zevo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said: Terrible return on this trade. How much of a cancer does a guy have to be behind the scenes for you to eat 31M cap hit and get rid of WR1. you really can't judge the return without knowing all the details and I dont think we ever will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Goin Breakdown said: So a second round pick next year to Huston will be a LATE second round pick. It's the Vikings pick isnt it 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: I really don’t understand how the finances of this actually worked. Basically they’re paying for a WR1 without actually having one. Which is why people thought they wouldn’t do it. But there are ways to have a WR1 next year on low cap hits. Thats why I was pushing to do it now so you can get a 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 The RD2 pick we're getting next year is Minnesota's pick, correct? So.. it could be top end of the second round next year. Have to believe next years RD1 is firmly in play this year as part of a trade up, whether that's into the top 8 or two get two guys in the next tier. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I really don’t understand how the finances of this actually worked. We'll have to see how all the numbers shake out in the long run. Texans could absolutely take on his bonus and most of his cap if they so choose. Most of the time teams dont, but it does happen. It's more a voluntary, sweeten the deal thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, eball said: Kudos to BBB for making a move that will have some blasting him but makes sense for the Bills, even THIS season...we have a real GM, folks. I disagree. I think he panicked. He had a diva WR he could no longer control and he took the best offer he could to unload him. Our cap is screwed and you can never rely on a rookie WR in their first year. This is bad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I believe this is a trade that helps both clubs. Houston has deep threats and by getting Diggs, and likely converting him to a slot to pair with Tank Dell - they now have tremendously gifted intermediate guys and an elite deep threat in Nico Collins. For Buffalo, they had an excess of guys who could run intermediate and underneath stuff with Shakir, both TEs and now Curtis Samuel. Diggs was the best of them, but the bills are better served with moving one of them and replacing with a true deep threat 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 17 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Nope 60 mil in dead cap for the coming season? It's now a major rebuild. Too late to can McD? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Question for you crazy draft mathematizers out there lol: how far up would pick 44 and pick 60 get you to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, BBFL said: Top 40? Texans aren’t bottoming out lol It's the Vikings pick. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) Just now, KOKBILLS said: I don't mind trading Diggs and I like the cap relief next year... I think they were just done dealing with him tbh... But the compensation is terrible and I don't care what anyone says... Not getting something in 2024 is a massive failure for Beane because this may very well be the best WR Draft in recent memory. Sure Beane can dig his way out of it. But come on... He could not even get them to throw in a 3rd this year? Houston has 42, 86, 123 and 127 this year! He could not get ONE of those picks in a WR heavy Draft? It's not great... You can now more confidently move a 2025 1st round pick as you now have minnesota and our own #2s. Not every team can absorb Diggs cap hits (or wants to), but every team picking in the top half of the first round will have interest in a 1st or 2nd round pick in 2025 in a move-down scenario. Edited April 3 by Bleeding Bills Blue 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, Chicken Boo said: Having a good feel for Beane, the plan is to move up and geab their guy. Brian Thomas is my best guess. OK, but move up with what? We gonna trade away next year's first in a draft that's chock full of WRs? We got a 6th this year, which is worthless for any such trade. The 2nd next year is hardly a golden carrot. The 5th next year is also worthless for a trade. So out of curiosity, what do you think we trade to move up? We have a 28th overall, a 60th overall, then again starting in the late 4th and day-3, which are generally useless for such a trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 The compensation is a complete joke. Beane has lost a few steps. Too much limelight has got to his head. Houston robbed us. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I really don’t understand how the finances of this actually worked. dead cap, is dead cap, how are they freeing up 27 mil in dead cap to make this happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: I don't mind trading Diggs and I like the cap relief next year... I think they were just done dealing with him tbh... But the compensation is terrible and I don't care what anyone says... Not getting something in 2024 is a massive failure for Beane because this may very well be the best WR Draft in recent memory. Sure Beane can dig his way out of it. But come on... He could not even get them to throw in a 3rd this year? Houston has 42, 86, 123 and 127 this year! He could not get ONE of those picks in a WR heavy Draft? It's not great... I’m assuming that second is getting used in a trade up package this year but you never know I really don’t think it’s that off value wise assuming we’re getting at least a second…the tyreek hill trade just distorted everyone’s expectations. If diggs was 5 years younger it’s a travesty Edited April 3 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 This is an awful trade, but it must be he was so cancerous that they couldn’t proceed with him. Stinks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: We'll have to see how all the numbers shake out in the long run. Texans could absolutely take on his bonus and most of his cap if they so choose. Most of the time teams dont, but it does happen. It's more a voluntary, sweeten the deal thing. What bonus? The bills already paid his signing bonus, and they paid his 23 roster bonus. He doesn’t have any further bonus money left that’s not been prorated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I’m assuming a trade for Aiuk or Higgins isn’t cap-feasible, right??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) I don’t like the move in general because we give up a hard working high end player. I do get the age thing. I haven’t seen the picks we received. I don’t love the cap cost. I don’t love rewarding Josh for laziness which may be the root cause of all of this. We’ll find that out together. All that said, Houston has Nico Collins and Tank Dell. I don’t really get it for them. Edited April 3 by 4merper4mer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, DanInUticaTampa said: cause all the receivers we have now are either mediocre or still being developed. And we don't have much resources to make sure we can replace him. We got no cap room, and there is no guarantee we will get good value at drafting someone at 28. we could be drafting the 6th best receiver at that point, and chances him him being as good as diggs isn't very high. how good was diggs last half of season and playoffs? would you rather ride that out and hope for the best or eat it now...get a decent pick and start the soft rebuild this year setting up the next run with Allen? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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