Unless you’re buffalo then we just say nah thanks we “like what we’ve got at WR”. Tier 7 – Best of the rest, Round 5-7 21. Johnny Wilson – Eagles pick 185 22. Luke McCaffrey – Commanders pick 100 23. Jalen McMillan – Bucs pick 92 - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in 3rd 24. Jamari Thrash – Browns pick 156 25. Jacob Cowing – 49ers pick 135 26. Cornelius Johnson – Chargers pick 253 27. Bub Means – Saints pick 170 - Huge upside vertical threat could've had with one of our MULTIPLE 5th round picks 28. Ryan Flournoy – Cowboys pick 216 29. Tahj Washington – Dolphins pick 241 - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in the 7th 30. Isaiah Williams – Undrafted signed by Lions Last thing I'll state because I can't hide my disgust on how we handled this great opportunity to improve our team with so many missed chances after the plethora of picks Beane used for players that will sit in back up rolls (but hey they're good character guys so neato... I no longer trust Beane. I've given up on McD getting this team to the promised land and know it will only happen under him if Josh carries everyone on his back BUT I've always thought Beane will do his best to get the right players around Josh in spite of McD favoring his pathetic d year after year. This was an epic fail on his part. I don't care about his or anyone's ego. Who cares if Diggs said Josh can't win without a #1 WR. Who cares if you want to prove your lackluster picks in previous drafts are going to work out (Justin Shorter). What I care about is the Buffalo Bills winning a Super Bowl. What I care about is putting as much talent around the best player this franchise ever had to give him the best chance to succeed. And my final point is...Josh Allen is very intelligent. You keep giving him the scraps and expecting him to superman it year in and year out, he will leave. We won't have anyone else to blame but ourselves because he won't say anything. It's not his job to say what he wants. It's the owner and FO's job to make the right decisions and they are failing miserably since the 13 second melt down. Hopefully KJ Hamler works out as the deep threat. Coleman seems like a good kid and will be a fun Higgins type. Shakir and Samuel will do a good job in the middle and Kincaid will get better year two. I just hope it's enough. Maybe one day we'll over do it on the offensive side of the ball like we over do the defense year in and year out without success. Go Bills Edited April 28 by NeverOutNick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 I wanted the Bills to take Legette. Keon is intriguing, though. I like his style of play and I don't think his route running is as bad as you say it is. Then I wanted the Bills to take Tez Walker or Malik Washington. No dice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 18 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: I hit on 29 out of my top 30 WRs, only missing out on my #30 and honestly he'll probably do well in Detroit. I wrote a quick tier assessment below (undrelined and italicized) and bolded the team that drafted the WR. Some things I noticed were most of my top ranked WRs went to teams with offensive minded head coaches with young QBs and/or teams with franchise QBs getting them more weapons. Some of these teams went back to the well multiple times and didn't even need to BUT because they understood how great a WR draft this was they took the value when it fell to them. Tier 1 – Can’t Miss, pick your flavor, would be the top WR in most drafts and we get THREE of them this year. 1. Marvin Harrison – Arizona pick 4 2. Rome Odunze – Bears pick 9 3. Malik Nabers – Giants pick 6 We had no real chance to get these guys Tier 2 – Late first round - Potential #1 WRs that still need a little refinement 4. AD Mitchell – Colts pick 52 5. Brain Thomas Jr – Jaguars pick 23 6. Troy Franklin – Broncos pick 102 Apparently we didn’t like either Mitchell or Franklin. Could’ve easily taken Franklin over Carter in the 3rd and I would’ve said we had a very good draft but we will soon see if I or our FO was wrong on Franklin Tier 3 – Special #2 options 7. Xavier Worthy – Chiefs pick 28 (we basically gave him to the chiefs) 8. Ladd McConkey – Chargers pick 34 I get why we passed when we did with what kind of WR we needed but didn’t realize we weren’t going to try and get a deep threat at all in this draft rich with them Tier 4 – Potential #1 WRs with HUGE question marks that a lot of teams won’t take the risk on (I would because of the upside) 9. Jermaine Burton – Bengals pick 80 10. Tez Walker –Ravens pick 113 2 players with speed and upside we should’ve went after but the teams that got them understand that their franchise QBs need downfield weapons Tier 5 – Good to Great #2 options that will go somewhere Day 2 of the draft (deepest part of the WR draft) 11. Ja’Lynn Polk – Patriots pick 37 12. Ricky Pearsall – 49ers pick 31 13. Keon Coleman – Bills pick 33 14. Xavier Legette – Panthers pick 32 15. Roman Wilson – Steelers pick 84 16. Brenden Rice – Chargers pick 225 17. Javon Baker – Patriots pick 110 All solid #2 WRs like I said before. Very surprised Rice fell so far, maybe something will come out about him. Tier 6 – A slot of talent, early day 3 guys 18. Malachi Corley – Jets pick 65 19. Ainais Smith – Eagles pick 152 20. Malik Washington – Dolphins pick 184 Speed kills! Unless you’re buffalo then we just say nah thanks we “like what we’ve got at WR”. Tier 7 – Best of the rest, Round 5-7 21. Johnny Wilson – Eagles pick 185 22. Luke McCaffrey – Commanders pick 100 23. Jalen McMillan – Bucs pick 92 - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in 3rd 24. Jamari Thrash – Browns pick 156 25. Jacob Cowing – 49ers pick 135 26. Cornelius Johnson – Chargers pick 253 27. Bub Means – Saints pick 170 - Huge upside vertical threat could've had with one of our MULTIPLE 5th round picks 28. Ryan Flournoy – Cowboys pick 216 29. Tahj Washington – Dolphins pick 241 - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in the 7th 30. Isaiah Williams – Undrafted signed by Lions Last thing I'll state because I can't hide my disgust on how we handled this great opportunity to improve our team with so many missed chances after the plethora of picks Beane used for players that will sit in back up rolls (but hey they're good character guys so neato... I no longer trust Beane. I've given up on McD getting this team to the promised land and know it will only happen under him if Josh carries everyone on his back BUT I've always thought Beane will do his best to get the right players around Josh in spite of McD favoring his pathetic d year after year. This was an epic fail on his part. I don't care about his or anyone's ego. Who cares if Diggs said Josh can't win without a #1 WR. Who cares if you want to prove your lackluster picks in previous drafts are going to work out (Justin Shorter). What I care about is the Buffalo Bills winning a Super Bowl. What I care about is putting as much talent around the best player this franchise ever had to give him the best chance to succeed. And my final point is...Josh Allen is very intelligent. You keep giving him the scraps and expecting him to superman it year in and year out, he will leave. We won't have anyone else to blame but ourselves because he won't say anything. It's not his job to say what he wants. It's the owner and FO's job to make the right decisions and they are failing miserably since the 13 second melt down. Hopefully KJ Hamler works out as the deep threat. Coleman seems like a good kid and will be a fun Higgins type. Shakir and Samuel will do a good job in the middle and Kincaid will get better year two. I just hope it's enough. Maybe one day we'll over do it on the offensive side of the ball like we over do the defense year in and year out without success. Go Bills Well, I was trying to talk myself into feeling better about the draft, and now I'm mad again. Thanks, Nick. It still might work out, but I do think there is an arrogance there, and it is because there isn't really accountability. I hope Beane is lying about not bringing anyone in post 6/1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Well, I was trying to talk myself into feeling better about the draft, and now I'm mad again. Thanks, Nick. It still might work out, but I do think there is an arrogance there, and it is because there isn't really accountability. I hope Beane is lying about not bringing anyone in post 6/1. 100% agree and it’s eventually going to either get them both fired or Josh will not be re-signing after this contract. It’s sad because it’s ok to make mistakes in their business because they have a top 2 QB in the league. Just take care of him and he’ll take care of your jobs. Stop trying to win in spite of him. That’s not how it works, you win because of him and enjoy the free ride 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 17 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: I hit on 29 out of my top 30 WRs, only missing out on my #30 and honestly he'll probably do well in Detroit. I wrote a quick tier assessment below (undrelined and italicized) and bolded the team that drafted the WR. Some things I noticed were most of my top ranked WRs went to teams with offensive minded head coaches with young QBs and/or teams with franchise QBs getting them more weapons. Some of these teams went back to the well multiple times and didn't even need to BUT because they understood how great a WR draft this was they took the value when it fell to them. Tier 1 – Can’t Miss, pick your flavor, would be the top WR in most drafts and we get THREE of them this year. 1. Marvin Harrison – Arizona pick 4 2. Rome Odunze – Bears pick 9 3. Malik Nabers – Giants pick 6 We had no real chance to get these guys Tier 2 – Late first round - Potential #1 WRs that still need a little refinement 4. AD Mitchell – Colts pick 52 5. Brain Thomas Jr – Jaguars pick 23 6. Troy Franklin – Broncos pick 102 Apparently we didn’t like either Mitchell or Franklin. Could’ve easily taken Franklin over Carter in the 3rd and I would’ve said we had a very good draft but we will soon see if I or our FO was wrong on Franklin Tier 3 – Special #2 options 7. Xavier Worthy – Chiefs pick 28 (we basically gave him to the chiefs) 8. Ladd McConkey – Chargers pick 34 I get why we passed when we did with what kind of WR we needed but didn’t realize we weren’t going to try and get a deep threat at all in this draft rich with them Tier 4 – Potential #1 WRs with HUGE question marks that a lot of teams won’t take the risk on (I would because of the upside) 9. Jermaine Burton – Bengals pick 80 10. Tez Walker –Ravens pick 113 2 players with speed and upside we should’ve went after but the teams that got them understand that their franchise QBs need downfield weapons Tier 5 – Good to Great #2 options that will go somewhere Day 2 of the draft (deepest part of the WR draft) 11. Ja’Lynn Polk – Patriots pick 37 12. Ricky Pearsall – 49ers pick 31 13. Keon Coleman – Bills pick 33 14. Xavier Legette – Panthers pick 32 15. Roman Wilson – Steelers pick 84 16. Brenden Rice – Chargers pick 225 17. Javon Baker – Patriots pick 110 All solid #2 WRs like I said before. Very surprised Rice fell so far, maybe something will come out about him. Tier 6 – A slot of talent, early day 3 guys 18. Malachi Corley – Jets pick 65 19. Ainais Smith – Eagles pick 152 20. Malik Washington – Dolphins pick 184 Speed kills! Unless you’re buffalo then we just say nah thanks we “like what we’ve got at WR”. Tier 7 – Best of the rest, Round 5-7 21. Johnny Wilson – Eagles pick 185 22. Luke McCaffrey – Commanders pick 100 23. Jalen McMillan – Bucs pick 92 - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in 3rd 24. Jamari Thrash – Browns pick 156 25. Jacob Cowing – 49ers pick 135 26. Cornelius Johnson – Chargers pick 253 27. Bub Means – Saints pick 170 - Huge upside vertical threat could've had with one of our MULTIPLE 5th round picks 28. Ryan Flournoy – Cowboys pick 216 29. Tahj Washington – Dolphins pick 241 - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in the 7th 30. Isaiah Williams – Undrafted signed by Lions Last thing I'll state because I can't hide my disgust on how we handled this great opportunity to improve our team with so many missed chances after the plethora of picks Beane used for players that will sit in back up rolls (but hey they're good character guys so neato... I no longer trust Beane. I've given up on McD getting this team to the promised land and know it will only happen under him if Josh carries everyone on his back BUT I've always thought Beane will do his best to get the right players around Josh in spite of McD favoring his pathetic d year after year. This was an epic fail on his part. I don't care about his or anyone's ego. Who cares if Diggs said Josh can't win without a #1 WR. Who cares if you want to prove your lackluster picks in previous drafts are going to work out (Justin Shorter). What I care about is the Buffalo Bills winning a Super Bowl. What I care about is putting as much talent around the best player this franchise ever had to give him the best chance to succeed. And my final point is...Josh Allen is very intelligent. You keep giving him the scraps and expecting him to superman it year in and year out, he will leave. We won't have anyone else to blame but ourselves because he won't say anything. It's not his job to say what he wants. It's the owner and FO's job to make the right decisions and they are failing miserably since the 13 second melt down. Hopefully KJ Hamler works out as the deep threat. Coleman seems like a good kid and will be a fun Higgins type. Shakir and Samuel will do a good job in the middle and Kincaid will get better year two. I just hope it's enough. Maybe one day we'll over do it on the offensive side of the ball like we over do the defense year in and year out without success. Go Bills I mean no offense, but I wouldn't consider the players on your list simply being Drafted as being a "hit". I think most of us who did work on these guys could tell that the guys who were Drafted were going to be Drafted somewhere. I would count the "hits" as players being taken where you placed them. There's a disconnect between how you viewed a number of these prospects and how the league as a whole viewed them. A number of guys weren't Drafted near where you had them ranked - whether they were Drafted higher than you had them or lower than where you had them. Granted, teams have way more information than you and I do. Character, work ethic, and medical come into play just as much as the tape itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 8 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I mean no offense, but I wouldn't consider the players on your list simply being Drafted as being a "hit". I think most of us who did work on these guys could tell that the guys who were Drafted were going to be Drafted somewhere. I would count the "hits" as players being taken where you placed them. There's a disconnect between how you viewed a number of these prospects and how the league as a whole viewed them. A number of guys weren't Drafted near where you had them ranked - whether they were Drafted higher than you had them or lower than where you had them. Granted, teams have way more information than you and I do. Character, work ethic, and medical come into play just as much as the tape itself. No offense taken. I can only go off of film. Film showed there were a lot of really good WR prospects we passed on multiple times. Most years the list of potential WRs that can make a team better is much thinner. We went into the draft losing our #1 and #2 WR AND even if we had BOTH we would've needed a WR so leaving this loaded draft with only 1 WR, no matter if you agree with my assessments or not, is a fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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